Re: Translator credits (to maintainers)

2008-07-22 Thread David Bolter
Tristan Van Berkom wrote: On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 3:09 PM, Jonh Wendell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, folks. This is just a warning about translator names in NEWS file: You should get the translator name from the Last Translator field in the .po file, not from po/Changelog. Sometimes the

Re: [pygtk] Re: Python 3.0 plans

2008-07-22 Thread Tom Cato Amundsen
Guido van Rossum warns agains breaking api while porting to python 3.0: http://www.artima.com/weblogs/viewpost.jsp?thread=227041 2007/8/29 Behdad Esfahbod [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, 2007-08-29 at 13:52 -0400, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: - Do things more Pythonesque. Looking at Pango bindings,

Re: Proposed external dep: PolicyKit

2008-07-22 Thread David Zeuthen
Hi, (adjusting Cc list) (Polite request: please avoid sending HTML mail) On Mon, 2008-07-21 at 22:34 -0500, Jason D. Clinton wrote: On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 1:47 PM, David Zeuthen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 2008-06-20 at 15:57 +0200, Murray Cumming wrote: Going off

Re: External Deps for GNOME 2.24 - shared-mime-info from 0.22 to 0.40

2008-07-22 Thread Matthias Clasen
Bastien just released shared-mime-info 0.50. It contains additions that make content type sniffing generally available (previously, it was hardcoded in nautilus). There is new api in GIO (g_content_type_guess_for_tree) that will make use of that data. I propose to bump the recommeded version to

Re: External Deps for GNOME 2.24 - shared-mime-info from 0.22 to 0.40

2008-07-22 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mardi 22 juillet 2008, à 11:27 -0400, Matthias Clasen a écrit : I propose to bump the recommeded version to 0.50. Sounds good to me. Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org

External Deps: Minimal Python dependency

2008-07-22 Thread Sebastian Pölsterl
Hi! As mentioned in [1] sqlite is a blessed external dependency now. I want to use sqlite for Deskbar-Applet, too. Because, Python 2.5 has a built-in sqlite module I suggest increasing the minimal version to 2.5 from currently 2.4.3 . Of course, Python 2.5 has more benefits [2]. [1]:

Re: External Deps for GNOME 2.24 - shared-mime-info from 0.22 to 0.40

2008-07-22 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 11:40 AM, Vincent Untz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Le mardi 22 juillet 2008, à 11:27 -0400, Matthias Clasen a écrit : I propose to bump the recommeded version to 0.50. Sounds good to me. I've updated the wiki. ___

Re: External Deps: Minimal Python dependency

2008-07-22 Thread Olav Vitters
On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 05:56:27PM +0200, Sebastian Pölsterl wrote: As mentioned in [1] sqlite is a blessed external dependency now. I want to use sqlite for Deskbar-Applet, too. Because, Python 2.5 has a built-in sqlite module I suggest increasing the minimal version to 2.5 from

Re: External Deps: Minimal Python dependency

2008-07-22 Thread Patryk Zawadzki
On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 6:01 PM, Olav Vitters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 05:56:27PM +0200, Sebastian Pölsterl wrote: As mentioned in [1] sqlite is a blessed external dependency now. I want to use sqlite for Deskbar-Applet, too. Because, Python 2.5 has a built-in sqlite

Re: External Deps: Minimal Python dependency

2008-07-22 Thread Sebastian Pölsterl
Olav Vitters schrieb: On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 05:56:27PM +0200, Sebastian Pölsterl wrote: As mentioned in [1] sqlite is a blessed external dependency now. I want to use sqlite for Deskbar-Applet, too. Because, Python 2.5 has a built-in sqlite module I suggest increasing the minimal version

Re: Proposed external dep: PolicyKit

2008-07-22 Thread Rob Taylor
Just as a quick note, Jason's problem is completly a debian unstable packaging issue, as far as I can tell. Jason, as I said to you earlier, talk to the debian HAL package maintainer. There is no PolicyKit or HAL problem here other than you failed to find documentation to help with your weird

Re: External Deps: Minimal Python dependency

2008-07-22 Thread Curtis Hovey
On Tue, 2008-07-22 at 18:01 +0200, Olav Vitters wrote: On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 05:56:27PM +0200, Sebastian Pölsterl wrote: As mentioned in [1] sqlite is a blessed external dependency now. I want to use sqlite for Deskbar-Applet, too. Because, Python 2.5 has a built-in sqlite module I

Re: External Deps: Minimal Python dependency

2008-07-22 Thread Alberto Ruiz
2008/7/22 Sebastian Pölsterl [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi! As mentioned in [1] sqlite is a blessed external dependency now. I want to use sqlite for Deskbar-Applet, too. Because, Python 2.5 has a built-in sqlite module I suggest increasing the minimal version to 2.5 from currently 2.4.3 . Of

Re: External Deps: Minimal Python dependency

2008-07-22 Thread Sebastian Pölsterl
Alberto Ruiz schrieb: 2008/7/22 Sebastian Pölsterl [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi! As mentioned in [1] sqlite is a blessed external dependency now. I want to use sqlite for Deskbar-Applet, too. Because, Python 2.5 has a built-in sqlite module I suggest increasing the minimal version to 2.5 from

Re: Problem with intltool 0.40.0?

