Re: Design in the open

2012-05-03 Thread Diego Escalante Urrelo
On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 5:19 PM, Federico Mena Quintero wrote: > > As a way to solve these issues, I'd like to follow up on an idea which I > sketched during last year's Desktop Summit - namely, about constructing > a pattern language for Gnome's design based on the good things that what > we have

Re: Design in the open

2012-05-03 Thread Sriram Ramkrishna
On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 11:17 PM, Alberto Ruiz wrote: > I'm completely and utterly against this idea, you might push away the > noise, but you are pushing away all new contributors as well... how are you > supposed to become a design contributor if you're not a programmer and you > cannot contribu

Re: Design in the open

2012-05-03 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Wed, 2012-04-25 at 14:27 +0100, Allan Day wrote: > But there are challenges and things we can do better. Among those > obstacles, I see: > > * lack of design resources - we are always trailing behind where we > want to be, and there are important tasks which we are unable to > complete (a new

Re: Rotting patches [was: Re: Reviewed-By: and pastebins]

2012-05-03 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 1:14 PM, Andre Klapper wrote: > On Thu, 2012-05-03 at 12:00 -0400, Colin Walters wrote: >> One of my goals for 2012 is to increase the number of patches I'm >> reviewing myself, and more generally, even further increase the >> percentage of patches that go into GNOME that ha

Re: Reviewed-By: and pastebins

2012-05-03 Thread Colin Walters
On Thu, 2012-05-03 at 13:00 -0400, Ray Strode wrote: > I don't think the person who reviewed a patch is always critical > information, though. Certainly, drive-by pastebin patches should be > trivial and obvious. If the proposed changes aren't trivial and > obvious, then they should go to bugzil

Re: Rotting patches [was: Re: Reviewed-By: and pastebins]

2012-05-03 Thread Colin Walters
On Thu, 2012-05-03 at 19:14 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote: > While peer reviews are great, **in some projects** teams miss manpower > already to have reviews at all, without any peer. If one doesn't have any peers for a particular project, yes, clearly there's no one to review. However we should be

Re: Gnome 3 issues

2012-05-03 Thread Florian Müllner
On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 5:18 PM, Emmanuel Pacaud wrote: > Wouldn't it be better to make replace the PgDown > sequence. PgUp/PgDown are the standard GNOME shortcuts for switching between tabs, so I don't think removing them is a good idea. Obviously we could add left/right as additional shortcu

Rotting patches [was: Re: Reviewed-By: and pastebins]

2012-05-03 Thread Andre Klapper
On Thu, 2012-05-03 at 12:00 -0400, Colin Walters wrote: > One of my goals for 2012 is to increase the number of patches I'm > reviewing myself, and more generally, even further increase the > percentage of patches that go into GNOME that have peer review. Offtopic, but the obvious first step would

Re: Reviewed-By: and pastebins

2012-05-03 Thread Ray Strode
Hi, On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:00 PM, Colin Walters wrote: > In this scenario, I don't want to lose the critical information that the > patch has been reviewed (and who reviewed it).  So here's the proposal: I think when the person who reviewed a patch is critical information, then the details of

Re: Gnome 3 issues

2012-05-03 Thread Juanjo Marín
- Mensaje original - > De: Juanjo Marín > Para: surma ; "desktop-devel-list@gnome.org" > > CC: > Enviado: Jueves 3 de Mayo de 2012 18:23 > Asunto: Re: Gnome 3 issues > >it is totally functional IMHO. > BTW, I recommend GNOME 3.4, previous versions had some issues in my experience

Re: Reviewed-By: and pastebins

2012-05-03 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:00 PM, Colin Walters wrote: > > Opinions? > It would be nice if git-bz and splinter could work together to get Reviewed-By tags added automatically. In general, more patch review is of course a good thing, and keeping a better record of it is a great idea - as long as w

Re: Gnome 3 issues

2012-05-03 Thread Juanjo Marín
>Why did you screw up gnome menus? >I've been using gnome since 2000, and it >has been the best desktop available until gnome 3 >came. I had a terrible car accident 31. Dets 2005, >which caused me to spend 6 months in coma. >That messed up my hands and I can't use mouse. >That is why I liked gnome

Reviewed-By: and pastebins

2012-05-03 Thread Colin Walters
Hi, One of my goals for 2012 is to increase the number of patches I'm reviewing myself, and more generally, even further increase the percentage of patches that go into GNOME that have peer review. git-bz and splinter make this flow fairly good, however for trivial patches, especially when multip

Re: Gnome 3 issues

2012-05-03 Thread Emmanuel Pacaud
Le jeudi 03 mai 2012 à 16:56 +0200, Florian Müllner a écrit : > That messed up my hands and I can't use mouse. > That is why I liked gnome 2, everything could be done > without mouse. > > And the same is true for Gnome3 - to navigate to an application, you > can use > PgD

