Hi,
I do fully agree with you Alberto. Autotools has some drawback that
can't be fixed without replacing it, but current alternative seems not
to provide feature parity with autotools.
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Sorry, i didn't meant 'include' but 'port'. I talked only about the
features, not the implementation.
Toujours à chipoter :)
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But at the same time, Gtk+ deprecate GtkRuler and other widget, making
room for such library. :/ Do we have an official "gtk-extra-widgets"
library for such widgets ?
libview has some interesting widgets that may worth entering Gtk+ (like
FieldEntry, Header, etc.). Other should be merged insi
+1 for inclusion, i even would like to use it in GNOME Scan.
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I also find bzr not as robust as git in general.
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Hi,
Let me add my +1 for empathy in GNOME 2.24 :D
Bon courage !
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> Idea #3) Develop a tutorial for GIO/GVFS.
This would fit better in GHOP.
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I'm implementing per app settings saving in libgnomescan using gconf. I
wonder which key naming policy i should use :
/apps/gnome-scan/%apps%/%key% ?
/apps/%apps%/gnome-scan/%key% ?
/desktop/gnome/scan/%apps%/%key% ?
other ?
Please help me :)
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I'm implementing per app settings saving in libgnomescan using gconf. I
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/desktop/gnome/scan/%apps%/%key% ?
other ?
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Just rewrite sticky note using Vala, you will make some users happy
rather than poisoning d-d-l with flames. :)
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Can you point some links about pulse ? There is tons of noise while
searching for "pulse project tracker".
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hi,
I do fully agree with Murray. We, gnome dev, are mailing interacting
with SVN. That's enough :). I really dislike managing my software via a
web interface (be it launchpad or Gna! or wathever), because that's
always out of sync.
I see few sources of "informations" about a project : mainly svn
Hi,
> Perhaps it is just because 'infrastructure' means something different
> to everyone. To me it is clearly the usage of SVN, Mango, CMS, etc
> (not the gtk+, lib*).
There is no confusion between plateform (gtk+, lib*) and infrastructure
(hosting, etc.)
> On the other hand, having d-d-l is so
Hi everyone,
I do fully agree with Paolo. Making project hosting more automatic and
more consistent would be so nice. For gnome-scan, i still didn't updated
to latest gnome.org theme nor latest gnome-scan version. I just been
able to install-module for the first time last weeks (thanks to
sysadmin
Hi,
Welcome to gnome developer community. Thanks for willing to
contribute :)
Here is one project for you : i call it yet "libgnocr" but you'll be
free to choose the name. This is a library providing a consistent API
for OCR within Gnome. The idea is that, combined with Gnome Scan, this
library a
Salut Nicolas,
Sounds interesting, but the website lakes mandatory screenshots ;)
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Hi,
Running Gutsy, the mouse-properties capplet does have a touchpad tab.
But the mockup drops it. Unless this is planned, this is a regression.
Otherwise the touchpad tab is ubuntu specific.
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There is no touchpad tab in mouse capplet. Is this planned ?
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Would be nice to have tabbed metacity with single instance app, allowing
Epiphany, Gimp, Abiword, inkscape to have transparent tab interface.
Opera is right when it put the tabs *above* content (like adress bar,
etc.). I really think that tabbed browsing in epiphany, firefox and such
is just a
Hi,
I do fully agree with you. I have at least 4 apps having both launcher
+taskbar+notification icon : Evolution, liferea, empathy (yes, it's a
service, but) and xchat-gnome. This is a waste of panel space !
I'm wondering when would this be merged !? I have three times the same 4
informations !
Hi John,
> Do you think i should propose Vinagre for 2.20?
Well, i guess that's a bit late for 2.20, but we might talk for 2.22
inclusion :).
I think vinagre is a bit like gnome-scan, but with less unstable
dependencies. I suggest there is too choices for you : either be
included as module, or
Hi,
That's my first mail to this flamewar, i vote for inclusion of empathy.
> That really shouldn't be a blocker.
Empathy does not aim to replace xchat-gnome (yet). This discussion is
only about empathy inclusion at all. Yet it is possible to connect to
IRC using telepathy, but empathy is far f
Hi,
I vote for. I'm also wondering how much extra code this will require for
software to use this.