2008-07-22 Thread David Zeuthen
On Thu, 2008-07-10 at 11:14 -0400, David Zeuthen wrote: On Tue, 2008-07-01 at 17:01 -0400, Colin Walters wrote: Options: o Rename intltool to intltool2, allow parallel install with intltool 1 o Add backwards compatibility support o Don't screw with minor build system things right now,

Re: External Deps: Minimal Python dependency

2008-07-22 Thread Damien Grassart
On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 11:01 AM, Olav Vitters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What distributions have Python 2.5 and what has changed since the last time this came up? I don't know what has changed but Arch, Fedora, Mandriva, openSUSE, Slackware, and Ubuntu currently use Python 2.5, while many

Re: External Deps: Minimal Python dependency

2008-07-22 Thread John Carr
2008/7/22 Damien Grassart [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 11:01 AM, Olav Vitters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What distributions have Python 2.5 and what has changed since the last time this came up? I don't know what has changed but Arch, Fedora, Mandriva, openSUSE, Slackware, and

Re: External Deps for GNOME 2.24 - shared-mime-info from 0.22 to 0.40

2008-07-22 Thread Frederic Peters
Matthias Clasen wrote: On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 11:40 AM, Vincent Untz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Le mardi 22 juillet 2008, à 11:27 -0400, Matthias Clasen a écrit : I propose to bump the recommeded version to 0.50. Sounds good to me. I've updated the wiki. I've updated the jhbuild

Re: Problem with intltool 0.40.0?

2008-07-22 Thread Michael Biebl
2008/7/22 David Zeuthen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, 2008-07-10 at 11:14 -0400, David Zeuthen wrote: On Tue, 2008-07-01 at 17:01 -0400, Colin Walters wrote: Options: o Rename intltool to intltool2, allow parallel install with intltool 1 o Add backwards compatibility support o Don't screw

Re: Problem with intltool 0.40.0?

2008-07-22 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 5:47 PM, Michael Biebl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/7/22 David Zeuthen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, 2008-07-10 at 11:14 -0400, David Zeuthen wrote: On Tue, 2008-07-01 at 17:01 -0400, Colin Walters wrote: Options: o Rename intltool to intltool2, allow parallel

Re: Problem with intltool 0.40.0?

2008-07-22 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mardi 22 juillet 2008, à 13:27 -0400, David Zeuthen a écrit : On Thu, 2008-07-10 at 11:14 -0400, David Zeuthen wrote: On Tue, 2008-07-01 at 17:01 -0400, Colin Walters wrote: Options: o Rename intltool to intltool2, allow parallel install with intltool 1 o Add backwards

Re: libcanberra as external dependency

2008-07-22 Thread Vincent Untz
Hi, Le mardi 15 juillet 2008, à 01:36 +0200, Lennart Poettering a écrit : Heja! I'd like to propose libcanberra as external dependency for GNOME 2.23.x. It's a sound event library implementing the XDG sound theming/naming specs. More info you find here:

Re: evolution-data-server now depends on sqlite 3.5

2008-07-22 Thread Vincent Untz
Le vendredi 18 juillet 2008, à 00:36 +1200, John Stowers a écrit : I'm a fan of increasing the Python version to 2.5 as I depend on a number of 2.5 only features in Conduit. I guess bumping the python external dep version is fodder for another discussion however. Yep, please start a new thread

Re: Proposed external dep: PolicyKit

2008-07-22 Thread Jason D. Clinton
On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 10:03 AM, David Zeuthen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So maybe you just haven't tried hard enough. Fuck you. ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list

Re: Proposed external dep: PolicyKit

2008-07-22 Thread David Zeuthen
On Tue, 2008-07-22 at 18:40 -0500, Jason D. Clinton wrote: Fuck you. I don't think so. David ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list

Re: Absolute paths to applications in .desktop files

2008-07-22 Thread Vincent Untz
Hi, Le mercredi 09 juillet 2008, à 23:28 +0200, Josselin Mouette a écrit : Hi, the topic was raised on debian-devel and I think we should make sure that we are not missing anything before someone starts a crusade about it, so I prefer asking here. Currently, none of the .desktop files

