Re: Metacity, Mutter, GNOME Shell, GNOME-2.28

2009-04-06 Thread Sam Spilsbury
On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 5:23 AM, Owen Taylor wrote: > On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 17:37 +0100, Alberto Ruiz wrote: >> 2009/4/6 Jason D. Clinton : >> > On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 10:34 AM, Tomas Frydrych >> > wrote: >> >> mainstream user. There are good reasons to provide legacy support, and >> >> it's grea

Re: Metacity, Mutter, GNOME Shell, GNOME-2.28

2009-04-06 Thread Owen Taylor
On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 17:37 +0100, Alberto Ruiz wrote: > 2009/4/6 Jason D. Clinton : > > On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 10:34 AM, Tomas Frydrych > > wrote: > >> mainstream user. There are good reasons to provide legacy support, and > >> it's great to be able to run GNOME on a machine that is 5 years old,

Gnome 3 and Documentation

2009-04-06 Thread Shaun McCance
Gnome 3 presents us with a wonderful opportunity to get documentation right. I believe documentation will be very important to the success of a new user experience. Furthermore, I believe that we have a rare chance to bring out new documentation with a bang. If we do it right, people will take no

Re: Metacity, Mutter, GNOME Shell, GNOME-2.28

2009-04-06 Thread Jason D. Clinton
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Alberto Ruiz wrote: > You are missing the remote desktop scenario here. This is not only a > matter of working on old hardware, being able to run gnome smoothly on > a thin client solution through XDM, or VNC, or whatever is also > needed. VNC is not an issue--it

Re: Metacity, Mutter, GNOME Shell, GNOME-2.28

2009-04-06 Thread Alberto Ruiz
2009/4/6 Jason D. Clinton : > On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 10:34 AM, Tomas Frydrych wrote: >> mainstream user. There are good reasons to provide legacy support, and >> it's great to be able to run GNOME on a machine that is 5 years old, but >> it must be seen for what it is -- legacy support, it cannot

Re: Metacity, Mutter, GNOME Shell, GNOME-2.28

2009-04-06 Thread Jason D. Clinton
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 10:34 AM, Tomas Frydrych wrote: > mainstream user. There are good reasons to provide legacy support, and > it's great to be able to run GNOME on a machine that is 5 years old, but > it must be seen for what it is -- legacy support, it cannot be where the > collective effort

Re: Metacity, Mutter, GNOME Shell, GNOME-2.28

2009-04-06 Thread Tomas Frydrych
Josselin Mouette wrote: > I don’t think maintaining a few more packages (especially packages that > already exist today) is a big effort. But it stills bother me if we are > going to propose two entirely different user experiences with two > different configurations. For the end user, it will just

Re: Planning for GNOME 3.0

2009-04-06 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
2009/4/6 Adam Schreiber : > On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Ted Gould wrote: >> On Thu, 2009-04-02 at 13:17 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote: >>> There's one obvious question related to those potential changes: what >>> will happen to the old way of doing things? For example, will we still >>> make the

Re: Planning for GNOME 3.0

2009-04-06 Thread Adam Schreiber
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Ted Gould wrote: > On Thu, 2009-04-02 at 13:17 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote: >> There's one obvious question related to those potential changes: what >> will happen to the old way of doing things? For example, will we still >> make the GNOME Panel available if, for so

Re: GNOME 3.0 Schedule draft; Streamlining of the Platform.

2009-04-06 Thread Jean Bréfort
Le lundi 06 avril 2009 à 17:10 +0300, Stefan Kost a écrit : > Andre Klapper schrieb: > > Ahoj, > > > > a draft for the GNOME 2.27 & 2.29 schedule is now available at > > > > http://live.gnome.org/TwoPointTwentyseven . > > > > The schedule also includes a plan to clean up the platform by get

Re: Planning for GNOME 3.0

2009-04-06 Thread Ted Gould
On Thu, 2009-04-02 at 13:17 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote: > There's one obvious question related to those potential changes: what > will happen to the old way of doing things? For example, will we still > make the GNOME Panel available if, for some reason, people are not > immediately happy with GNOME

Re: Planning for GNOME 3.0

2009-04-06 Thread Ted Gould
On Fri, 2009-04-03 at 14:31 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote: > Le jeudi 02 avril 2009, à 11:44 -0400, Willie Walker a écrit : > > For developers local to the Boston area, I'm happy to take a visit to > > your sight to go over accessibility considerations and to discuss your > > new UI's with you from

Re: Metacity, Mutter, GNOME Shell, GNOME-2.28

2009-04-06 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le samedi 04 avril 2009 à 15:33 +0200, Dodji Seketeli a écrit : > Then why not just run the current metacity + gnome applet combinations of > today > on that hardware ? Assuming metacity + current gnome applets are not going to > vanish all of a sudden. > > Of course, that would result in more wo

Eye of GNOME branched for 2.26

2009-04-06 Thread Felix Riemann
Hey! Just wanted to let you know that I branched the stable tree off into the "gnome-2-26" branch. trunk will be used for development again. The MaintainersCorner page says I should give a little Roadmap. Well, of course we'd like to get as much done as possible as time permits. ;-) See Claudio's

Re: Metacity, Mutter, GNOME Shell, GNOME-2.28

2009-04-06 Thread Dodji Seketeli
Calum Benson a écrit : > I guess the other category here is the current generation of thin > clients... not 'legacy hardware' by any means, they just aren't really > designed for this sort of thing. Then why not just run the current metacity + gnome applet combinations of today on that hardware ?

Re: GNOME 3.0 Schedule draft; Streamlining of the Platform.

2009-04-06 Thread Stefan Kost
Andre Klapper schrieb: > Ahoj, > > a draft for the GNOME 2.27 & 2.29 schedule is now available at > > http://live.gnome.org/TwoPointTwentyseven . > > The schedule also includes a plan to clean up the platform by getting > rid of deprecated modules. > Maintainers can see the GNOME 3 readines

Re: New module for 2.28: gnome-bluetooth

2009-04-06 Thread Baptiste Mille-Mathias
Hi there. On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 2:52 PM, Bastien Nocera wrote: > Heya, > > This is a proposal for gnome-bluetooth to be integrated in the Desktop > release for GNOME 2.28 > > > I rarely write something here, but I feel the need to write some words :). I vote for this great application whic

New module for 2.28: gnome-bluetooth

2009-04-06 Thread Bastien Nocera
Heya, This is a proposal for gnome-bluetooth to be integrated in the Desktop release for GNOME 2.28 Purpose: Device management for Bluetooth devices Target: Desktop (Linux-only) Dependencies: to achieve a full feature set: nautilus-sendto, BlueZ 4.34 (plus a few patches), obex-data-server, gvfs o