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Hi,
In Gnome Scan, i generate ChangeLog using svn2cl. See
http://svn.gnome.org/svn/gnome-scan/trunk/Makefile.am and ChangeLog:
target. I also generate TODO from anjuta TODO.tasks. Note that
generating ChangeLog makes it lag one commit behind. You have to commit
and then update the ChangeLog.
Anyw
Hi,
When i log off/log in i got the following applet failing loading :
* Trash
* Mixer
* MultiLoad (i guess system monitor)
* Deskbar
I'm running updated gutsy.
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This look very good ! You rock !
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Congratulation !
This is very nice and informative. I'm pretty excited about migrating to
Gtk+ 2.12. Waiting for Gtk news :)
Cheers
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Hi,
As a developer of one of those alpha module (gnome-scan), i feel quite
concerned by your proposal. However, i don't see the real change for me.
Since gnome-scan is published in some distros, i don't fill like
gnome-scan is underestimated …
Anyway, that's always good to hear that i should not
Hi,
The problem before integration is that gnome-scan 0.5 is a rewrite. I do
not yet have a full featured version of Gnome Scan for Gnome :S.
Luckily, gnome scan has been accepted for Google SoC 2007, so i expect
great improvement on Gnome Scan.
Gnome Scan NG is based on alpha technologies such a
Hi,
> e.g. it's polling. I don't suppose there's any way to avoid this, it
> only will happen when the scanner is plugged in and powered on.
How to do without polling in user space ?
> So here's what I would do
> [snip]
> What do you think?
That's really nice !!! Also, patching sane_get_devices
Wow, very nice ! Keep up the good work ;)
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Hi all,
Thanks to Marc-André, here is the link to his draft for a Desktop sound
API : http://etudiant.epita.fr/~lureau_m/ds-0.1/
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Hi,
I do fully agree with you. The problem is the implementation choice and
who will implement it. Marc-André Lureau made a proposal for a desktop
sound library for freedesktop (in C).
Can't recal the URI
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Hi,
What's up on the sound system front for Gnome ? Since Marc-André Lureau
has been kidnapped by Nokia, GSmartMix development has be stopped :| The
same apply to desktop sound library.
So, will gnome 2.20 play nice sound when disk is burn, sound volume
increased, mail received/sent, new RSS item
Hi,
Does libusb allow to lock device ? Does libusb actually access a device
locked by another process ?
About usb-only. It's up to you to implement different devices and
protocols.
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Hi,
In fact, imcapd is going to be a HAL add-on, but registering dbus call
in order to reclaim/release device. Donald, can you confirm that ?
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> > scannerbuttonsd from SANE CVS use libusb for buttons handling, would
> > be nice to have it as an hal add-on.
>
> Yes, I totally agree with this. Email me if you need any help with the
> HAL bits.
This would be nice, but is this possible without owning the device ?
This is the main diff
Hi,
This is a true problem i don't really know how to solve. Luckily, SANE
people have just commited fdi generator to SANE CVS. So we should have
proper device detection in the next release. However, this does not
solve sharing and button event handling.
The problem with addon is : to bind to SAN
Hi,
> which time constraints exactly do not fit, and why?
Afaik, gnome-scan was supposed to continue its development in order to
be ready (at least useful) for 2.20. However, i just restarted
gnome-scan from scratch for 3 days. So i wonder what will be available
for Gnome 2.20, and especially for
Hi,
Well, according to Roadmap, GnomeScan seems to be one of the highlight
of Gnome 2.20. GnomeScan got its repo since less than a week. Waiting
for this repos, i designed GnomeScan (see
http://live.gnome.org/GnomeScan/Spec and
http://live.gnome.org/GnomeScan/API ).
In the meantime two other rela
Hi,
I also like this design. A Mail service, a RSS service, etc. makes sens.
This allow to launch the service at startup, then a notification area
icon can point new mail/rss and without launching the mail client. If
user want to see Mail/RSS, then he launch the mail client.
The same goes for IM
Hi,
Note that the new migration assistant available in Ubuntu Feisty Fawn
Herd 4 migrate 'My Music' to ~/Music, etc.
I do not like the idea of virtual folder. A nice feature in iTunes is
the nice renaming of files.