Re: External Deps: Minimal Python dependency

2008-07-22 Thread Loïc Minier
On Tue, Jul 22, 2008, John Carr wrote: Debian Lenny has a release goal of Make all packages support python2.5 as standard python version. Yes; the default python version in lenny is 2.5 since end of April. -- Loïc Minier ___ desktop-devel-list

Re: External Deps: Minimal Python dependency

2008-07-22 Thread Olav Vitters
On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 06:19:24PM +0200, Sebastian Pölsterl wrote: Olav Vitters schrieb: On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 05:56:27PM +0200, Sebastian Pölsterl wrote: As mentioned in [1] sqlite is a blessed external dependency now. I want to use sqlite for Deskbar-Applet, too. Because, Python 2.5 has

Re: Proposed external dep: PolicyKit

2008-07-22 Thread Michael Biebl
2008/7/22 Rob Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Rob, Just as a quick note, Jason's problem is completly a debian unstable packaging issue, as far as I can tell. Care to eloborate, why and what the actual problem actually is (especially regarding Debian)? Michael -- Why is it that all of the

Re: Proposed external dep: PolicyKit

2008-07-22 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mardi 22 juillet 2008, à 18:40 -0500, Jason D. Clinton a écrit : On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 10:03 AM, David Zeuthen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So maybe you just haven't tried hard enough. Fuck you. Come on. You know it's not going to help your cause to reply like this, don't you? Vincent

Re: External Deps: Minimal Python dependency

2008-07-22 Thread Andrew Cowie
On Tue, 2008-07-22 at 18:01 +0200, Olav Vitters wrote: What distributions have Python 2.5 It was a long time coming, but Gentoo recently stabilized dev-lang/python as at 2.5.2-r5 on all major architectures. 2.5 has been in ~arch (ie testing) for ever, of course. AfC Sydney signature.asc

Re: Proposed external dep: PolicyKit

2008-07-22 Thread Jason D. Clinton
On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 7:02 PM, Michael Biebl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/7/22 Rob Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Rob, Just as a quick note, Jason's problem is completly a debian unstable packaging issue, as far as I can tell. Care to eloborate, why and what the actual problem actually

Re: Problem with intltool 0.40.0?

2008-07-22 Thread David Zeuthen
On Wed, 2008-07-23 at 01:27 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote: Sorry, your mail was lost in the GUADEC black hole (at least for me). Yea, I probably chose the worst time to send it. Unfortunately, using intltool 0.40 for 2.24 would be a big pain too, since many modules already migrated for 2.23.4 a

Re: Proposed external dep: PolicyKit

2008-07-22 Thread Michael Biebl
2008/7/23 Jason D. Clinton [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 7:02 PM, Michael Biebl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/7/22 Rob Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Rob, Just as a quick note, Jason's problem is completly a debian unstable packaging issue, as far as I can tell. Care to

Re: Proposed external dep: PolicyKit

2008-07-22 Thread David Zeuthen
On Tue, 2008-07-22 at 19:11 -0500, Jason D. Clinton wrote: The issue is that there is no user documentation at all. Not in the distribution. Not in the GUI with a Help button. Not in stub README files. Nothing. ... Nothing? Did you even look at the links I sent in my last mail? Your

Re: Proposed external dep: PolicyKit

2008-07-22 Thread David Zeuthen
On Tue, 2008-07-22 at 19:24 -0500, Jason D. Clinton wrote: If that's your policy, then you need to patch /etc/dbus-1/system.d/hal.conf to NOT use PolicyKit in a package that doesn't have support for it. There's no way to specify in a D-Bus .conf that it uses PolicyKit or not. This

Re: Absolute paths to applications in .desktop files

2008-07-22 Thread Alexander Jones
Hi 2008/7/23 Vincent Untz [EMAIL PROTECTED]: This is more complex than that. If I copy a launcher from the applications menu to my panel or desktop and then run my session in jhbuild, I might want to use the jhbuilt application instead of the system application. If the user changes $PATH,

Re: Proposed external dep: PolicyKit

2008-07-22 Thread Michael Biebl
2008/7/23 Jason D. Clinton [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 7:20 PM, Michael Biebl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: /usr/share/PolicyKit/policy files in the 0.5.11 upstream distribution are not being installed by the Debian hal package. That's quite simple. The current hal package we

Re: Proposed external dep: PolicyKit

2008-07-22 Thread Jason D. Clinton
On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 8:09 PM, Michael Biebl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If that's your policy, then you need to patch /etc/dbus-1/system.d/hal.conf to NOT use PolicyKit in a package that doesn't have support for it. This is--AFAICT--an upstream bug in hal that this stanza is not removed

Re: Proposed external dep: PolicyKit

2008-07-22 Thread Jason D. Clinton
On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 8:27 PM, Jason D. Clinton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is the PK bits that David was discussion in his previous message that are in the Debian hal which appears to be a security problem, if nothing else: