On Fri, 2011-05-20 at 23:12 +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> Le vendredi 20 mai 2011 à 10:37 -0400, Shaun McCance a écrit :
> > I think Evandro's proposal is fair as well. We could set up a
> > wiki page listing D-Bus interfaces we expect to be available.
> > And not just for systemd-related things
On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 3:32 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> Matthias Clasen (matthias.cla...@gmail.com) said:
>
> Initial state: a system with no users
> a) InitialSetup runs
> b) Create first user
> c) Configure first user's settings
> d) First user has full session
> e) First user creates additio
Le vendredi 20 mai 2011 à 10:37 -0400, Shaun McCance a écrit :
> I think Evandro's proposal is fair as well. We could set up a
> wiki page listing D-Bus interfaces we expect to be available.
> And not just for systemd-related things. Don't like PackageKit?
> Fine, whatever, but we expect you to mak
Matthias Clasen (matthias.cla...@gmail.com) said:
> Let me answer them.
>
> A. The design is to run this only for the initial setup, when no users
> exist yet. The large majority of systems nowadays are single-user,
> anyway...
OK, but that does make me wonder about when this isn't the case. The
Hi,
On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 11:21 AM, Johannes Schmid wrote:
> Hi!
>
>> B. Not planned, no. This is intended to configure a handful of
>> essential things, not an open-ended list of things you might want to
>> set up if happen to know about them. If twitter-esque web services
>> become supported
Hi!
> B. Not planned, no. This is intended to configure a handful of
> essential things, not an open-ended list of things you might want to
> set up if happen to know about them. If twitter-esque web services
> become supported by 'online accounts', that would make it possible for
> gwibber to pic
On Fri, 2011-05-20 at 10:49 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
> On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 10:37 AM, Shaun McCance wrote:
>
> > Can we list exactly what we expect to work for the features we
> > need? That way, if anybody wants to do the porting work, they
> > know exactly what they need to do.
>
> I'v
Le vendredi 20 mai 2011 à 11:11 -0400, Colin Walters a écrit :
> The best argument for having this as part of the OS is for the live CD
> scenario. You might as well type in your username each time if you
> have to pick language etc. too.
Hi,
The liveCD or the installer don't require any output
On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 8:39 AM, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> Le vendredi 20 mai 2011 à 08:02 -0400, Matthias Clasen a écrit :
>> - An 'initial-setup' tool. The goal here is to allow setting up a few
>> essential things on a new system before you start to use it for the
>> first time.
>
> Please don’
On 20 May 2011 13:38, Richard Hughes wrote:
> When I've pushed some of the initial code into gnome-control-center
> and gnome-settings-daemon I'll post some screenshots of what it looks
> like.
Okay, I've pushed the code to g-s-d and g-c-c just now. Thanks to
Bastien and Matthias for the super-qu
On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 9:44 AM, Luca Ferretti wrote:
> If you missed the point, I'm asking about planned behavior and features
> for this first time assistant:
> A. will it be only for "master" user or for all users?
> B. will it allow some kind of customization by
> vendor/distr
On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 10:37 AM, Shaun McCance wrote:
> Can we list exactly what we expect to work for the features we
> need? That way, if anybody wants to do the porting work, they
> know exactly what they need to do.
I've already pointed this out http://live.gnome.org/PortabilityMatrix
which
On Thu, 2011-05-19 at 13:10 -0300, Evandro Fernandes Giovanini wrote:
> Em Qui, 2011-05-19 às 15:15 +0200, Lennart Poettering escreveu:
> > On Thu, 19.05.11 00:50, Sergey Udaltsov (sergey.udalt...@gmail.com) wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > > I think the best way to save resources is not to run anything. F
Hi José,
On Fri, 2011-05-20 at 09:52 -0400, José Aliste wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have a simple question (hopefully ddl is the right mail list for
> this): how are we supposed to interact with the design team? it seems
> that the best way is contacting them through irc in #gnome-design, but
> what about
On Fri, 2011-05-20 at 09:52 -0400, José Aliste wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have a simple question (hopefully ddl is the right mail list for
> this): how are we supposed to interact with the design team? it seems
> that the best way is contacting them through irc in #gnome-design, but
> what about Gnome bug
On Thu, 19.05.11 23:51, Luca Ferretti (lferr...@gnome.org) wrote:
> > In the future I expect more interfacing with GNOME however, and I'd thus
> > like to see the discussion regarding acceptance as blessed
> > dependency started early.
>
> Are you planning to "delegate" single module maintainers t
On 20 May 2011 14:44, Luca Ferretti wrote:
> Now serious, I repeat. We still have to define what GNOME OS will be. So
> I suggest to use 3.2 timeframe to clean up applications and libraries
> instead starting to work on "downstream" stuff. Do you?