I wonder if we should implement an extended special forlder system that
automatic
Hi,
I second you. Vinicious do a really great job. We must distribute that.
People are to see some code file (especially php, python, perl and other
ready to use script).
Just imagine someone without any clue about PHP programming, but willing
to install dotclear or wordpress on its personnal web
Hi,
I really like the Tango mockup. Especially the compact one. I also think
that most tool bars might go at end of the menubar. This will reduce
grey area at right of windows.
I second your request for a subtitle or something more semantic like
"app_label" and "document_label" like Steven sugges
Hi,
> If Directory names are localized in the GUI do it really matter what
> they are called in the filesystem? I mean the whole Unix file hierarchy
> is essentially English as it is.
ACK, The problem is how far are that directory translated in the GUI. In
file chooser,t he "Desktop" folder is tr
Hi,
Anjuta also propose ~/Projects, gnome-user-share use ~/Public, and
apache use ~/public_html (locally, i use ~/WWW). etc.
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> Just last week I got a bug report and a patch for this in Sound Juicer.
> It hard-codes the default location to save files as ~/Music/. Now, my
> question is this: do I commit this, or do we need a more powerful system
> that handles i18n? I'm sure a Persian GNOME user would not like their
Hi,
> It's more usable that your proposal (get someone to start something from
> scratch) as it exists, so I don't see your point. Elisa has exactly the
> same goals as the Apple and Microsoft media centres.
Hi, my proposal was just a braindump, useful in case no project were up.
Since Elisa is
Hi,
> You may be interested in the Elisa media centre project:
> http://www.fluendo.com/elisa/
Thanks ! That's exactly what i was looking for. However, that's not very
usable yet.
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Hi all,
With the integration of Gnome media shortcut in Totem and Rhythmbox and
appleir driver for Apple Remote, i was able to play with Apple Remote
and rhythmbox.
However, Gnome does not have a kind of media center. What do you think
about such software ?
Gstreamer going mature, it would be ve
Hi,
I agree. That's true especially since the control center include also
system tools which are use often, unlike capplets (like vino, fonts,
etc.).
Give me back the system tools menu category ! (Note, that may be a bug
for ubuntu only).
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Why not provide directly video stream ? Then, use totem-plugin and you
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> We have to crack the code just to get things to
> work. Why not create our own. That is my ultimate idea here.
Héhé ! You're not the first to say that. "If two solution does not
interoperate, then create a third one to replace them all". And you end
up with three solutions :).
Really, GT
Hi,
> I have used the html2xml.py to generate a .devhelp for svnbook, then I
> can browse the whole svnbook in the devhelp :)
Hey, that would be nice to have -doc-devhelp package or even -devhelp
pacakge e.g. sane-devhelp in distribution !
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I do fully agree with you. Linux Mint include a kind of slab menu which
include the traditionnal categories.
See :
http://linuxmint.com/pictures/screenshots/bianca-2.2-beta014/08.png
(server lag due to beta release).
Anyway, i find the menubar the most usefull and well designed menu i
ever s
Hi,
> 2) Save in a custom xml format file in ~/.gnome2/color_schemes.xml
> (similar to the way the gnome background manager saves the current
> background settings)
I find this solution quite good. (Especially if that's similar to
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> Is it reasonable if we talk about this in the "Looking Forward to GNOME
> 2.20" section of our 2.18 release notes?
Yes, Of course.
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Hi,
I'm the developer of Gnome Scan. Let me answer objections.
1. I sent a request for SVN Repos a few hours ago. I used gna!
hosting waiting for Gnome SVN.
2. Gnome Scan now have translation for arabic (0.4.0.2 release).
3. Gnome Scan provide doc (using gtk-doc) for libgno
Hi,
I really wanted this feature for some months. Thanks for that job ! Also
some screenshots would be cool.
> Are there any use cases as to why this is better than the menus?
A menu longer that 10 entry is very painful. Often, Gnome properties
menu is about 20 entry when you install some additi
I fully agree with your proposition. Are you going to implement it if
accepted ?
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> 1) Tesseract-OCR software has been released under Apache License 2.0
I guess it will fit well with LGPL.
GLib is desktop agnostic. GLib is used in arts (KDE).
