GNOME keyring unlocking

2013-10-10 Thread p10
Hello , all , I just transitioned from Thunderbird to Evolution + GNOME online accounts and found out there's one big drawback (at least for me it's very annoying) - autologin doesn't unlock the keyring . I think I understand more or less why that's happening , but autologin is useless if you're go

Re: GNOME keyring unlocking

2013-10-10 Thread Simon McVittie
On 10/10/13 11:13, p10 wrote: > autologin doesn't unlock the keyring . I think I > understand more or less why that's happening The reason is: libpam-gnome-keyring needs your password to decrypt the keyring. Without your password, it just doesn't have enough information. > Now my first question

Re: GNOME keyring unlocking

2013-10-10 Thread Debarshi Ray
On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 01:13:55PM +0300, p10 wrote: > I just transitioned from Thunderbird to Evolution + GNOME online > accounts and found out there's one big drawback (at least for me it's > very annoying) - autologin doesn't unlock the keyring . Stef had some ideas: http://www.superlectures.co

Re: GNOME keyring unlocking

2013-10-10 Thread p10
Thanks for the explanation , so the problem is not trivial . But it still stands - people are setting empty passwords to avoid entering a password every time + the auto-login option becomes practically obsolete when using the keyring. So where do I further the discussion on that - a bug , a bluepri

Re: GNOME keyring unlocking

2013-10-10 Thread Milan Bouchet-Valat
Le jeudi 10 octobre 2013 à 14:26 +0300, p10 a écrit : > Thanks for the explanation , so the problem is not trivial . But it > still stands - people are setting empty passwords to avoid entering a > password every time + the auto-login option becomes practically obsolete > when using the keyring. So

Re: GNOME keyring unlocking

2013-10-10 Thread Sam Bull
On Thu, 2013-10-10 at 13:13 +0300, p10 wrote: > if you're going to enter your password after 5 seconds anyway, which > makes this feature incompatible with "Online accounts" . My solution is to use two keyrings. I have a passwordless keyring for IM and other stuff that is accessed immediately on a

Re: 3.12 features: better integration with Facebook and Windows Live

2013-10-10 Thread Andres Fernandez
El 10/10/2013 03:02, escribió: > > Hello, > > Is there any plan to add support for MediaGoblin and Diaspora Diaspora doesn't have a public API yet. Andrés Fernandez Software Peronista ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org htt

Re: GNOME keyring unlocking

2013-10-10 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Thu, 2013-10-10 at 14:21 +0200, Milan Bouchet-Valat wrote: > What are you asking for exactly? To encrypt your keyring using a > password you do not need to type at all? ;-) But he's right: autologin is useless right now, unless somehow you've managed to never use the keyring by having no wirele

Re: 3.12 features: better integration with Facebook and Windows Live

2013-10-10 Thread fr33domlover
Then what about MediaGoblin? Anyway, there's a chance Diaspora develops a public API if you talk to them and explain they're going to have a desktop plugin in GNOME. I'm sure they'll be happy. So the only question is whether someone wants to develop a plugin once Diaspora has the API. On ה', 2013

Re: GNOME keyring unlocking

2013-10-10 Thread Dominique Leuenberger a.k.a. Dimstar
Quoting Michael Catanzaro : On Thu, 2013-10-10 at 14:21 +0200, Milan Bouchet-Valat wrote: What are you asking for exactly? To encrypt your keyring using a password you do not need to type at all? ;-) But he's right: autologin is useless right now, unless somehow you've managed to never use t

Re: GNOME keyring unlocking

2013-10-10 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Thu, 2013-10-10 at 16:41 +0200, Dominique Leuenberger a.k.a. Dimstar wrote: > Would you recommend to 'automatically' create a keyring without a > password for autologin users? I think it's a matter of sane defaults. I do think automatic login clearly implies that the user does not want to typ

Re: 3.12 feature: polari

2013-10-10 Thread Florian Müllner
On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 3:33 PM, Matthias Clasen wrote: > Do you have something like a roadmap for what you hope to have in 3.12 ? I have just added one at https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Polari/Roadmap; there is only one item that isn't either small or doesn't have some initial code, so it should be

Re: 3.12 feature: polari

2013-10-10 Thread Allan Day
Kenneth Nielsen wrote: > I don't mean to be a buzz kill here but IRC clients seem to be dime a dozen. Can you give a list of dedicated IRC clients for GNOME? How many of them are any good? Allan ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gn

Re: GNOME keyring unlocking

2013-10-10 Thread p10
On Thu, 2013-10-10 at 14:05 +0100, fox_aaawkq wrote: > On Thu, 2013-10-10 at 13:13 +0300, p10 wrote: > > if you're going to enter your password after 5 seconds anyway, which > > makes this feature incompatible with "Online accounts" . > > My solution is to use two keyrings. I have a passwordless k

Re: GNOME keyring unlocking

2013-10-10 Thread Sam Bull
On Thu, 2013-10-10 at 10:28 -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > I missed the distinction between login tasks (wireless networks, > Telepathy accounts) and non-login tasks (web/email passwords) that Sam > Bull has pointed out. So maybe non-login-related passwords could still > be protected by default.

Re: GNOME keyring unlocking

2013-10-10 Thread Sam Bull
On Thu, 2013-10-10 at 20:12 +0300, p10 wrote: > The problem > is that if someone manages to hack his way into my account/computer (say > there's some SSH/VNC/Bittorrent sync/whatever else vulnerability) I > don't want my passwords in plain text. > > if you unlock the > keyring every user-space app

Re: GNOME keyring unlocking

2013-10-10 Thread Simon McVittie
On 10/10/13 18:12, p10 wrote: > That's my current "security setup" - a user account that I use for > everything , and 'su' into root with a password I don't keep stored > anywhere If you type your root password into a gnome-terminal running with user privileges, a shell running with user privilege

Re: 3.12 features: better integration with Facebook and Windows Live

2013-10-10 Thread Andres Fernandez
Hi, fr33domlover El jue, 10 de oct 2013 a las 11:29 , fr33domlover escribió: Then what about MediaGoblin? Anyway, there's a chance Diaspora develops a public API if you talk to them and explain they're going to have a desktop plugin in GNOME. I'm sure they'll be happy. Well, I'm not invol

Re: GNOME keyring unlocking

2013-10-10 Thread p10
Very good points . It seems I have a lot more to read on linux security . On Thu, 2013-10-10 at 19:01 +0100, Simon McVittie wrote: > On 10/10/13 18:12, p10 wrote: > > That's my current "security setup" - a user account that I use for > > everything , and 'su' into root with a password I don't keep