Re: GDM trunk will be used for GNOME 2.24.

2008-09-22 Thread Vincent Untz
Le lundi 22 septembre 2008, à 09:46 -0400, Matthias Clasen a écrit : > On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 8:19 PM, Andre Klapper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The release-team is going to use gdm trunk for GNOME 2.24. > > > > Note that most release-team members have mixed feelings. > > Entire discussion woul

Re: GDM trunk will be used for GNOME 2.24.

2008-09-22 Thread Vincent Untz
Le lundi 22 septembre 2008, à 02:19 +0200, Andre Klapper a écrit : > The release-team is going to use gdm trunk for GNOME 2.24. > > Note that most release-team members have mixed feelings. > Entire discussion would have been less frustrating if gdm developers had > been more responsible to the con

Re: GTK adjustement changes create incompatible behaviour between versions?

2008-09-22 Thread Vincent Untz
Le lundi 22 septembre 2008, à 12:24 +0200, Patryk Zawadzki a écrit : > On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 12:19 PM, Thomas H.P. Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> Can we get a precise list of affected applications? I only tripped > >> over Inkscape so far but that's not part of GNOME and we'll likely

Re: GTK adjustement changes create incompatible behaviour between versions?

2008-09-20 Thread Vincent Untz
Le vendredi 19 septembre 2008, à 09:17 -0400, Matthias Clasen a écrit : > I don't see any way around discussing this with the GTK+ team before > taking any decisions. I was hoping this would be discussed on gtk-devel-list and that a decision would have been taken there :/ > If you think this is a

Re: GTK adjustement changes create incompatible behaviour between versions?

2008-09-19 Thread Vincent Untz
Le vendredi 19 septembre 2008, à 10:36 +0200, Vincent Untz a écrit : > Le vendredi 19 septembre 2008, à 00:36 +0200, Vincent Untz a écrit : > > Le jeudi 18 septembre 2008, à 21:53 +0200, Kjartan Maraas a écrit : > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] share]$ find . -name *.ui | xargs grep page

Re: GTK adjustement changes create incompatible behaviour between versions?

2008-09-19 Thread Vincent Untz
Le jeudi 18 septembre 2008, à 22:25 -0400, Matthias Clasen a écrit : > On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 4:36 AM, Sebastien Bacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Would it be possible to reconsider this change? That's somewhat a > > compatibility breakage and will create issues in lot of softwares. > >

Re: GTK adjustement changes create incompatible behaviour between versions?

2008-09-19 Thread Vincent Untz
Le vendredi 19 septembre 2008, à 00:36 +0200, Vincent Untz a écrit : > Le jeudi 18 septembre 2008, à 21:53 +0200, Kjartan Maraas a écrit : > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] share]$ find . -name *.ui | xargs grep page_size > > You should look for glade files too, I guess. I've run this on

Re: Updated GNOME 2.24 Showstopper Review

2008-09-18 Thread Vincent Untz
Hi, Here's a reminder about some showstoppers :-) I won't do a mail as good as Andre's mails (especially since I didn't update the status), but well, that should be enough. First, let's start with some new showstoppers: gvfsd-trash crashed with SIGSEGV in g_main_context_dispatch() http://bugzill

Re: GTK adjustement changes create incompatible behaviour between versions?

2008-09-18 Thread Vincent Untz
Le jeudi 18 septembre 2008, à 21:53 +0200, Kjartan Maraas a écrit : > [EMAIL PROTECTED] share]$ find . -name *.ui | xargs grep page_size You should look for glade files too, I guess. Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. ___ desktop-devel-l

Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24?

2008-09-18 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mercredi 17 septembre 2008, à 17:23 -0400, Willie Walker a écrit : > Well...hmm...if I read the answers correctly, I think what I'm hearing > is that there are a lot of great ideas, but they aren't done yet. If > this is the case, then I think this sounds like a regression. I see nobody ju

Re: GDM version used for GNOME 2.24?

2008-09-17 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mercredi 10 septembre 2008, à 09:39 -0400, Willie Walker a écrit : > Hi: > > I asked this earlier, but I might have missed the response. Have the > accessibility issues been resolved with the new GDM? In particular, > does accessible login still work and do the keyboard/mouse/dwell > ges

Re: Debian-specific patches for the GNOME packages

2008-09-11 Thread Vincent Untz
Le jeudi 11 septembre 2008, à 16:16 +0200, Patryk Zawadzki a écrit : > On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 3:52 PM, Luis Villa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 2008/9/11 Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> Le jeudi 11 septembre 2008 à 09:01 -0400, Luis Villa a écrit : > >>> Is anybody regularly reviewing/

