[Fwd: Nautilus]

2005-12-21 Thread Shane O'Connor
Sorry, I originally posted this to the wrong list ;) Thanks Shane -- === http://blogs.sun.com/roller/page/shane/ === --- Begin Message --- Heya, I recently started looking at gnome2.12 builds (moving on to 2.13 now) and I j

Re: Browser Mode by Default [Was: Nautilus]

2005-12-21 Thread Shane O'Connor
Hi, I didn't mean to open a can of worms ;) The only reason I posted was because quite a few users have asked me recently why the default is spatial, all of whom don't like it. Maybe they have to get used to it but personally think this feature doesn't endear itself to most point and click users.

Re: Browser Mode by Default [Was: Nautilus]

2005-12-22 Thread Shane O'Connor
Hi, On Wed, 2005-12-21 at 16:57, William Jon McCann wrote: > Hi Jeff, > > Jeff Waugh wrote: > > ... and yet users will still ask: "What are all these windows doing all over > > my screen?" -> *that* is the big scary thing staring them right in the face. > > So, this gets to the heart of the ques

Re: Browser Mode by Default [Was: Nautilus]

2005-12-22 Thread Shane O'Connor
On Wed, 2005-12-21 at 18:32, Pat Suwalski wrote: > Shane O'Connor wrote: > > I didn't mean to open a can of worms ;) The only reason I posted was > > because quite a few users have asked me recently why the default is > > spatial, all of whom don't like it. >

Re: Another way to solve the Spatial vs. Navigational debate

2005-12-22 Thread Shane O'Connor
On Thu, 2005-12-22 at 00:24, John (J5) Palmieri wrote: > As a new user how do I know what I want? New users want simplicity and spatial mode is definitely not simplicity ;) > I haven't used either yet. As > a power user I know how to change the default so first login dialogs are > really not

Re: [Fwd: Nautilus]

2005-12-22 Thread Shane O'Connor
I think you're kina missing the point here - I don't think anyone doubts there are ways to have spatial behave nicely (middle-click, tree-view, etc) but the problem is that new, novice or even experienced windoze point and click users (i.e. non-technical) will not know or be bothered to learn these

Re: [Fwd: Nautilus]

2005-12-22 Thread Shane O'Connor
Hi Rienout, On Thu, 2005-12-22 at 09:30, Reinout van Schouwen wrote: > Shane, > > Op Thu, 22 Dec 2005 08:48:25 +, schreef Shane O'Connor: > > > this is gonna be the biggest seller for Gnome. > > > ...if we want to get people to shift from Windoze... >

Re: [Fwd: Nautilus]

2005-12-22 Thread Shane O'Connor
Hi Reinout, > (A small request: please stop intentionally misspelling 'Windows'. It > doesn't help with making this thread appear as a grown-up discussion.) Sorry, force of habit (which I should really break) ;) > > I am trying not to get entangled in a rehash of the spatial vs. > navigational

Re: Browser Mode by Default [Was: Nautilus]

2005-12-22 Thread Shane O'Connor
On Thu, 2005-12-22 at 14:20, Pat Suwalski wrote: > Shane O'Connor wrote: > >>In all fairness, do you expect that the ones who like spatial would ask > >>why browser isn't default? > > > > Perhaps, but in all the time we had browser as the default I ne

Re: Browser Mode by Default [Was: Nautilus]

2005-12-23 Thread Shane O'Connor
Hi, On Fri, 2005-12-23 at 08:38, Eric Larson wrote: > Yet, users have also been exposed to the world wide web (which I doubt > anyone would argue has not been successful reaching critical mass) and > learned to handle massive amounts of data using hypertext. > > Browser mode emulates a web > bro