Re: GNOME Moduleset Reorganization vs. L10N

2010-10-15 Thread Kenneth Nielsen
2010/10/15 daniel g. siegel : > On Fri, 2010-10-15 at 16:47 +0200, Johannes Schmid wrote: >> Hi! >> >> > As much as I'd like to claim it, I don't think we can achieve >> > everything with a single shot. :-) Maintainers of GNOME modules hosted >> > outside of git.gnome.org don't always feel comforta

Re: about me (was: Re: GNOME 3 external dependency proposal (accounts service))

2010-10-15 Thread Travis Reitter
On Tue, 2010-10-12 at 22:23 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote: > On Tue, 2010-10-12 at 20:49 +0200, Johannes Schmid wrote: > accounts-service has a field for e-mails, for the rest, libfolks could > offer a similar information about the rest of the accounts, though you'd > still end up depending on e-d-s

Re: GNOME Moduleset Reorganization vs. L10N

2010-10-15 Thread Claude Paroz
Le vendredi 15 octobre 2010 à 13:29 -0500, Diego Escalante Urrelo a écrit : > El vie, 15-10-2010 a las 08:29 -0700, Sandy Armstrong escribió: > > > > I'm not a fan myself, but I can see how once a project was already > > hooked on a Launchpad-oriented process, it would be work to migrate to > > GN

Re: GNOME Moduleset Reorganization vs. L10N

2010-10-15 Thread Jeff Schroeder
On Fri, 2010-10-15 at 13:29 -0500, Diego Escalante Urrelo wrote: > El vie, 15-10-2010 a las 08:29 -0700, Sandy Armstrong escribió: > > > > I'm not a fan myself, but I can see how once a project was already > > hooked on a Launchpad-oriented process, it would be work to migrate to > > GNOME infrast

Re: GNOME Moduleset Reorganization vs. L10N

2010-10-15 Thread Diego Escalante Urrelo
El vie, 15-10-2010 a las 08:29 -0700, Sandy Armstrong escribió: > > I'm not a fan myself, but I can see how once a project was already > hooked on a Launchpad-oriented process, it would be work to migrate to > GNOME infrastructure. > Agree, how could we shorten that difference? I think this is t

Re: Moduleset Reorganization -- Take two

2010-10-15 Thread Murray Cumming
On Fri, 2010-10-15 at 11:33 -0400, Shaun McCance wrote: > On Fri, 2010-10-15 at 17:21 +0200, Murray Cumming wrote: > > On Thu, 2010-10-07 at 13:38 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote: > > > System Platform > > > === > > > > > > The System Platform is the set of libraries or dbus services that ar

Re: Moduleset Reorganization -- Take two

2010-10-15 Thread Shaun McCance
On Fri, 2010-10-15 at 17:21 +0200, Murray Cumming wrote: > On Thu, 2010-10-07 at 13:38 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote: > > System Platform > > === > > > > The System Platform is the set of libraries or dbus services that are > > used in GNOME, but are modules belonging to lower parts of the

Re: GNOME Moduleset Reorganization vs. L10N

2010-10-15 Thread Sandy Armstrong
On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 8:02 AM, daniel g. siegel wrote: > On Fri, 2010-10-15 at 16:47 +0200, Johannes Schmid wrote: >> Hi! >> >> > As much as I'd like to claim it, I don't think we can achieve >> > everything with a single shot. :-) Maintainers of GNOME modules hosted >> > outside of git.gnome.or

Re: Moduleset Reorganization -- Take two

2010-10-15 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Murray Cumming wrote: > On Thu, 2010-10-07 at 13:38 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote: >> System Platform >> === >> >> The System Platform is the set of libraries or dbus services that are >> used in GNOME, but are modules belonging to lower parts of the stack

Re: Moduleset Reorganization -- Take two

2010-10-15 Thread Murray Cumming
On Thu, 2010-10-07 at 13:38 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote: > System Platform > === > > The System Platform is the set of libraries or dbus services that are > used in GNOME, but are modules belonging to lower parts of the stack. > We > encourage their use for GNOME applications. > > This

Re: GNOME Moduleset Reorganization vs. L10N

2010-10-15 Thread daniel g. siegel
On Fri, 2010-10-15 at 16:47 +0200, Johannes Schmid wrote: > Hi! > > > As much as I'd like to claim it, I don't think we can achieve > > everything with a single shot. :-) Maintainers of GNOME modules hosted > > outside of git.gnome.org don't always feel comfortable with raw > > commits to their VC

Re: Moduleset Reorganization -- Take two

2010-10-15 Thread Johannes Schmid
Hi! > > And many > > of these modules have very little to do with each other and very > > little reason to be forced into the same schedule. > > Can you give us a list of actual modules that will no longer be on the > release schedule, please? That would help me judge the actual effect. I don't