Re: Debian-specific patches for the GNOME packages

2008-09-11 Thread Vincent Untz
Le jeudi 11 septembre 2008, à 10:54 +0200, Josselin Mouette a écrit : > Hi guys, > > it was already requested by a few people in the GNOME community to have > a quick access to all patches distros apply. Since we now have a much > better interface than the direct access to our svn repository, I th

Re: Bump gtk-vnc dependency

2008-09-08 Thread Vincent Untz
Le lundi 08 septembre 2008, à 15:40 +0100, Bastien Nocera a écrit : > On Mon, 2008-09-08 at 16:38 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote: > > Le vendredi 05 septembre 2008, à 11:27 -0300, Jonh Wendell a écrit : > > > Hi, folks. > > > > > > Can I update vinagre depen

Re: Bump gtk-vnc dependency

2008-09-08 Thread Vincent Untz
Le vendredi 05 septembre 2008, à 11:27 -0300, Jonh Wendell a écrit : > Hi, folks. > > Can I update vinagre dependency on gtk-vnc to 0.3.7, which was released > today[1]? > > This release fixes two vinagre bugs: > > - Support for scaling down[2]: I have a patch prepared for Vinagre since > June,

Re: GNOME 2.24 Showstopper Review

2008-09-01 Thread Vincent Untz
Le lundi 01 septembre 2008, à 14:04 +0200, Sebastian Pölsterl a écrit : > Andre Klapper schrieb: > > GNOME 2.24.0 release is on September 22 (see [1]), and we still have > > enough 2.24 blocker bugs (and other bugs of course) to fix for > > everybody! Take a look, test & help out, clean up our plat

Re: Last of libgnomeprint dialog in GNOME

2008-08-11 Thread Vincent Untz
Le lundi 11 août 2008, à 13:01 +0100, Ghee Teo a écrit : > Hi, > > I found that ghex2 and gnome-dictionary (part of gnome-utils module) as > in 2.23.4 tarballs still > uses the obsoleted libgnomeprintui dialog, does anyone whether this is > being worked on for > GNOME 2.24 release or not to be

Re: pygtkosurceview branched for GNOME 2.22

2008-08-10 Thread Vincent Untz
Le dimanche 10 août 2008, à 01:01 +0200, Gil Forcada a écrit : > Is there any mistake in DL or pygtksourceview isn't already there? > > In that case, it has to be in extras or in some set of a GNOME release? It doesn't contain any translatable string, AFAIK. Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont

Re: libcanberra as an external dependency

2008-08-07 Thread Vincent Untz
Le jeudi 07 août 2008, à 19:08 +0200, Lennart Poettering a écrit : > On Thu, 07.08.08 12:52, Joe Marcus Clarke ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > Ross Burton wrote: > >> On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 12:25 -0400, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote: > >>> While esd may be considered old, it's not exotic. It is THE sou

Re: libcanberra as an external dependency

2008-08-07 Thread Vincent Untz
Hi, Le jeudi 07 août 2008, à 11:59 -0400, Joe Marcus Clarke a écrit : > It seems to me there is a fundamental problem with adding libcanberra as > an external dependency. It currently only supports ALSA and pulseaudio > audio output. However, the default sounds daemon for GNOME is still >

Re: random revision control proposal

2008-08-06 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mercredi 06 août 2008, à 19:54 -0400, Colin Walters a écrit : > On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 7:51 PM, Vincent Untz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > We only use tarballs for blessed external dependencies. So the vcs > > shouldn't matter. > > Right, this is f

Re: random revision control proposal

2008-08-06 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mercredi 06 août 2008, à 19:34 -0400, Colin Walters a écrit : > How about a whitelist for modules that are in the external > dependencies set? I suggest: > > = Allowed = > > bzr > hg > git > svn > > = Discouraged = > > cvs > > = Banned = > > Everything else, like darcs, monotone, etc. Te

Re: "Hamster" string in the UI [was: New module decisions for 2.24]

2008-08-06 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mercredi 06 août 2008, à 15:33 +0200, Mathias Hasselmann a écrit : > Am Mittwoch, den 06.08.2008, 15:22 +0200 schrieb Patryk Zawadzki: > > 2008/8/6 Alexander Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Time Tracker > > > > I went with Time Tracking Applet. > > AFAIR there was consensus to avoid the word

Re: "Hamster" string in the UI [was: New module decisions for 2.24]

2008-08-06 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mercredi 06 août 2008, à 14:21 +0200, Patryk Zawadzki a écrit : > On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 2:05 PM, Frederic Peters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > However I wonder if it wouldn't be best to avoid using "Hamster" in > > its UI (excepted in the about dialog), just like it was asked to the > > baobab

Re: Proposed module: project hamster

2008-08-05 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mardi 05 août 2008, à 17:01 +0200, Patryk Zawadzki a écrit : > On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 4:37 PM, Frederic Crozat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > When reviewing hamster license, we discover some inconsistencies : > > - project webpage states LGPL > > - tarball contains GPLv2 > > - some files mention

