Re: Suggestions for a software engineering class project?

2008-09-16 Thread Marshall Scorcio
Hey everybody, Thank you all very much for your suggestions and advice. I have been reading through the links you sent me and I will let you all know what project I actually end up working on. Marshall ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-deve

Re: [gdm-list] GDM version used for GNOME 2.24?

2008-09-16 Thread Brian Cameron
Ray: I think Jon is in Portland right now for the Plumbers conference, so I'll try to answer for him. I believe Brian wrote some code to port the dwell listeners over to the new GDM some time ago. It's not completely finished, but it's most of the way there. Note there are two "gesture list

Re: GSD should not housekeep the thumbnails

2008-09-16 Thread Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak
Stephane Delcroix wrote: Whatever the MAX_AGE, at the time you're passing the threshold, you're screwed. About providing a UI, we're not in favor of that. A decent solution could be to prompt the user with a UI like "the f-spot thumbs cache is taking 90% of the thumbnail allowed space. Grow that

Re: GSD should not housekeep the thumbnails

2008-09-16 Thread Ruben Vermeersch
On di, 2008-09-16 at 09:44 -0400, Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak wrote: > Stephane Delcroix wrote: > > Whatever the MAX_AGE, at the time you're passing the threshold, you're > > screwed. > > > > About providing a UI, we're not in favor of that. A decent solution > > could be to prompt the user with a UI

Re: Thumbnailer specification: Move, Delete, Copy hints (Was: Re: GSD should not housekeep the thumbnails)

2008-09-16 Thread Philip Van Hoof
For the people new to the discussion about the thumbnailer DBus spec, here's[2] a working prototype that will compile on a typical desktop. If you have Gdk and GStreamer, it'll already make thumbnails for all supported formats in GdkPixbuf and for mpeg videos. More formats, if supported by GStream

Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24?

2008-09-16 Thread Ray Strode
Hi, On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 6:39 PM, Vincent Untz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Le mercredi 10 septembre 2008, à 09:39 -0400, Willie Walker a écrit : >> Hi: >> >> I asked this earlier, but I might have missed the response. Have the >> accessibility issues been resolved with the new GDM? In partic

Re: GSD should not housekeep the thumbnails

2008-09-16 Thread Stephane Delcroix
> I don't think f-spot needs to abandon the whole thumbnail spec. That's a > bit dramatic. We'd prefer not. Whatever the way we handle the thumbs, inside or outside of the specification, it's gonna take a lot of space > > It's no big deal to modify the default MAX_AGE and MAX_SIZE settings to >

Re: GSD should not housekeep the thumbnails

2008-09-16 Thread Philip Van Hoof
On Tue, 2008-09-16 at 13:36 +0100, Rob Taylor wrote: > Patryk Zawadzki wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 2:30 PM, Rob Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> could also clean out thumbnails that haven't been *accessed* after a > >> certain time period, which should give better performance. > > > >

Thumbnailer specification: Move, Delete, Copy hints (Was: Re: GSD should not housekeep the thumbnails)

2008-09-16 Thread Philip Van Hoof
On Tue, 2008-09-16 at 13:30 +0100, Rob Taylor wrote: > Emmanuel Pacaud wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On mar, 2008-09-16 at 11:34 +0200, Stephane Delcroix wrote: > >> Hey guys, > >> The plugin does something like this: > >> - clean the thumbnails older than MAX_AGE (default to 60 days) > >> - clean the ol

Thumbnailer specification: Move, Delete, Copy hints (Was: Re: GSD should not housekeep the thumbnails)

2008-09-16 Thread Philip Van Hoof
(resend, as I was not subscribed on this mailing list) On Tue, 2008-09-16 at 13:30 +0100, Rob Taylor wrote: > Emmanuel Pacaud wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On mar, 2008-09-16 at 11:34 +0200, Stephane Delcroix wrote: > >> Hey guys, > >> The plugin does something like this: > >> - clean the thumbnails old

Re: GSD should not housekeep the thumbnails

2008-09-16 Thread Luis Villa
On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 8:59 AM, Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Right now .thumbnails grows without limit, which isn't good. The average > user is surprised to find a >100 MB thumbnail cache in a hidden directory. Mine is 800M, which is 10% of my entire /home partition. And

