Re: AT-SPI hard code freeze break request

2007-09-15 Thread Vincent Untz
Le samedi 15 septembre 2007, à 10:20 -0600, Elijah Newren a écrit : > On 9/15/07, Willie Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi All: > > > > GNOME 2.20.0 is pyatspi's first official release to the world, so we > > want to get the API as close to AT-SPI as possible. In addition, we > > want it to

Re: AT-SPI hard code freeze break request

2007-09-15 Thread Vincent Untz
Le vendredi 14 septembre 2007, à 09:42 -0700, Eitan Isaacson a écrit : > Hi. > > This is to request a freeze break on two outstanding patches: > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=467366 > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=472301 > > The first one is a fix to allow new Firefox 3 ev

Re: Fwd: hard-code freeze break request for gnome-mag

2007-09-15 Thread Vincent Untz
Le vendredi 14 septembre 2007, à 23:37 -0300, Carlos Eduardo Rodrigues Diógenes a écrit : > PS.: Sorry for the second message, I send the first with the wrong e-mail. > > Hi, > > We get some trouble with the composite extension being ignored due a > wrong value read from the DISPLAY variable. Th

Re: [Unfreeze Request] Deskbar, history extension crasher

2007-09-15 Thread Vincent Untz
Le samedi 15 septembre 2007, à 09:53 +0200, Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen a écrit : >2007/9/13, Frederic Crozat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Le mercredi 12 septembre 2007 à 21:07 +0200, Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen a > écrit : > > Hi Release Team et al. > > > > Deskbar trunk has

Re: Git vs SVN (was: Can we improve things?)

2007-09-14 Thread Vincent Untz
Le vendredi 14 septembre 2007, à 09:49 -0500, Federico Mena Quintero a écrit : > I think we should have git-daemon available for people to put stuff in > their home directories on www.gnome.org. This is *not* the same as > moving all of svn.gnome.org to Git (which is a major project that needs > t

Re: External deps: update Rarian

2007-09-14 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mercredi 12 septembre 2007, à 19:30 +0100, Don Scorgie a écrit : > Hi, > > I've just released Rarian 0.6.0 and would like to update the external > dependence for GNOME to this. > > Current version (minimum and recommended): 0.5.8 > Suggested version: 0.6.0 > > Reasons: > GNOME bug #474556 [1

Re: [Fwd: How to download the API references pages?]

2007-09-13 Thread Vincent Untz
Le jeudi 13 septembre 2007, à 16:26 -0500, Diego Escalante Urrelo a écrit : > On 9/11/07, Tim Miao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > > > This is Tim from Sun desktop team. I'm looking for some GNOME2.20 API > > references pages/packages/tarballs. Would anyone please give me a hint > > where I

Re: Orca hard code freeze break request to handle impending Firefox changes

2007-09-13 Thread Vincent Untz
Le jeudi 13 septembre 2007, à 10:33 -0400, Willie Walker a écrit : > We've been testing this patch pretty heavily, and are continuing to do > so today. All is looking well, and I will only check things in on two > conditions: 1) you guys say this is OK, and 2) continued testing shows > that the pa

Re: Orca hard code freeze break request for pychecker errors

2007-09-12 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mercredi 12 septembre 2007, à 17:03 +0200, Frederic Crozat a écrit : > Le mercredi 12 septembre 2007 à 10:52 -0400, Willie Walker a écrit : > > Hi All: > > > > In prepping for a different problem we're investigating with the Firefox > > team, we've been running pychecker on the Orca sources.

Re: Deja-vu: gtk-engines Clearlooks changes

2007-09-11 Thread Vincent Untz
[cc'ing gnome-themes-list] Le mardi 11 septembre 2007, à 10:42 -0400, Matthias Clasen a écrit : > On 9/11/07, Vincent Untz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Note there's still a ClearlooksClassic engine, for people who don't like > > the new default. &

Re: Deja-vu: gtk-engines Clearlooks changes

2007-09-11 Thread Vincent Untz
Hi Mark, Le samedi 08 septembre 2007, à 16:07 +0200, Mark Rosenstand a écrit : > Hi, > > I remember how happy I was back when GNOME found a nice looking gtk > theme and not only included it in the Desktop installation but also > enabled it by default. > > This was 2.12 or 2.14, I think. A releas

Re: Distributed SCM in Gnome (Was: Git vs SVN (was: Can we improve things?))