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Hi,
As you know, i completely agree about your project. That would be
amazing to include OCR features in Gnome for 2.20, just as Abiword
plugin.
About the API. It would be nice to provide a simple API that also allow
advanced tune of the OCR process. That may be done with just a few
helpers func.
Hi,
I fully agree with you. Neither OS X nor Windows® ask such redundant
password. Why asking another password ? Isn't pam auth secured enough ?
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Don't forget to close
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=316007 . :)
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Hi,
I fully agree with you. I must point the GSmartMix project which is
based on gstreamer and allow fine mix between app. If nautilus-cd-burner
was able to simply play a sound at the end to the burn process, it must
do that in a consistent fashion that allow a desktop mixer to
dynamically mix the
Hi,
So, that's a very important point for GnomeScan. Do you advice me to
release the GnomeScan 0.3 release for Gnome 2.17.1 and really enter the
Gnome cycle or continue alone ? I can fix some bugs and distcheck for
tomorow if you want.
The 0.3 release add basic mass acquisition support and multip
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> Pretty neat looking. At first blush, there seems to be a lot of
> dependency on the mouse. I'm curious what your plans are for
> keyboard-only access?
Right. We completely ignore a11y. I think that's a mistake. When i
thought about such Topaz design, i tried to forget existing desktop
Hello,
Why should Gnome 3 look and behave like Gnome 2 ? Isn't Gnome 3 the
opportunity to make deep changes ?
Something really cool in Gnome 2 is that since the beginning, it has a
lot evolved but still inside a defined vision of the way to use a
desktop. Gnome 3.0 shouldn't just break the API. I
That would be nice to have a gnome-topaz mailing list for such
braindump.
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I don't understand why share a scanner per user. If multiple session are
open. Do we see multiple scanner in avahi ? That does not make any
sense !
I don't want to be crappy, but i feel sane people behavior similar XF86
people. Trust me, they will *never* accept such patch. They didn't eve
Don't know. Just know that it failed on July.
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> Ideally, you just patch gnome-hardware-manager [1] to share the scanner,
> e.g. the g-h-m UI exposes an option in the UI
>
> [ ] Share scanners on the network
The problem is : addon has to configure saned (which is systemwide) in
order to share devices. And that need a xinetd restart or s
I know. I'll wait for the massive SVN migration.
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>
> http://people.freedesktop.org/~david/talks/dynamic-device-handling-OLS-2006.pdf
Whaoo ! This pdf is so exciting ! 8D
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> Suggest to just use a HAL addon for the D-BUS service, it's designed to
> do exactly this kind of thing.
I completely agree. I said "dbus-service" because i didn't investigate
enough in hal to see what is possible. I'm glad to see that such feature
exists.
I wonder if this HAL addon will be
Hello,
> The first steps towards inclusion into GNOME (blessed or not) would be
> to move GNOME scan to the GNOME infrastructure (CVS, and bugzilla).
I submit a request for a SVN Repo and a gnome.org account few weeks ago.
Still nothing about both. I would like to avoid using CVS for a
migration
Hi,
> Thanks... I will try it out this weekend. If all goes well, I will add
> it to GARNOME so others can play with it an provide feedback.
Wow ! Nice ! Thank you ! :D
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> Where is the source???
I pointed the current projet homepage :
http://home.gna.org/gnomescan/index . Follow the "projet page" link and
you'll be lead to SVN. You can also use tarballs from
http://home.gna.org/gnomescan/download .
However, i released a 0.2.3 (including deutsch translatio
Hello,
> I am curious to know what the word "flegita" means. Searches using
> google and dictionaries in three languages didn't turn up anything which
> looked relevant.
Good question. :) flegita is an esperanto word that mean "cured".
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> I sure do! please keep up the hard work, this project got me really
> excited.
Héhé :)
I wrote a RoadMap in the Wiki.
http://live.gnome.org/GnomeScanning#head-39b656e3f4fce8abe4bf0da2cee994cffa9b90b8
I'm currently packaging gnomescan for debian/ubuntu.
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Since march, i'm designing and developping a Gnome Scan infrastructure.
See http://home.gna.org/gnomescan/index and Google "gnome scan" search
result in general. I've been sponsored by Google do work on this project
this summer. Mentored by Vincent Untz.
The project is far from integr
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