Re: Solution for OEMs/Gnome

2006-04-13 Thread Daniel Carrera
Brian Cameron wrote: Since it sounds like people are mucking around with editing their .gconf files by hand, why not write a script to do this work and attach it to bug 166623. http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=166623 Then we could probably ship it and there you go. Hi Brian. If it we

Re: Solution for OEMs/Gnome

2006-04-13 Thread Daniel Carrera
I'd just like to say that Shaun's description is right on the mark. I couldn't have summarized the state of Gconf and Sabayon so well. Best, Daniel. Shaun McCance wrote: I see that you've already found Sabayon to be a good solution, but just for information's sake: Using gconf-editor is a rea

Re: Solution for OEMs/Gnome

2006-04-13 Thread Daniel Carrera
Elijah Newren wrote: Daniel, Thanks for all your patience. I see from another email that sabayon has worked for you, which is great. That makes your whole below email sounds like perfect marketing material for sabayon now. :-) Please keep letting us know where any other warts are so we can f

Re: System-wide settings for the panel?

2006-04-13 Thread Daniel Carrera
Daniel Carrera wrote: I don't know which parts are interesting, so could I just do this: gconftool-2 --dump /apps/panel > /usr/share/gconf/schemas/panel-default-setup.entries Well, that didn't work. But the sabayon solution ("Use this profile for all users") did

Re: Solution for OEMs/Gnome

2006-04-13 Thread Daniel Carrera
Daniel Carrera wrote: In the dialog that you see after clicking the Users button, there is a "Use this profile for all users" checkbox. I assume that applies to all future users too. I'll try it. Give me a few minutes, my laptop's "aptitude" is acting up. Yes,

Re: Solution for OEMs/Gnome

2006-04-13 Thread Daniel Carrera
Murray Cumming wrote: Have you seriously tried sabayon yet [1], Yes, but I'm happy to take another look. In the dialog that you see after clicking the Users button, there is a "Use this profile for all users" checkbox. I assume that applies to all future users too. I'll try it. Give me a fe

Re: Solution for OEMs/Gnome

2006-04-13 Thread Daniel Carrera
Christophe Fergeau wrote: You were told at the beginning of this thread that such oem customizations were unfortunately something that still needed work... Well... I've been told many times on this thread that it's easy. I have no problem with it needing work. I don't expect Gnome to be perfec

Re: System-wide settings for the panel?

2006-04-13 Thread Daniel Carrera
Vincent Untz wrote: I would be very grateful if someone could tell me how I can change the Gnome global panel settings (in particular, add/remove icons and menu entries) so that any new users get the settings I pick. Assuming you're using Ubuntu, you need to modify /usr/share/gconf/schemas/pane

Re: Solution for OEMs/Gnome

2006-04-13 Thread Daniel Carrera
Frederic Ruaudel wrote: Hi Daniel, I'm not sure it is exactly what you are looking for, but maybe these 3 articles from redhat magazine can help you. I'd like to add an icon to the panel so that when a new user is created he sees the new icon. Sounds simple, no? Thank you for trying thou

Re: Solution for OEMs/Gnome

2006-04-13 Thread Daniel Carrera
Stanislav Brabec wrote: Gconf seems like an incredibly complicated way of adding an icon. And it doesn't seem to work at all. There is no connection between what I see on gconf-editor and the icons I see on my desktop. Yes, for panel it is true. But there is one chance, much simpler with GNOME

Re: Solution for OEMs/Gnome

2006-04-13 Thread Daniel Carrera
Chipzz wrote: For .gconf you should prefer root's gconf database (but I still see a problem, that such customization is overwritten by a subsequent packages update, at least with the default gconf path). It should be pointed out that for debian (and I think also ubuntu, which is what he is usin

Re: Solution for OEMs/Gnome

2006-04-12 Thread Daniel Carrera
Stanislav Brabec wrote: They are: /apps/panel/default_setup/applets and /apps/panel/applets. I see it. I also see /apps/panel/default_setup/objects. But I don't see a way to change what's there. Adding an icon means adding a new object and I can't see a way to do that from gconf-editor. Also,

Re: Solution for OEMs/Gnome

2006-04-12 Thread Daniel Carrera
Stanislav Brabec wrote: If you will start gconf-editor as a root, you are able to change all these settings for all users. It's easy and intuitive to define here most aspects of GNOME (well, except default panel, which is extremely unintuitive here). But the things I want to define are not on t

Re: Solution for OEMs/Gnome

2006-04-12 Thread Daniel Carrera
Stanislav Brabec wrote: Thanks to all who gave suggestions. One of the suggestions turns out to work quite well: 1. Configure Gnome just the way I want it. 2. sudo cp ~/.g* /etc/skel Af least for .gconfd it is a bad idea. [snip: also .gconf and .gnome2_private] Ok, how about just ~/.gnome2

Solution for OEMs/Gnome

2006-04-11 Thread Daniel Carrera
Hello, Thanks to all who gave suggestions. One of the suggestions turns out to work quite well: 1. Configure Gnome just the way I want it. 2. sudo cp ~/.g* /etc/skel When the user receives the new computer, he'll get all the Gnome configuration autmatically. Better yet, I can do the same thi

Re: Gnome is a problem for OEMs

2006-04-11 Thread Daniel Carrera
Jeff Waugh wrote: Definitely look at Sabayon, Pessulus and the System Administration Guide [1]. In another email I explained the problems I had with Sabayon. I'll read the administrator's guide. Thank you for the link. It would really, really help us if you could document some of the use ca

Re: Gnome is a problem for OEMs

2006-04-11 Thread Daniel Carrera
Hello Andrew, I am glad to learn that you want to support Linux on the PCs that you sell. :) Sabayon is one piece of software that is designed to do the configuration you want on a single PC. I'll try anything. I do want this to work. I downloaded Sabayon but I couldn't compile it. The co

Gnome is a problem for OEMs

2006-04-11 Thread Daniel Carrera
Hello, I work for an OEM that eagerly wants to sell Linux computers. I've spent all afternoon trying to figure out how I, as an OEM, can configure Gnome before giving it to a user. I just want to change some icons on the panel and maybe a menu entry. After exhaustive search, I can only concl

System-wide settings for the panel?

2006-04-11 Thread Daniel Carrera
Hello, I've been trying to figure out how to change the system wise settings for the Gnome panel (e.g. add/remove icons). I can't find this anywhere. All the documentation around is for the end-user, not for admins. I've searched the list archives and all I could find was references to this q