Re: Proposal: enable accessibility by default for GNOME

2008-08-04 Thread Vincent Untz
Le lundi 04 août 2008, à 08:43 -0400, Willie Walker a écrit : > Yowsa! Li jumped on this one *fast* - there's already a fix and a > release in place. Way to go, Li! Just want to say that's it's great to see fixes go in so fast :-) Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. ___

Re: Gnome Games 2.22.3

2008-08-01 Thread Vincent Untz
Hi, Le jeudi 31 juillet 2008, à 23:05 +0200, Gilles Dartiguelongue a écrit : > Le lundi 30 juin 2008 à 01:19 -0500, Jason D. Clinton a écrit : > > This is the final service release for 2.22 series. We have all worked > > to back- > > port fixes from trunk; especially those that cause crashers. > >

Re: Removing libgnomeprint* from the desktop set

2008-07-28 Thread Vincent Untz
Le dimanche 27 juillet 2008, à 21:09 -0500, Mike Kestner a écrit : > On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 00:44 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote: > > > Have you figured out a way to handle this? It looks like the only > > blocking issue to remove libgnomeprint* from the desktop set is > >

Re: Proposed external dependency: clutter

2008-07-27 Thread Vincent Untz
Le lundi 28 juillet 2008, à 00:33 +0200, Vincent Untz a écrit : > Homepage: http://clutter-project.org/ > Proposal on d-d-l: > http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2008-April/msg00184.html > License: LGPLv2 or later (I believe) > > Short description: > ===

Re: Proposed module: project hamster

2008-07-27 Thread Vincent Untz
Le lundi 28 juillet 2008, à 00:31 +0200, Vincent Untz a écrit : > Homepage: http://projecthamster.wordpress.com/ > svn/git/bzr/...: http://code.google.com/p/projecthamster/source/checkout > Proposal on d-d-l: > http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2008-April/msg00138.ht

Re: Proposed module: conduit

2008-07-27 Thread Vincent Untz
Le lundi 28 juillet 2008, à 00:32 +0200, Vincent Untz a écrit : > Homepage: http://www.conduit-project.org > svn/git/bzr/...: http://svn.gnome.org/viewvc/conduit/ > Proposal on d-d-l: > http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2008-March/msg00320.html > License: ???

Re: Name vs GenericName (again)

2008-07-27 Thread Vincent Untz
Hi, Le dimanche 27 juillet 2008, à 14:39 +0100, Matthew Paul Thomas a écrit : > On Jul 25, 2008, at 2:52 PM, Vincent Untz wrote: > > Opinions? > > This would be a clever way of making the menus simpler. However, it > would be quite undesirable in two cases. You're raising

Re: Name vs GenericName (again)

2008-07-27 Thread Vincent Untz
Le dimanche 27 juillet 2008, à 10:55 -0500, Damien Grassart a écrit : > On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 7:52 AM, Vincent Untz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > In GNOME, we generally only use Name. Which mean gedit appears as "Text > > Editor" and Totem as "Mo

Re: Name vs GenericName (again)

2008-07-27 Thread Vincent Untz
Le samedi 26 juillet 2008, à 00:24 -0400, Matthias Clasen a écrit : > So your proposal is pretty similar to my earlier proposal, except that > mine adds an new 'DescriptiveName' field for the combined string: > > Type=Application > Name=Totem > GenericName=Movie Player > DescriptiveName=Totem Mov

Re: Stop shipping gtksourceview 1.8 in GNOME 2.23?

2008-07-27 Thread Vincent Untz
Le vendredi 28 mars 2008, à 17:01 +0100, Vincent Untz a écrit : > Hi, > > Is anyone opposed to the idea of not shipping gtksourceview 1.8 starting > with GNOME 2.23? We might need to remove the bindings from > gnome-python-desktop (there's pygtksourceview for gtksourceview 2

Re: Removing libgnomeprint* from the desktop set

2008-07-27 Thread Vincent Untz
Hi Mike, Le lundi 31 mars 2008, à 11:48 -0500, Mike Kestner a écrit : > Instead of continuing this discussion I should probably have invested > the time in figuring out how I can maintain stability for gnome-sharp's > users in the face of this removal. Most people won't be worried about > that, s

Proposed external dependency: libcanberra

2008-07-27 Thread Vincent Untz
Homepage: ? Proposal on d-d-l: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2008-July/msg00075.html License: LGPLv2 or later (I believe) Short description: == libcanberra is a sound event library implementing the XDG sound theming/naming specs. Summary so far: ==