Re: Gnome 3 issues

2012-05-03 Thread Florian Müllner
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 8:40 AM, surma wrote: > That messed up my hands and I can't use mouse. > That is why I liked gnome 2, everything could be done > without mouse. > And the same is true for Gnome3 - to navigate to an application, you can use PgDown( | | ) (or , select "Applications

Re: 3.6 Feature: Initial setup

2012-05-03 Thread Colin Walters
On Mon, 2012-04-23 at 22:41 +0200, Krzysztof Walo wrote: > Wouldn't it be better if it looked like this: > 1. Ask user necessary questions (language, name, time zone?) > 2. Launch desktop session > 3. Let user configure it > 4. Install system > > 4th step would only require to setup parti

Re: 3.6 Feature: Lock Screen

2012-05-03 Thread Martyn Russell
On 04/26/2012 02:27 PM, Jakub Steiner wrote: Hi Shaun, Hello all, I *love* the idea of showing notifications and allowing control of media playback. It's something I've wanted for a very, very long time. But I share Bhaavan's concern with having to physically drag the screen up. It's very cu

Re: Gnome 3 issues

2012-05-03 Thread Maciej Marcin Piechotka
On Fri, 2012-04-27 at 09:40 +0300, surma wrote: > Hello, > On to the point. > Why did you screw up gnome menus? > I've > been using gnome since 2000, and it > has been the best desktop > available until gnome 3 > came. I had a terrible car accident 31. Dets > 2005, > which caused me to spend 6 mont

Gnome 3 issues

2012-05-03 Thread surma
Hello, On to the point. Why did you screw up gnome menus? I've been using gnome since 2000, and it has been the best desktop available until gnome 3 came. I had a terrible car accident 31. Dets 2005, which caused me to spend 6 months in coma. That messed up my hands and I can't use mouse. That is w

Re: 3.6 Feature: Lock Screen

2012-05-03 Thread Jakub Steiner
Hey Maciej, > Why use PIN at all? (Apparently that is question for Windows 8 as > well). > Or is it for smartcards? PIN entry is an alternative authorization method for form factors where a typically long text entry (especially with numerals thrown in) is too much of a burden, like on a tablet

Re: 3.6 Feature: Lock Screen

2012-05-03 Thread Jakub Steiner
Hi Shaun, > I *love* the idea of showing notifications and allowing control of > media playback. It's something I've wanted for a very, very long > time. > > But I share Bhaavan's concern with having to physically drag the > screen up. It's very cumbersome with a mouse. And aside from being > inc

3.6 Feature: Lock Screen

2012-05-03 Thread shuihuzhuan
Hello, A little off topic, but since the move to gnome-shell I miss an automatic slideshow when the computer is idle (a screensaver in old terminology). How could it be integrated with the proposed design? Would customization of the lock screen be possible? Maybe a rotating background with a m

Re: 3.6 Feature: Initial setup

2012-05-03 Thread Krzysztof Walo
On Mon, 2012-04-23 at 14:08 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: > Sure, I agree that the online account and intro tour steps are useful > for every new user, not just the first. Beyond that, they are also > useful for an existing user who just upgraded his system from GNOME 2 > and is not familiar with t

Feature Proposal: finding and rediscovering shared links

2012-05-03 Thread seiflo...@googlemail.com
Ben, Peter, and Bruce share links to interesting articles and videos and sometimes they can't check it, like if Bruce is in a meeting or out and about on his phone, but if his computer also kept track of the link in IM, then he could look at it then. So one thing is that Bruce is unavailable to lo

Re: Module Proposal: Zeitgeist

2012-05-03 Thread Emily Gonyer
You know, when I first stumbled on zeitgeist running on my system a year or so ago, I didn't know what in the world it was doing, although it appeared to be logging... something. And I think I probably forced it to quit out of pure habit, before going online to figure out what it was actually doing

Re: Module Proposal: Zeitgeist

2012-05-03 Thread Sriram Ramkrishna
+1 for me. I think there is some great potential for interesting features in GNOME. I've always been a big fan of the mapping of documents on a calendar so I know what I was working on a particular day. As a marketing guy, I'd like us to beat our competition with unique features that can't be se

Re: About "fast dial" contacts in Overview mode

2012-05-03 Thread Allan Day
Hey Petris, pec...@gmail.com wrote: > Hi everyone! > > Since GNOME Shell 3.2 I love feature of overview accessing contacts > database and looking up their status. However, while I understand > reasoning to have default behaviour to just open entry in Contacts > app, I would like to have fast acce