Re: GNOME Moduleset Reorganization vs. L10N

2010-10-15 Thread Johannes Schmid
Hi! > As much as I'd like to claim it, I don't think we can achieve > everything with a single shot. :-) Maintainers of GNOME modules hosted > outside of git.gnome.org don't always feel comfortable with raw > commits to their VCS (security, noise in the vcs history etc). Whether > translations sho

Re: GNOME Moduleset Reorganization vs. L10N

2010-10-15 Thread Dimitris Glezos
On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 4:27 PM, Shaun McCance wrote: > On Fri, 2010-10-15 at 12:59 +0300, Dimitris Glezos wrote: >> On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 12:42 PM, Johannes Schmid wrote: >> >> Starting from 1.0, Transifex no longer forces commits to VCS. Yay. :-) >> > >> > We want forced commits! We don't wan

Re: GNOME Moduleset Reorganization vs. L10N

2010-10-15 Thread Shaun McCance
On Fri, 2010-10-15 at 12:59 +0300, Dimitris Glezos wrote: > On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 12:42 PM, Johannes Schmid wrote: > >> Starting from 1.0, Transifex no longer forces commits to VCS. Yay. :-) > > > > We want forced commits! We don't want people to care about translations > > unless they are trans

Re: GNOME Moduleset Reorganization vs. L10N

2010-10-15 Thread Dimitris Glezos
On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 12:42 PM, Johannes Schmid wrote: >> Starting from 1.0, Transifex no longer forces commits to VCS. Yay. :-) > > We want forced commits! We don't want people to care about translations > unless they are translators because we found out in the past that some > won't care. > >

Re: GNOME Moduleset Reorganization vs. L10N

2010-10-15 Thread Johannes Schmid
Hi! > Starting from 1.0, Transifex no longer forces commits to VCS. Yay. :-) We want forced commits! We don't want people to care about translations unless they are translators because we found out in the past that some won't care. If the maintainer has to commit translations manually - that's a

Re: GNOME Moduleset Reorganization vs. L10N

2010-10-15 Thread Dimitris Glezos
On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 12:14 PM, Johannes Schmid wrote: > Hi! > >> I suspect a GNOME instance of Transifex will solve this, as long as >> the upstream maintainer chooses to use GTP instead of another >> translation community. What are our main problems for projects not >> hosted on GNOME servers?

Re: gnome-panel -> gtk3

2010-10-15 Thread Vincent Untz
Le jeudi 14 octobre 2010, à 15:38 +0200, Jan de Groot a écrit : > On Wed, 2010-10-13 at 17:50 -0300, Jonh Wendell wrote: > > Hi, folks. > > > > Will we have a gnome-panel ported to gtk3? We need it for gnome 3 as > > fallback for gnome-shell, right? It will eventually, yes. Help welcome, etc. Not

Re: GNOME Moduleset Reorganization vs. L10N

2010-10-15 Thread Johannes Schmid
Hi! > I suspect a GNOME instance of Transifex will solve this, as long as > the upstream maintainer chooses to use GTP instead of another > translation community. What are our main problems for projects not > hosted on GNOME servers? The main problem is that external projects often don't allow tr

Re: Moduleset Reorganization vs. L10N

2010-10-15 Thread Kenneth Nielsen
2010/10/12 Claude Paroz : > Sorry, I was away for some days and wasn't able to give my opinion > sooner. > > First of all, I'd like to support that using the GNOME infrastructure is > invaluable for translators. It is not rare for us to commit in modules, > (POTFILES.in, translator comments, other

Re: GNOME Moduleset Reorganization vs. L10N

2010-10-15 Thread Dimitris Glezos
On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Kenneth Nielsen wrote: > 2010/10/12 Johannes Schmid : >> After some thinking transiflex really looks like a nice solution. I >> mean, damned-lies is cool but it adds a lot of maintaince work (for >> Claude). >> >> Could we install our own transiflex instance on ou

Re: Moduleset Reorganization vs. L10N

2010-10-15 Thread Kenneth Nielsen
2010/10/12 Gabor Kelemen : > 2010-10-12 17:41 keltezéssel, Gil Forcada írta: >> >> Then l10n.gnome.org should make commits in the git.gnome.org version and >> the maintainer should only had to pick the translations from there. >> >> > > No, please do not want to rely on "then the maintaner will com

Re: GNOME Moduleset Reorganization vs. L10N

2010-10-15 Thread Kenneth Nielsen
2010/10/12 Johannes Schmid : > Hi! > > Am Dienstag, den 12.10.2010, 18:30 + schrieb Og Maciel: >> On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 12:25 PM, Kenneth Nielsen >> wrote: >> > Implementable workflow (3). (A) again is status quo, not much to say >> > about that. Transifex (C) (afaik*) workflow revolves aro