Re: quo vadis, docs

2009-02-10 Thread Frederic Peters
Natan Yellin wrote: > I gave a talk at the Boston Summit about problems with the developer > website. Even though most of the issues have been fixed, the slides are > still relevant to other parts of gnome.org. > > http://live.gnome.org/ProblemsWithBeginnerDocumentation Good; could you report is

Re: quo vadis, docs

2009-02-10 Thread Natan Yellin
2009/2/9 Matteo Settenvini > On lun, 2009-02-09 at 11:00 -0600, Shaun McCance wrote: > > > > We do get volunteers on a semi-regular basis, but we inevitably > > lose them. It would be useful to identify why we lose them and > > fix those problems. I'll readily admit that I'm partially at > > fa

Re: quo vadis, docs

2009-02-10 Thread Shaun McCance
On Tue, 2009-02-10 at 16:10 +0100, Murray Cumming wrote: > On Tue, 2009-02-10 at 13:44 +, Alberto Ruiz wrote: > > not even clear in the GDP documentation how to generate a damn > > thing from the .xml file. gnome-doc-tool html foo.xml OK, our documentation in general is outdated, and that's n

Re: quo vadis, docs

2009-02-10 Thread Shaun McCance
On Tue, 2009-02-10 at 16:22 +0900, Davyd Madeley wrote: > On Mon, 2009-02-09 at 21:37 +, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: > > > More good news: That's also often unnecessary. A description of a > > feature in checkbox-by-checkbox detail is just as boring to read as it > > is to write. Instead, thi

Re: quo vadis, docs

2009-02-10 Thread Murray Cumming
On Tue, 2009-02-10 at 13:44 +, Alberto Ruiz wrote: > not even clear in the GDP documentation how to generate a damn > thing from the .xml file. You don't need to generate anything. yelp renders DocBook XML files directly, though I only manage to do that by dragging and dropping from nautilus t

Re: New Desktop Testing team

2009-02-10 Thread Luis Villa
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 9:09 AM, API wrote: > From: Luis Villa > >> On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 4:14 AM, Ara Pulido wrote: >> > Hello, >> > >> > We are proud to announce that a new GNOME team has been created, focused on >> > desktop testing automation. >> > If you have ever wondered how could you t

Re: New Desktop Testing team

2009-02-10 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mardi 10 février 2009, à 15:13 +0100, Ara Pulido a écrit : > It was announced in the gnome-announce-list. For future reference: announcements like this are 100% appropriate for devel-announce-list too ;-) Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. __

Re: New Desktop Testing team

2009-02-10 Thread Ara Pulido
It was announced in the gnome-announce-list. You can see the archive at http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-announce-list/2009-February/msg00036.html Cheers, Ara. API wrote: From: Luis Villa On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 4:14 AM, Ara Pulido wrote: Hello, We are proud to announce that a new

Re: New Desktop Testing team

2009-02-10 Thread API
From: Luis Villa > On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 4:14 AM, Ara Pulido wrote: > > Hello, > > > > We are proud to announce that a new GNOME team has been created, focused on > > desktop testing automation. > > If you have ever wondered how could you test your application writing > > scripts that mimic wh

Fwd: New Desktop Testing team

2009-02-10 Thread Luis Villa
FWIW, this was originally on gnome-announce; for those who aren't on that list (1) you should be (2) here is the version with all the links included ;) -- Forwarded message -- From: Ara Pulido Date: Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 4:14 AM Subject: New Desktop Testing team To: gnome-announce

Re: New Desktop Testing team

2009-02-10 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Yup, I hope we can reuse lots of that work in Sugar, though we would need to add AT-SPI support to hippo canvas first (or move to another canvas). Cheers, Tomeu 2009/2/10 Willie Walker : > +1 -- I'm very excited about this. Many thanks to the people involved who > have the energy and courage t

Re: New Desktop Testing team

2009-02-10 Thread Willie Walker
+1 -- I'm very excited about this. Many thanks to the people involved who have the energy and courage to pull this off. Will On Feb 10, 2009, at 8:48 AM, Luis Villa wrote: On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 4:14 AM, Ara Pulido wrote: Hello, We are proud to announce that a new GNOME team has been cre

Re: New Desktop Testing team

2009-02-10 Thread Luis Villa
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 4:14 AM, Ara Pulido wrote: > Hello, > > We are proud to announce that a new GNOME team has been created, focused on > desktop testing automation. > If you have ever wondered how could you test your application writing > scripts that mimic what a normal user would do, join u

Re: quo vadis, docs

2009-02-10 Thread Alberto Ruiz
2009/2/9 Murray Cumming : > On Mon, 2009-02-09 at 19:14 +, Alberto Ruiz wrote: >> >> I've been thinking how hard would it be to have a very basic webkit >> based editor that would convert the html it generates into docbook? > > Impossible, or crappy at best. HTML doesn't know that something is

Re: quo vadis, docs

2009-02-10 Thread Matej Cepl
On 2009-02-09, 17:37 GMT, Dan Winship wrote: > 1. Users don't have the manual, and if they did, they wouldn't >read it. > 2. In fact, users can't read anything, and if they could, they >wouldn't want to. As much as I like Joel and his writing (and particulary this one about user interface