Proposed external dependency: libgda

2008-07-27 Thread Vincent Untz
Homepage: http://www.gnome-db.org/ Proposal on d-d-l: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2008-April/msg00084.html License: LGPLv2 or later (I believe) Short description: == Libgda is a database abstraction layer which hides all the database backend specifics from th

Proposed external dependency: PolicyKit & PolicyKit-gnome

2008-07-27 Thread Vincent Untz
Homepage: http://hal.freedesktop.org/docs/PolicyKit/ Proposal on d-d-l: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2008-May/msg00013.html License: LGPLv2 or later (I believe) Short description: == PolicyKit is an application-level toolkit for defining and handling the polic

Proposed external dependency: clutter

2008-07-27 Thread Vincent Untz
Homepage: http://clutter-project.org/ Proposal on d-d-l: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2008-April/msg00184.html License: LGPLv2 or later (I believe) Short description: == Clutter is an open source software library for creating fast, visually rich and animated g

Proposed external dependency: WebKit/GTK+

2008-07-27 Thread Vincent Untz
Homepage: http://webkit.org/ http://live.gnome.org/WebKitGtk Proposal on d-d-l: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2008-April/msg00134.html License: LGPLv2 or later (I believe) Short description: == WebKit/GTK+ is the new GTK+ port of the WebKit, an open-source web

Proposed module: conduit

2008-07-27 Thread Vincent Untz
Homepage: http://www.conduit-project.org svn/git/bzr/...: http://svn.gnome.org/viewvc/conduit/ Proposal on d-d-l: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2008-March/msg00320.html License: ??? (GPLv2 or later?) Short description: == Conduit is a synchronization architectu

Proposed module: project hamster

2008-07-27 Thread Vincent Untz
Homepage: http://projecthamster.wordpress.com/ svn/git/bzr/...: http://code.google.com/p/projecthamster/source/checkout Proposal on d-d-l: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2008-April/msg00138.html License: GPLv3 (or is it GPLv3 or later?) Short description: == Pro

Proposed module: empathy

2008-07-27 Thread Vincent Untz
Homepage: http://live.gnome.org/Empathy svn/git/bzr/...: http://svn.gnome.org/viewcvs/empathy/ Proposal on d-d-l: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2008-March/msg00196.html License: GPLv2 or later (I believe) Short description: == Empathy consists of a rich set of

Re: GNOME 2.24 module inclusion discussion heats up

2008-07-27 Thread Vincent Untz
Hi, Le vendredi 04 juillet 2008, à 23:22 +0200, Andre Klapper a écrit : > Hey, > > a reminder that module inclusion discussion should heat up now. I'm going to send a bunch of mails for each new module proposal and also for each proposed external dependency for which we didn't reach consensus so

Re: Name vs GenericName (again)

2008-07-25 Thread Vincent Untz
Le vendredi 25 juillet 2008, à 13:56 -0400, Matthias Clasen a écrit : > On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 1:40 PM, Vincent Untz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I don't care where they get translated (either in the desktop files, or > > in some library). > > &g

Re: Name vs GenericName (again)

2008-07-25 Thread Vincent Untz
Le vendredi 25 juillet 2008, à 13:33 -0400, Matthias Clasen a écrit : > On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 1:27 PM, Vincent Untz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> Any approach that is based on programmatically combining name and > >> generic name is broken, i18n-wise. > >

Re: Name vs GenericName (again)

2008-07-25 Thread Vincent Untz
Le vendredi 25 juillet 2008, à 13:20 -0400, Matthias Clasen a écrit : > On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 8:52 AM, Vincent Untz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > > > In GNOME, we generally only use Name. Which mean gedit appears as "Text > > Editor" and Totem

Re: Name vs GenericName (again)

2008-07-25 Thread Vincent Untz
Le vendredi 25 juillet 2008, à 16:36 +0300, Karl Lattimer a écrit : > On Fri, 2008-07-25 at 15:15 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote: > > We don't use GenericName anywhere so making it editable wouldn't help us > > for now. > > It is currently used in GNOME main menu. Plus

Re: Name vs GenericName (again)

2008-07-25 Thread Vincent Untz
Le vendredi 25 juillet 2008, à 15:58 +0300, Karl Lattimer a écrit : > On Fri, 2008-07-25 at 14:52 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote: > > Hi, > > > > In GNOME, we generally only use Name. Which mean gedit appears as "Text > > Editor" and Totem as "Movie Player&quo

Name vs GenericName (again)

2008-07-25 Thread Vincent Untz
Hi, In GNOME, we generally only use Name. Which mean gedit appears as "Text Editor" and Totem as "Movie Player". Makes a lot of sense to me. However, if you install another text editor or movie player, we end up with something like "Text Editor" and "GVIM" in the menus, or "Movie Player" and "VLC

Re: GNOME 2.23.5 Released!