I thought 3.0 was all about getting our platform
Hi,
I have a simple question (hopefully ddl is the right mail list for
this): how are we supposed to interact with the design team? it seems
that the best way is contacting them through irc in #gnome-design, but
what about Gnome bugzilla? Does setting a keyword or something makes
the design team i
Il giorno ven, 20/05/2011 alle 14.37 +0100, Richard Hughes ha scritto:
> On 20 May 2011 14:31, Luca Ferretti wrote:
> > "In GNOME 3.2, colord is an approved external dependancy and many GNOME
> > applications should use this to make a 100% color managed desktop."
> >
> > Ehmm.. "is"? really?
>
>
Il giorno ven, 20/05/2011 alle 14.29 +0100, Bastien Nocera ha scritto:
> On Fri, 2011-05-20 at 15:19 +0200, Luca Ferretti wrote:
> >
> > I strongly suggest to postpone this, if planned to be performed after
> > installation and before first login to setup the "master" user (as it
> > seems readin
On 20 May 2011 14:31, Luca Ferretti wrote:
> "In GNOME 3.2, colord is an approved external dependancy and many GNOME
> applications should use this to make a 100% color managed desktop."
>
> Ehmm.. "is"? really?
I sent an email to DDL prior to the release of 3.0 that colord would
be a dep for gno
Il giorno ven, 20/05/2011 alle 08.24 -0400, Matthias Clasen ha scritto:
> You can read the details here:
> https://live.gnome.org/ThreePointOne/Features/ColorManagement
"In GNOME 3.2, colord is an approved external dependancy and many GNOME
applications should use this to make a 100% color manage
On Fri, 2011-05-20 at 15:19 +0200, Luca Ferretti wrote:
> Il giorno ven, 20/05/2011 alle 08.02 -0400, Matthias Clasen ha scritto:
>
> > - An 'initial-setup' tool. The goal here is to allow setting up a few
> > essential things on a new system before you start to use it for the
> > first time.
>
>
Le vendredi 20 mai 2011 à 15:12 +0200, Josselin Mouette a écrit :
> Le vendredi 20 mai 2011 à 09:07 -0400, Matthias Clasen a écrit :
> > > A system should be immediately usable once the installation is finished.
> >
> > There's plenty of scenarios where this logic doesn't work:
> > - preinstalled
Il giorno ven, 20/05/2011 alle 08.02 -0400, Matthias Clasen ha scritto:
> - An 'initial-setup' tool. The goal here is to allow setting up a few
> essential things on a new system before you start to use it for the
> first time.
I strongly suggest to postpone this, if planned to be performed after
Le vendredi 20 mai 2011 à 09:07 -0400, Matthias Clasen a écrit :
> > A system should be immediately usable once the installation is finished.
>
> There's plenty of scenarios where this logic doesn't work:
> - preinstalled or otherwise provisioned systems
> - generally any situation where the pers
On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 8:39 AM, Josselin Mouette wrote:
>
> Please don’t do this. It would merely duplicate the functionality
> already in the installer.
>
> A system should be immediately usable once the installation is finished.
There's plenty of scenarios where this logic doesn't work:
- pre
Le vendredi 20 mai 2011 à 08:02 -0400, Matthias Clasen a écrit :
> - An 'initial-setup' tool. The goal here is to allow setting up a few
> essential things on a new system before you start to use it for the
> first time.
Please don’t do this. It would merely duplicate the functionality
already in
On 20 May 2011 13:24, Matthias Clasen wrote:
> Over the past week, Richard and I have spent a lot of time in
> #gnome-design, discussing the goals and design for a 'color'
> control-center panel. This was hard; color management is a very
> technical topic.
I just wanted to thank all the people in
On Fri, 2011-05-20 at 08:02 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
> Over the past week, I've been working with Ray on fleshing out the
> plans for gdm in 3.2. We are aiming for 2 things for 3.2:
>
> - A new 'shell-style' greeter. You can see a mockup on the feature page.
Will the UI be something that can
Over the past week, Richard and I have spent a lot of time in
#gnome-design, discussing the goals and design for a 'color'
control-center panel. This was hard; color management is a very
technical topic. But what we have come up with looks good enough and
is limited enough in scope that we are comf
Over the past week, I've been working with Ray on fleshing out the
plans for gdm in 3.2. We are aiming for 2 things for 3.2:
- A new 'shell-style' greeter. You can see a mockup on the feature page.
- An 'initial-setup' tool. The goal here is to allow setting up a few
essential things on a new sys
Dave Neary wrote:
> Leaving aside "because that's the way it is" as a reason for a second,
> what are the potential issues we'd have using Launchpad?
>
> * Bug reporters would have to have an easy way to report bugs against
> Deja Dup through gnome.org
> * GNOME developers would need to reassign
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