Re: GSD should not housekeep the thumbnails

2008-09-16 Thread Rob Taylor
Philip Van Hoof wrote: > On Tue, 2008-09-16 at 13:36 +0100, Rob Taylor wrote: >> Patryk Zawadzki wrote: >>> On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 2:30 PM, Rob Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: could also clean out thumbnails that haven't been *accessed* after a certain time period, which should give be

Re: GSD should not housekeep the thumbnails

2008-09-16 Thread Ruben Vermeersch
On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 01:30:30PM +0100, Rob Taylor wrote: > Emmanuel Pacaud wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On mar, 2008-09-16 at 11:34 +0200, Stephane Delcroix wrote: > >> Hey guys, > >> The plugin does something like this: > >> - clean the thumbnails older than MAX_AGE (default to 60 days) > >> - clean

Re: GSD should not housekeep the thumbnails

2008-09-16 Thread Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak
Stephane Delcroix wrote: As long as this plugin stays as is, we only have one choice available: shout "fuck you standards" and move our thumbs out of .thumbnails. But I think we can figure out an arrangement: 1) the MAX_SIZE should be set to 0 by default, so the cleaning is only done one the th

Re: GSD should not housekeep the thumbnails

2008-09-16 Thread Ruben Vermeersch
On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 01:34:17PM +0200, Matteo Settenvini wrote: > Afaik, other applications with similar problems do keep an ad-hoc cache > in ~/.cache/. > > For example, banshee does keep a ~/.cache/album-art/ directory. > > Since f-spot has peculiar needs, maybe it'll make sense to move its

Re: GSD should not housekeep the thumbnails

2008-09-16 Thread Rob Taylor
Patryk Zawadzki wrote: > On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 2:30 PM, Rob Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> could also clean out thumbnails that haven't been *accessed* after a >> certain time period, which should give better performance. > > How do you do that when 99% of desktop PCs use noatime precisely

Re: GSD should not housekeep the thumbnails

2008-09-16 Thread Patryk Zawadzki
On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 2:30 PM, Rob Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > could also clean out thumbnails that haven't been *accessed* after a > certain time period, which should give better performance. How do you do that when 99% of desktop PCs use noatime precisely for that - perfomance? ;) --

Re: GSD should not housekeep the thumbnails

2008-09-16 Thread Rob Taylor
Emmanuel Pacaud wrote: > Hi, > > On mar, 2008-09-16 at 11:34 +0200, Stephane Delcroix wrote: >> Hey guys, >> The plugin does something like this: >> - clean the thumbnails older than MAX_AGE (default to 60 days) >> - clean the oldest thumbnails until the cache size is under MAX_SIZE >> (default to

Re: GSD should not housekeep the thumbnails

2008-09-16 Thread Emmanuel Pacaud
Hi, On mar, 2008-09-16 at 11:34 +0200, Stephane Delcroix wrote: > Hey guys, > The plugin does something like this: > - clean the thumbnails older than MAX_AGE (default to 60 days) > - clean the oldest thumbnails until the cache size is under MAX_SIZE > (default to 64MB) I don't get why it work li

Re: GSD should not housekeep the thumbnails

2008-09-16 Thread Claudio Saavedra
On Tue, 2008-09-16 at 13:34 +0200, Matteo Settenvini wrote: > Since f-spot has peculiar needs, maybe it'll make sense to move its > thumbnail cache somewhere around there. There's nothing that peculiar with f-spot there. It's just the defaults in g-s-d that are not very sane and the house keeping

Re: GSD should not housekeep the thumbnails

2008-09-16 Thread Matteo Settenvini
Afaik, other applications with similar problems do keep an ad-hoc cache in ~/.cache/. For example, banshee does keep a ~/.cache/album-art/ directory. Since f-spot has peculiar needs, maybe it'll make sense to move its thumbnail cache somewhere around there. Cheers, Matteo On mar, 2008-09-16 at

GSD should not housekeep the thumbnails

2008-09-16 Thread Stephane Delcroix
Hey guys, I'll try not to rant and stay constructive... Since 2.23.1, gnome-settings-daemon contains a housekeeping plugin that clean the .thumbnails. Even if it looks fair, it really makes the F-spot usage awful to the point it's basically unusable. The plugin does something like this: - clean