2008-07-25 Thread Vincent Untz
Le vendredi 25 juillet 2008, à 11:11 +, Iain Nicol a écrit : > On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:57:44 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote: > > Le mercredi 23 juillet 2008, à 16:04 -0300, Jonh Wendell a écrit : > >> Em Qua, 2008-07-23 às 20:23 +0200, Vincent Untz escreveu: > >> > GN

Re: GNOME 2.23.5 Released!

2008-07-23 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mercredi 23 juillet 2008, à 16:04 -0300, Jonh Wendell a écrit : > Em Qua, 2008-07-23 às 20:23 +0200, Vincent Untz escreveu: > > GNOME 2.23.5 Development Release > > > > > > desktop - http://download.gnome.org/desktop/2.23/2.23.5/NE

Re: Absolute paths to applications in .desktop files

2008-07-23 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mercredi 23 juillet 2008, à 01:59 +0100, Alexander Jones a écrit : > Hi > > 2008/7/23 Vincent Untz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > This is more complex than that. If I copy a launcher from the > > applications menu to my panel or desktop and then run my session in > >

Re: Proposed external dep: PolicyKit

2008-07-22 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mardi 22 juillet 2008, à 18:40 -0500, Jason D. Clinton a écrit : > On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 10:03 AM, David Zeuthen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > So maybe you just haven't tried hard enough. > > > > Fuck you. Come on. You know it's not going to help your cause to reply like this, don't you?

Re: Absolute paths to applications in .desktop files

2008-07-22 Thread Vincent Untz
Hi, Le mercredi 09 juillet 2008, à 23:28 +0200, Josselin Mouette a écrit : > Hi, > > the topic was raised on debian-devel and I think we should make sure > that we are not missing anything before someone starts a crusade about > it, so I prefer asking here. > > Currently, none of the .desktop fi

Re: External Deps: Minimal Python dependency

2008-07-22 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mardi 22 juillet 2008, à 17:56 +0200, Sebastian Pölsterl a écrit : > Hi! > > As mentioned in [1] sqlite is a blessed external dependency now. I want > to use sqlite for Deskbar-Applet, too. Because, Python 2.5 has a > built-in sqlite module I suggest increasing the minimal version to 2.5 >

Re: evolution-data-server now depends on sqlite 3.5

2008-07-22 Thread Vincent Untz
Le vendredi 18 juillet 2008, à 00:36 +1200, John Stowers a écrit : > I'm a fan of increasing the Python version to 2.5 as I depend on a > number of 2.5 only features in Conduit. I guess bumping the python > external dep version is fodder for another discussion however. Yep, please start a new thre

Re: libcanberra as external dependency

2008-07-22 Thread Vincent Untz
Hi, Le mardi 15 juillet 2008, à 01:36 +0200, Lennart Poettering a écrit : > Heja! > > I'd like to propose libcanberra as external dependency for GNOME > 2.23.x. > > It's a sound event library implementing the XDG sound theming/naming > specs. More info you find here: > > http://0pointer.de/blog

Re: Problem with intltool 0.40.0?

2008-07-22 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mardi 22 juillet 2008, à 13:27 -0400, David Zeuthen a écrit : > On Thu, 2008-07-10 at 11:14 -0400, David Zeuthen wrote: > > On Tue, 2008-07-01 at 17:01 -0400, Colin Walters wrote: > > > Options: > > > > > > o Rename intltool to intltool2, allow parallel install with intltool 1 > > > o Add backw

Re: External Deps for GNOME 2.24 - shared-mime-info from 0.22 to 0.40

2008-07-22 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mardi 22 juillet 2008, à 11:27 -0400, Matthias Clasen a écrit : > I propose to bump the recommeded version to 0.50. Sounds good to me. Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org

Re: evolution-data-server now depends on sqlite 3.5

2008-07-17 Thread Vincent Untz
Hi, Le mercredi 16 juillet 2008, à 18:41 +0200, Luca Ferretti a écrit : > According to this[1] commit, evolution-data-server now depends on > sqlite. > > Due to the increasing[2] number of project that require this library, > could we consider to officially add sqlite to external deps? Actually,

Re: thinking about our existing users

2008-07-08 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mardi 08 juillet 2008, à 17:27 -0500, Travis Watkins a écrit : > On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 4:37 PM, Vincent Untz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm a bit surprised that it breaks menu editing, though. Or does it > > "only" break stuff as in "users apparentl

Re: thinking about our existing users

2008-07-08 Thread Vincent Untz
Hi Matthias, Le mardi 08 juillet 2008, à 14:33 -0400, Matthias Clasen a écrit : > I just noticed that half the directory files in gnome-menus got > renamed for superficial reasons this cycle. > That needlessly breaks menu-editing for existing installations. Please > keep our existing users (and di