2007-09-11 Thread Vincent Untz
Le lundi 10 septembre 2007, à 19:18 -0700, Kevin Kubasik a écrit : > * There is a _very_ strong general opinion that Gnome should eventually > move to a DSCM system, it is really just a discussion of how and when. Hrm. I'm not sure that this statement ("_very_ strong general opinion") is true. S

Re: Request for UI break in Yelp

2007-09-04 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mardi 04 septembre 2007, à 16:12 -0500, Shaun McCance a écrit : > So, the documentation team says OK to itself. Here's the 2nd approval, then. Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@g

Re: MAINTAINERS in svn -- have it or no commit for you

2007-09-01 Thread Vincent Untz
Le samedi 01 septembre 2007, à 00:02 +0200, Olav Vitters a écrit : > > Does it also make it impossible for translators to commit? If yes, can > > we postpone this to after 2.20.0? > > Depends on what you are asking. Someone interpreted this as > "you have to be in MAINTAINERS or you cannot commit

Re: MAINTAINERS in svn -- have it or no commit for you

2007-08-31 Thread Vincent Untz
Le vendredi 31 août 2007, à 19:55 +0200, Olav Vitters a écrit : > On Sun, Aug 12, 2007 at 01:55:35AM +0200, Olav Vitters wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 08, 2007 at 12:36:28AM +0200, Olav Vitters wrote: > > > Note that the userid is really important. Otherwise ensure that the > > > E-mail address is the one

Re: Requesting UI Freeze break for gnome-panel and gnome-utils

2007-08-27 Thread Vincent Untz
Le lundi 27 août 2007, à 22:27 +0100, Emmanuele Bassi a écrit : > on a related note: there is an existing patch[1] for replacing the icon > of gnome-dictionary with the one provided by g-i-t - which would remove > the abomination I concocted with inkscape. hence, I'm requesting a break > for applyi

Re: Requesting UI Freeze break for gnome-panel and gnome-utils

2007-08-27 Thread Vincent Untz
Le lundi 27 août 2007, à 23:09 +0200, Jaap Haitsma a écrit : > Hi, > > The gnome-searchtool icon got removed from gnome-icon-theme because it > got replaced by the system-search icon. > > I've made patches for gnome-searchtool and gnome-panel to use the new icon. > > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/sh

Re: Requesting UI freeze break for Deskbar-Applet

2007-08-27 Thread Vincent Untz
Hi, Sorry for the late reply. Le vendredi 24 août 2007, à 17:50 +0200, Sebastian Pölsterl a écrit : > Hi! > > The attached patch adds a "Back to matches" button under the list of > actions (see attachment) and makes the '>' beneath matches that have > more than one action clickable to go the lis

Re: GNOME Showstopper Review.

2007-08-27 Thread Vincent Untz
Le vendredi 24 août 2007, à 13:27 +0200, Andre Klapper a écrit : > > GNOME-PANEL > > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=446183 > => crash in gtk_rc_reset_styles() > 170 dups total, 92 in the las

Re: RFC: hiding the new timezone feature in the clock applet for 2.20

2007-08-27 Thread Vincent Untz
Le lundi 20 août 2007, à 13:02 -0400, Ray Strode a écrit : > Hi, > > Since I didn't have time to fix a few things for the clock applet for > > 2.20, and I don't think anybody did it either, I think this feature is > > not ready to be used by all our users for 2.20: the UI is clearly far > > from be

RFC: hiding the new timezone feature in the clock applet for 2.20

2007-08-20 Thread Vincent Untz
Hi, Since I didn't have time to fix a few things for the clock applet for 2.20, and I don't think anybody did it either, I think this feature is not ready to be used by all our users for 2.20: the UI is clearly far from being optimal, and it's also a bit slow for reasons I've not investigated. I'

Re: GStreamer version for Gnome 2.20

2007-07-31 Thread Vincent Untz
Hi Jan, Le mardi 31 juillet 2007, à 18:08 +0200, Jan Schmidt a écrit : > Hi guys, > > I'm currently making releases of the GStreamer Core and Base Plugins > modules. (These will both be version 0.10.14). They should be out > tomorrow, once I've let the pre-releases stew a bit longer. > > It wo

