Re: GNOME and non-linux platforms (release team please stand up)

2009-07-28 Thread Joe Marcus Clarke
On Tue, 2009-07-28 at 22:03 +0100, Richard Hughes wrote: > 2009/7/28 Joe Marcus Clarke : > > We need DK first. Unfortunately, DK doesn't seem to look very portable. > > Unlike hal which had directories for platforms backends, everything > > seems to just be monolithic and udev-based. I think it

Re: GNOME and non-linux platforms (release team please stand up)

2009-07-28 Thread Richard Hughes
2009/7/28 Joe Marcus Clarke : > We need DK first.  Unfortunately, DK doesn't seem to look very portable. >  Unlike hal which had directories for platforms backends, everything > seems to just be monolithic and udev-based.  I think it would be a bit > easier to get a FreeBSD port going if things loo

Re: GNOME Menus restructuring

2009-07-28 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 22:13, Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: > On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 1:34 AM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: >> On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 22:01, Nirbheek >> Chauhan wrote: >>> On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 1:19 AM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 19:04, Matthias Clasen wrote: >

Re: GNOME and non-linux platforms (release team please stand up)

2009-07-28 Thread Brian Cameron
Colin: Though, probably the main reason why there has not much of a drive to add PolicyKit to Solaris is because there has not been much need. To date, Sun has not had much of a problem integrating the GNOME stack without having PolicyKit available. I am sure there are some features that Sola

Re: GNOME and non-linux platforms (release team please stand up)

2009-07-28 Thread Colin Walters
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 5:10 PM, Brian Cameron wrote: > Though, probably the main reason why there has not much of a drive to > add PolicyKit to Solaris is because there has not been much need.  To > date, Sun has not had much of a problem integrating the GNOME stack > without having PolicyKit ava

Re: GNOME Menus restructuring

2009-07-28 Thread Nirbheek Chauhan
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 1:34 AM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 22:01, Nirbheek > Chauhan wrote: >> On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 1:19 AM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: >>> On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 19:04, Matthias Clasen >>> wrote: I'd rather see us focus on moving away from these menus via >>>

Re: GNOME Menus restructuring

2009-07-28 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 22:01, Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: > On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 1:19 AM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: >> On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 19:04, Matthias Clasen >> wrote: >>> I'd rather see us focus on moving away from these menus via >>> gnome-shell and  and new control-center shell. >> >> And may

Re: GNOME Menus restructuring

2009-07-28 Thread Nirbheek Chauhan
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 1:19 AM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 19:04, Matthias Clasen > wrote: >> I'd rather see us focus on moving away from these menus via >> gnome-shell and  and new control-center shell. > > And maybe remove as many settings as possible? > Is this a rhetorical

Re: GNOME Menus restructuring

2009-07-28 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 19:04, Matthias Clasen wrote: > We have done essentially this (with the extra Preferences menu in > between) for a few releases in Fedora, and we have gone back to using > a single Preferences menu by default now. The two main problems we > faced with this are > > 1) deep me

Re: GNOME and non-linux platforms (release team please stand up)

2009-07-28 Thread Joe Marcus Clarke
Richard Hughes wrote: > 2009/7/24 David Zeuthen : >> On Thu, 2009-07-23 at 04:58 -0500, Brian Cameron wrote: >>> Sun is already working to add DeviceKit support to Solaris >> It would be good to the devkit-devel mailing list know about this. >> Because if this is so, we need to change some of our p

Re: GNOME and non-linux platforms (release team please stand up)

2009-07-28 Thread Brian Cameron
David: On Thu, 2009-07-23 at 04:58 -0500, Brian Cameron wrote: Sun is already working to add DeviceKit support to Solaris It would be good to the devkit-devel mailing list know about this. Because if this is so, we need to change some of our plans; in particular move the "make porting easier

Re: GNOME Menus restructuring

2009-07-28 Thread Matthias Clasen
We have done essentially this (with the extra Preferences menu in between) for a few releases in Fedora, and we have gone back to using a single Preferences menu by default now. The two main problems we faced with this are 1) deep menus are hard (your approach kinda avoids this by nuking Preferenc

GNOME Menus restructuring

2009-07-28 Thread Ken VanDine
I am looking for opinions for a potential change in gnome-menus. The default menus can get pretty long, and isn't fun to scroll through on a small display. I have created a patch for gnome-menus that re-organizes the preferences menus to match the categories gnome-cc uses. I think this makes it

Re: 2.6.31 kernel requirements for gnome-bluetooth

2009-07-28 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Tue, 2009-07-28 at 18:20 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote: > Le lundi 27 juillet 2009, à 18:06 +0100, Bastien Nocera a écrit : > > If /dev/rfkill support isn't present, you just won't be able to > > enable/disable Bluetooth through the menus/preferences. > > So, to clarify: 2.6.31 kernel is a runtime

Re: 2.6.31 kernel requirements for gnome-bluetooth

2009-07-28 Thread Vincent Untz
Le lundi 27 juillet 2009, à 18:06 +0100, Bastien Nocera a écrit : > If /dev/rfkill support isn't present, you just won't be able to > enable/disable Bluetooth through the menus/preferences. So, to clarify: 2.6.31 kernel is a runtime dependency for a specific feature and everything else works fine

Re: Visible control to toggle icons in buttons

2009-07-28 Thread Frederic Peters
Luca Ferretti wrote: > As all you may know, we recently switched to a "no icons" approach in > both menus[1] and buttons[2]. > > Currently the Appearance capplet provides a checkbox to toggle icons in menus. > > Should we (re)add a checkbox for buttons too? Maybe users that really > want icons o

pessulus branched for 2.26

2009-07-28 Thread Vincent Untz
pessulus now has gnome-2-26 branch. Vincent Le mardi 28 juillet 2009, à 17:46 +0200, Vincent Untz a écrit : > Le mardi 28 juillet 2009, à 15:43 -, GNOME Status Pages a écrit : > > This is an automatic notification from status generation scripts on: > > http://l10n.gnome.org. > > > > There ha

Re: GNOME and non-linux platforms (release team please stand up)

2009-07-28 Thread Calum Benson
On 24 Jul 2009, at 19:13, Karl Lattimer wrote: I think we could really benefit from a ux.gnome.org site for demonstrating new ideas and creating concrete mockups and cataloging testing data from various organisations who are performing usability testing or have in the past. Probably a bit OT

Re: GNOME and non-linux platforms (release team please stand up)

2009-07-28 Thread Jedy Wang
Hi Richard, This is really a good news. I juts tested the build on Solaris and succeeded after commenting out all code related to Policykit (because Solaris does not ship Policykit currently). I also CCed the engineer who is responsible for the porting of Devicekit-power to Solaris. Regards, Jed

Re: GNOME and non-linux platforms (release team please stand up)

2009-07-28 Thread Richard Hughes
2009/7/24 David Zeuthen : > On Thu, 2009-07-23 at 04:58 -0500, Brian Cameron wrote: >> Sun is already working to add DeviceKit support to Solaris > > It would be good to the devkit-devel mailing list know about this. > Because if this is so, we need to change some of our plans; in > particular move