Re: GNOME 2.24 module inclusion discussion heats up

2008-07-05 Thread Vincent Untz
Le samedi 05 juillet 2008, à 14:23 +0100, Alexander Jones a écrit : > 2008/7/5 Sven Neumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > We started to use webkit for the GIMP help-browser in trunk, so I would > > very much welcome if webkit became a blessed external dependency for the > > GNOME platform. > > Why not

Re: Using vala in GNOME

2008-06-30 Thread Vincent Untz
Le dimanche 29 juin 2008, à 22:02 +, Stef a écrit : > I've been implementing some parts of seahorse (and maybe soon > gnome-keyring) in Vala. > > http://live.gnome.org/Vala > > I'm assuming this is an acceptable thing for a gnome module to do, as it > adds no new dependencies (build-time or r

Re: gnome-session proposal

2008-06-27 Thread Vincent Untz
Le jeudi 26 juin 2008, à 13:32 -0500, Diego Escalante Urrelo a écrit : > On 6/26/08, David Zeuthen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thu, 2008-06-26 at 14:16 +0200, Rodrigo Moya wrote: > > > KDE applications are still using XSMP AFAIK, so we'll need to support > > > it in some way > > > > We do?

Re: GNOME Showstopper Review

2008-06-17 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mardi 17 juin 2008, à 00:36 +0200, Andre Klapper a écrit : > > GNOME-PANEL > > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=504600 > Crash in handle_cached_dir_changed > There has not been a single rep

Re: Quick question about requirements for [possible future] module maintainers

2008-06-16 Thread Vincent Untz
Hi, Le lundi 16 juin 2008, à 09:56 +0100, Toms a écrit : > Module proposing procedure[1] requires an e-mail sent to > desktop-devel-list, which naturally means subscribing to it, so one > can answer any questions raised. > > The mailing list is quite active and most of discussions are > irrelevan

Re: minimum cairo dependency

2008-06-12 Thread Vincent Untz
Le lundi 02 juin 2008, à 16:14 -0400, Matthias Clasen a écrit : > On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 12:17 PM, Jason D. Clinton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 9:03 AM, Matthias Clasen > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> It was pointed out to me that > >> http://live.gnome.org/TwoPointTwe

Re: New late module proposal for 2.24

2008-06-12 Thread Vincent Untz
Hi Vivien, Le mercredi 04 juin 2008, à 13:40 +0200, Vivien Malerba a écrit : > I would like to propose the Libgda library (the upcoming V4 version) > as part of the 2.24 Developer Platform. Libgda is a C library which > offers an abstracted way of accessing data sources (mostly databases, > like O

Re: Getting country code from gnome clock?

2008-06-04 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mercredi 04 juin 2008, à 22:03 +0300, Antti Kaijanmäki a écrit : > OK.. sometimes it's just too obvious.. > >/etc/timezone This only works for some distribution. Look at system-timezone.c in the clock source code to get something that works on most distros. Vincent -- Les gens heureux n

Re: Getting country code from gnome clock?

2008-06-04 Thread Vincent Untz
Hi, Le mercredi 04 juin 2008, à 16:14 +0300, Antti Kaijanmäki a écrit : > Hello, > > Is there a way of getting the timezone out of gnome clock? I need in It depends what you mean by "the timezone" and "get the timezone" :-) The timezones displayed in the clock are saved in gconf: /apps/panel/ap

Re: TARBALLS DUE: GNOME 2.23.3 Development Release

2008-06-01 Thread Vincent Untz
Le samedi 31 mai 2008, à 21:04 -0400, Behdad Esfahbod a écrit : > On Sat, 2008-05-31 at 18:07 +0300, Lucas Rocha wrote: > > > Once more, a late reminder. This is so cool, isn't it? > > Actually it's not. Ideally I like to see the reminder go out Wednesday > before, so I can schedule some devel h

Re: jhbuild status for 2.23.x

2008-05-20 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mardi 20 mai 2008, à 00:15 +0200, Kjartan Maraas a écrit : > - ekiga should be tracking trunk (3.0 to be) for 2.23.x according to > damien Anybody should feel free to update the moduleset -- although we might need some new opal/pwlib tarballs? Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés.