Re: Start discussing module inclusions for 2.20

2007-07-31 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mardi 31 juillet 2007, à 13:46 +0300, Lucas Rocha a écrit : > Hi Andre, > > IIRC, LSR was proposed too: > > http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2007-April/msg00148.html And retracted by his maintainer (after IBM changed its strategy [1]): http://live.gnome.org/TwoPointNineteen/D

Re: Call for Release Notes

2007-07-31 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mardi 31 juillet 2007, à 12:06 +0300, Lucas Rocha a écrit : > I was planning to make an official call for Roadmap update this week. > I'll be 100% busy until wednesday (defending my mastering thesis, > wohoo!). > > Vincent, if you want (and have time) to make this call, go for it! :-) Heh. I'm

Re: Call for Release Notes

2007-07-31 Thread Vincent Untz
Le lundi 30 juillet 2007, à 20:24 -0400, Jorge O. Castro a écrit : > GNOMErs, > > It's that time of the year where you guys can show off all the work > you've been putting into your modules. > > http://live.gnome.org/TwoPointNineteen/ReleaseNotes > > At the above URL you will find the beginnings

Away from code for 3 weeks

2007-07-30 Thread Vincent Untz
Hi there, Since I really need to do some work in the next 3 weeks, I'll try to not touch any code-related thing during this period. If there's any important issue in gnome-desktop, gnome-menus, gnome-panel, gnome-session or libwnck [1], feel free to go ahead and fix things in svn. I'll review stu

Re: .so versions

2007-07-14 Thread Vincent Untz
Le samedi 14 juillet 2007, à 12:01 -0600, Elijah Newren a écrit : > On 7/13/07, Murray Cumming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I've stopped changing the --version-info in gtkmm at all since a couple > > of years ago to avoid problems, but I'd really like a simple set of > > instructions about what t

Re: Gnome panel hacking

2007-06-22 Thread Vincent Untz
Le vendredi 22 juin 2007, à 14:10 +0200, Xavier Bestel a écrit : > On Fri, 2007-06-22 at 13:03 +0100, Ross Burton wrote: > > On Fri, 2007-06-22 at 13:51 +0200, Peter Henriksson wrote: > > > A 100px button would be pretty small on the 2560x1600px TFT I wish I > > > had. :) > > > Please let it be co

Re: Gnome panel hacking

2007-06-21 Thread Vincent Untz
Le jeudi 21 juin 2007, à 18:37 +0200, Gianni Moschini a écrit : > The fixed size respect both. When you open a window, it creates a > button of 100 pixels width (in an horizontal panel) > > Each time you open a new window, it creates a 100 pixels width buttons > again, till there is no much left s

Re: Gnome panel hacking

2007-06-21 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mercredi 20 juin 2007, à 21:58 +0200, Gianni Moschini a écrit : > And now each buttons has maximum allocated space. This also fix the > issue of window title name changes. > > This is the result with only one window loaded: > http://boby.joe.free.fr/files/buttonlist.png A lot of people hate it

Re: .desktop files shipping the obsolete "Application" category

2007-06-21 Thread Vincent Untz
Le jeudi 21 juin 2007, à 11:14 +0200, Stanislav Brabec a écrit : > I already removed "Application" from all SuSE patches and spec files > (i. e. places where SuSE explicitly added it). > > I plan to reopen it after a year or so and patch remaining applications, > where upstream did not fix it. >

Re: Proposal: Replace scrollkeeper

2007-06-19 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mardi 19 juin 2007, à 18:59 +0100, Don Scorgie a écrit : > Hi, > > With the recent release of Rarian (new name for spoon) [1], I'd like to > propose replacing scrollkeeper with it and moving it to the external > dependencies moduleset. Cool! So, we don't have to change anything in any other m

Re: Gnome panel hacking

2007-06-19 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mardi 19 juin 2007, à 09:06 +0200, Gianni Moschini a écrit : > 2007/6/19, Kalle Vahlman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > http://www.davyd.id.au/articles/debugging-gnome-applets.shtml > > Thanks you for the link, I really appreciate it. > > But I can't find what I'm looking for. > > [quote] > To run

