Re: GtkNotebook scrolling usability

2010-03-11 Thread Alberto Ruiz
2010/3/11 Sandy Armstrong : > On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 4:20 PM, Luca Ferretti wrote: >> Il giorno mer, 10/03/2010 alle 16.50 -0600, Cody Russell ha scritto: >>> Just wanted to >>> post on the lists and see if people have thoughts on this, otherwise I'm >>> probably going to file a patch to either r

Re: GtkNotebook scrolling usability

2010-03-11 Thread Tomas Bzatek
On Thu, 2010-03-11 at 10:16 +0100, Christian Dywan wrote: > Using the mouse wheel that way in a web browser or text editor is a > very convenient feature. It is much quicker than having to move the > pointer to one of the sides only to switch tabs. > > Please don't break it just because you never

Re: GtkNotebook scrolling usability

2010-03-11 Thread Carlos Garnacho
Hi! :), On mié, 2010-03-10 at 16:50 -0600, Cody Russell wrote: > So, right now GtkNotebook allows you to change tabs by using the mouse > wheel. Once I noticed this and the more I thought about it, it really > seems like a terrible feature and one that may be detrimental to > usability. I may un

Re: GtkNotebook scrolling usability

2010-03-11 Thread Patryk Zawadzki
On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 2:01 PM, Carlos Garnacho wrote: > Hi! :), > > On mié, 2010-03-10 at 16:50 -0600, Cody Russell wrote: >> So, right now GtkNotebook allows you to change tabs by using the mouse >> wheel.  Once I noticed this and the more I thought about it, it really >> seems like a terrible

Re: GtkNotebook scrolling usability

2010-03-11 Thread Cody Russell
On Thu, 2010-03-11 at 10:16 +0100, Christian Dywan wrote: > Using the mouse wheel that way in a web browser or text editor is a > very convenient feature. It is much quicker than having to move the > pointer to one of the sides only to switch tabs. > > Please don't break it just because you never

Re: GtkNotebook scrolling usability

2010-03-11 Thread Cody Russell
On Thu, 2010-03-11 at 09:20 +, Alberto Ruiz wrote: > > If there ends up being a bug report about this, please share the bug > > number. And hopefully we can get some usability nerds involved in > > this decision. > > I agree with Sandy here, I would leave this decision up to the > usability g

Re: GtkNotebook scrolling usability

2010-03-11 Thread Cosimo Cecchi
On Thu, 2010-03-11 at 07:27 -0600, Cody Russell wrote: > On Thu, 2010-03-11 at 09:20 +, Alberto Ruiz wrote: > > > If there ends up being a bug report about this, please share the bug > > > number. And hopefully we can get some usability nerds involved in > > > this decision. > > > > I agree w

Re: GtkNotebook scrolling usability

2010-03-11 Thread Vinicius Depizzol
On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 10:01, Carlos Garnacho wrote: > > I may understand not all notebooks need this feature. Perhaps we could > have a MDI mode in GtkNotebook, so features such as mouse wheel > scrolling and tab switching on alt+number are effective on these? (The > latter isn't done in GTK+ it

Re: Reminder : do NOT hardcode deprecation flags in tarball / new tarballs NEEDED

2010-03-11 Thread Gustavo Carneiro
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Frederic Crozat wrote: > Le 12/01/2010 18:50, Frederic Crozat a écrit : > >> Hi everyone, >> >> just a quick reminder about deprecation flags and tarball release : >> please avoid at all cost to hardcode deprecation flags in compilation >> flags, when a module is b

Re: GtkNotebook scrolling usability

2010-03-11 Thread Alberto Ruiz
2010/3/11 Vinicius Depizzol : > On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 10:01, Carlos Garnacho wrote: >> >> I may understand not all notebooks need this feature. Perhaps we could >> have a MDI mode in GtkNotebook, so features such as mouse wheel >> scrolling and tab switching on alt+number are effective on these?

Re: GtkNotebook scrolling usability

2010-03-11 Thread Alberto Ruiz
> Actually, this reminds me of an issue I had while trying to fix tabs > in the Mac OS X/Quartz engine. > > Basically, on MDI, the Mac "preference" tab mode, is pretty weird, > that's why Safari and Firefox have their own drawn tabs instead of the > typical tabs in a preference dialog. If we had a

Re: Reminder : do NOT hardcode deprecation flags in tarball / new tarballs NEEDED

2010-03-11 Thread Frederic Crozat
Le 11/03/2010 14:50, Gustavo Carneiro a écrit : On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Frederic Crozat mailto:fcro...@mandriva.com>> wrote: Le 12/01/2010 18:50, Frederic Crozat a écrit : Hi everyone, just a quick reminder about deprecation flags and tarball release : pl

Re: Reminder : do NOT hardcode deprecation flags in tarball / new tarballs NEEDED

2010-03-11 Thread Gustavo Carneiro
On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 3:00 PM, Frederic Crozat wrote: > Le 11/03/2010 14:50, Gustavo Carneiro a écrit : > >> >> >> On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Frederic Crozat > > wrote: >> >>Le 12/01/2010 18:50, Frederic Crozat a écrit : >> >>Hi everyone, >> >>

Re: GtkNotebook scrolling usability

2010-03-11 Thread Johannes Schmid
Hi! Am Donnerstag, den 11.03.2010, 14:20 + schrieb Alberto Ruiz: > Now that I think about it, I think the notebook needs a review from a > wider perspective. > We are trying to make this class one-size-fits-all-cases. > > We already discussed about simplifying this widget a bit (we already >

Re: GtkNotebook scrolling usability

2010-03-11 Thread Alberto Ruiz
2010/3/11 Johannes Schmid : > Hi! > > Am Donnerstag, den 11.03.2010, 14:20 + schrieb Alberto Ruiz: >> Now that I think about it, I think the notebook needs a review from a >> wider perspective. >> We are trying to make this class one-size-fits-all-cases. >> >> We already discussed about simplif

Re: Reminder : do NOT hardcode deprecation flags in tarball / new tarballs NEEDED

2010-03-11 Thread Matthew Barnes
On Wed, 2010-03-10 at 19:05 +0100, Frederic Crozat wrote: > Since I'm the release team member taking care of 2.29.92 release, I'm > going to rant again against modules which are hardcoding deprecation > flags in their configure.in (or Makefile.am), even when building from > tarballs. Please, avo

Re: Reminder : do NOT hardcode deprecation flags in tarball / new tarballs NEEDED

2010-03-11 Thread Braden McDaniel
On 3/11/10 11:09 AM, Matthew Barnes wrote: > On Wed, 2010-03-10 at 19:05 +0100, Frederic Crozat wrote: >> Since I'm the release team member taking care of 2.29.92 release, I'm >> going to rant again against modules which are hardcoding deprecation >> flags in their configure.in (or Makefile.am),

Re: GtkNotebook scrolling usability

2010-03-11 Thread Sam Thursfield
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 10:50 PM, Cody Russell wrote: > So, right now GtkNotebook allows you to change tabs by using the mouse > wheel.  Once I noticed this and the more I thought about it, it really > seems like a terrible feature and one that may be detrimental to > usability. Seems like it wou