Re: bumping libgcrypt external dependency

2008-05-14 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mercredi 14 mai 2008, à 10:50 -0400, Claudio Saavedra a écrit : > El lun, 12-05-2008 a las 21:18 +0200, Frederic Peters escribió: > > JHBuild bug 532696 is about problems between Debian subversion and > > JHBuild-built libgcrypt, and it requests libgcrypt to be bumped > > from 1.2.2 to a newer

Re: Proposed external dep: PolicyKit

2008-05-07 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mercredi 07 mai 2008, à 16:18 +0100, Richard Hughes a écrit : > I would like to propose PolicyKit[1] as an external dep for 2.26 - it's > mostly API stable[2], and is now being used as an optional dep in many > modules in gnome svn and HAL. s/2.26/2.24/ I guess? :-) Makes sense to me. Vincent

Re: Scripting the Gnome Window manager

2008-05-06 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mardi 06 mai 2008, à 10:34 -0400, Thomas Thurman a écrit : > Ysgrifennodd quixote72: > > I am a recent Ubuntu convert. One of the things I miss from my Windows days > > is the hability to define new keyboard shortcuts and use them to manipulate > > open windows (essentially moving the focused wi

Re: bump gtk-vnc dependency to 0.3.6

2008-05-06 Thread Vincent Untz
Hi, Le mardi 06 mai 2008, à 08:48 -0300, Jonh Wendell a écrit : > Hi, folks. > > Can we bump external gtk-vnc dependency to 0.3.6? I need some features > of it for Vinagre 2.23.2 (trunk). Since we're still at the beginning of 2.23, I'd say there's no big risk, so go ahead. Please update the 2.23

Re: External dep version bump: libxklavier to 3.6

2008-05-04 Thread Vincent Untz
Le jeudi 01 mai 2008, à 01:27 +0200, Christian Kirbach a écrit : > Hi, > > gnome-control-center trunk now depends on libxklavier 3.6. > It was 3.3 previously as listed on [1]. Do we agree to raise > the external dependency to 3.6? Let's do it. I've updated the wiki page and I see that you updated

Re: Proposed (kind of) new module

2008-04-23 Thread Vincent Untz
Hi Adam, Le lundi 21 avril 2008, à 13:56 -0400, Adam Schreiber a écrit : > All, > > Recently the Seahorse maintainers decided to divide our current module into > two. > > * seahorse - This module contains code pertaining to managing OpenPGP > and SSH keys, Passwords and other stored secrets, an

Re: Dependency Proposal: Clutter 0.6.2, ClutterMM 0.6

2008-04-23 Thread Vincent Untz
Le lundi 21 avril 2008, à 17:10 +0100, Emmanuele Bassi a écrit : > Clutter is already providing a (portable) integration with GTK+, Webkit, > Cairo, GStreamer and event a physics engine - and we are committed to > release the current trunk as 0.8 before GNOME 2.24 is API frozen[3]. I think people

External dep version bump: desktop-file-utils

2008-04-21 Thread Vincent Untz
Hi, We currently use desktop-file-utils 0.10, which is quite old, with a few bad bugs. I'd like to use desktop-file-utils 0.15, which is much cleaner, better, etc. Some big parts were rewritten in version 0.13 (iirc), but since then the code is quite stable and distros are shipping the new version

gnome-{desktop,menus,panel} & libwnck branched for GNOME 2.22

2008-04-17 Thread Vincent Untz
Hi all, gnome-{desktop,menus,panel} and libwnck have been branched for GNOME 2.22. The branch name is the usual gnome-2-22. Thanks, Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http

Re: WebKit release cycle and dependency request

2008-04-17 Thread Vincent Untz
Hi Alp, Le mercredi 16 avril 2008, à 08:10 +0100, Alp Toker a écrit : > As a result of the productive collaboration with the GNOME project and > after consultation with the GNOME board and release team, we've decided > to implement a stable 6-month release cycle that matches the GNOME > schedul

Re: Module proposal: Conduit for GNOME 2.24

2008-04-17 Thread Vincent Untz
Hi, Le lundi 31 mars 2008, à 23:35 +1300, John Stowers a écrit : > Hey Guys, > > On behalf of the Conduit [1] development team, I would like to propose > Conduit for inclusion in GNOME 2.24 desktop suite. Please update http://live.gnome.org/TwoPointTwentythree/Desktop (as described in http://li

Re: Module proposal: Project Hamster for GNOME 2.24

2008-04-17 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mercredi 16 avril 2008, à 12:36 +0100, Toms a écrit : > Hi guys! > > I would like to propose Project Hamster[1] for inclusion in Gnome 2.24 > desktop suite Please update http://live.gnome.org/TwoPointTwentythree/Desktop (as described in http://live.gnome.org/ReleasePlanning/ModuleProposing) T

Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: The Future of Epiphany

2008-04-09 Thread Vincent Untz
Totally forgot to reply... Le mardi 01 avril 2008, à 15:21 +0200, Christian Persch a écrit : > * Starting in time for Gnome 2.24, WebKit/GTK+ will implement a > 6-month release cycle synchronised with the Gnome release schedule. This sounds really great! Can we get more details about this WebKi

Re: cairo snapshot used for 2.24

2008-04-09 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mercredi 09 avril 2008, à 21:23 +0200, Luca Ferretti a écrit : > Il giorno mer, 09/04/2008 alle 20.13 +0200, Vincent Untz ha scritto: > > Le mercredi 09 avril 2008, à 14:01 -0400, Claudio Saavedra a écrit : > > > Hi, > > > > > > I see that we are currently

Re: cairo snapshot used for 2.24

2008-04-09 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mercredi 09 avril 2008, à 14:01 -0400, Claudio Saavedra a écrit : > Hi, > > I see that we are currently using cairo snapshot 1.5.4 for 2.24, but the > latest is 1.5.20 and according with Carl Worth in the cairo mailing > list[1], 1.6 will follow very soon, and not many changes are expected > be

Re: Bump poppler external dependency to 0.8.0

2008-04-09 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mercredi 09 avril 2008, à 19:29 +0200, Carlos Garcia Campos a écrit : > El mié, 09-04-2008 a las 19:20 +0200, Vincent Untz escribió: > > Le mercredi 09 avril 2008, à 19:18 +0200, Carlos Garcia Campos a écrit : > > > Poppler 0.8.0 is the current stable release. Many bu

Re: bump gtk-vnc dependency to 0.3.5

2008-04-09 Thread Vincent Untz
Le lundi 07 avril 2008, à 10:20 -0300, Jonh Wendell a écrit : > Hi, folks. > > Can we bump external gtk-vnc dependency to 0.3.5? I need some features > of it for Vinagre 2.23.1 (trunk). No reply so far. Good for you, go ahead :-) Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. ___

Re: Bump poppler external dependency to 0.8.0

2008-04-09 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mercredi 09 avril 2008, à 19:18 +0200, Carlos Garcia Campos a écrit : > Poppler 0.8.0 is the current stable release. Many bugs have been fixed, > annotations support has been included and the glib API has changed. > Enough? :-P For 2.22 or 2.23? Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressé

Re: New Anjuta dependency: libgda-4.0

2008-04-09 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mercredi 09 avril 2008, à 00:19 +0200, Johannes Schmid a écrit : > For now, this is just an optional dependency but when it is more stable, > it's likely that we will remove the old symbol-browser and make the new > plugin the default. However, we either need libgda-4.0 as external > dependency

Re: Session Management in 2.24

2008-04-01 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mardi 01 avril 2008, à 15:08 +0200, Xavier Bestel a écrit : > On Tue, 2008-04-01 at 14:53 +0200, Pacho Ramos wrote: > > El mar, 01-04-2008 a las 14:52 +0200, Pacho Ramos escribió: > > > I like opensuse's logout dialog: > > > http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1199/1166181703_d5580ac3a1_o.png > > >

Re: Stop shipping gtksourceview 1.8 in GNOME 2.23?

2008-03-29 Thread Vincent Untz
Le samedi 29 mars 2008, à 13:08 +0100, Karsten Bräckelmann a écrit : > On Fri, 2008-03-28 at 17:01 +0100, Vincent Untz wrote: > > Is anyone opposed to the idea of not shipping gtksourceview 1.8 starting > > with GNOME 2.23? > > Hey, we talked about that before. ;) > >

Removing libgnomeprint* from the desktop set

2008-03-28 Thread Vincent Untz
Hi, I'd like us to finally stop shipping libgnomeprint/libgnomeprintui as part of the desktop set. As far as I can tell from the jhbuild moduleset, it's only used by: + anjuta, with the scintilla editor plugin (but there's the gtksourceview editor plugin) + tomboy: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/

Stop shipping gtksourceview 1.8 in GNOME 2.23?

2008-03-28 Thread Vincent Untz
Hi, Is anyone opposed to the idea of not shipping gtksourceview 1.8 starting with GNOME 2.23? We might need to remove the bindings from gnome-python-desktop (there's pygtksourceview for gtksourceview 2.x). Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés.

Re: Session Management in 2.24

2008-03-27 Thread Vincent Untz
Le jeudi 27 mars 2008, à 04:46 +, Ted Gould a écrit : > On Tue, 2008-03-25 at 12:04 +0100, Vincent Untz wrote: > > Le mardi 25 mars 2008, à 04:01 +, Emmanuele Bassi a écrit : > > > On Tue, 2008-03-25 at 11:37 +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > Is it p

Re: Module proposal: Empathy for GNOME 2.24

2008-03-26 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mercredi 26 mars 2008, à 19:13 +0100, Mathias Hasselmann a écrit : > Am Mittwoch, den 26.03.2008, 18:31 +0100 schrieb Vincent Untz: > > Another example is gtksourceview, which is GPL, I believe. > > gtksourceview is relicensed to LGPL: > > 2007-09-11 Paolo Borel

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