Re: Gnome panel hacking

2007-06-19 Thread Vincent Untz
Hi, Le mardi 19 juin 2007, à 08:18 +0200, Gianni Moschini a écrit : > I struggle and need some help to understand how to load the applet in > the gnome-panel here. > > I have downloaded the code of gnome-panel, and in that case I want to > edit the file located in gnome-panel/applets/wncklet/wind

Re: su/sudo wrapper

2007-05-31 Thread Vincent Untz
Le jeudi 31 mai 2007, à 13:07 +0200, Benoît Dejean a écrit : > Le dimanche 27 mai 2007 à 12:04 +0200, Vincent Untz a écrit : > > Le mercredi 23 mai 2007, à 21:22 +0200, Benoît Dejean a écrit : > > > Well, we know about the need. The point is we don't want to bless > &

Re: GNOME Roadmap Draft

2007-05-27 Thread Vincent Untz
Le vendredi 25 mai 2007, à 22:21 +0300, Lucas Rocha a écrit : > Hei Diego, > > > Just a quick thought, should GnomeGoals be considered on the RoadMap > > as dateless goals? > > I think it would be interesting to have Gnome Goals in the roadmap but > I think they must the be attached to specific r

Re: su/sudo wrapper

2007-05-27 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mercredi 23 mai 2007, à 21:22 +0200, Benoît Dejean a écrit : > Le mercredi 23 mai 2007 à 08:59 +0200, Vincent Untz a écrit : > > Le mardi 22 mai 2007, à 10:58 +0200, Benoît Dejean a écrit : > > > Thanks for your answer, but this doesn't solve my problem for 2.20. I'm

Re: su/sudo wrapper

2007-05-22 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mardi 22 mai 2007, à 10:58 +0200, Benoît Dejean a écrit : > Thanks for your answer, but this doesn't solve my problem for 2.20. I'm > looking for something stable and already widely used so it could be > proposed as External Dependency and work with it. In the past, there have always been objec

Re: [gst-devel] Why is gstreamer not an external dependency?

2007-05-22 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mardi 22 mai 2007, à 12:04 +0200, Thomas Vander Stichele a écrit : > > > > > > Definitely a good question to mull over. I don't have a good answer. > > > Maybe someone else does. > > > > Well, to me, it makes totally sense to have a multimedia framework in > > GNOME since many applications ar

Re: Why is gstreamer not an external dependency?

2007-05-22 Thread Vincent Untz
Le lundi 21 mai 2007, à 19:47 -0600, Elijah Newren a écrit : > On 5/20/07, Jaap Haitsma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Since external dependencies like hal, dbus, cairo etc. are built from > > tarballs it's much easier to build gnome with jhbuild. > > > > I was wondering why gstreamer d

Rise of the Plugins

2007-05-17 Thread Vincent Untz
Hey, It's great to see more and more applications creating a plugin architecture. However, I think it's worth discussing a bit some of the issues we're facing wrt plugins. I'm just raising three points to start the discussion, but there are probably other interesting items that are worth discussin

Re: Icons for IM programs

2007-05-17 Thread Vincent Untz
Le jeudi 17 mai 2007, à 17:20 +0200, Xavier Claessens a écrit : >Hi, > >With all new IM clients currently under development I think we should >think about some GNOME desktop integration. > >Here I suggest to move protocols and status icons to gnome-icon-theme, >like that we ca

gnome-menus branched for 2.18

2007-05-01 Thread Vincent Untz
I branched gnome-menus for 2.18. Some string changes and probably other changes will go to trunk. Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/d

gnome-panel, gnome-desktop and gnome-session branched for 2.18

2007-04-30 Thread Vincent Untz
I branched gnome-panel, gnome-desktop and gnome-session for 2.18. New development will happen in trunk. See the roadmap pages for future plans: http://live.gnome.org/RoadMap/Modules Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. ___ desktop-devel-l

libwnck branched for 2.18

2007-04-29 Thread Vincent Untz
Hi, I branched libwnck for 2.18. New development will happen in trunk. See http://live.gnome.org/RoadMap/Libwnck for our future plans. Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org ht

Re: Do you use multiple gnome-keyring keyrings?

2007-04-19 Thread Vincent Untz
Le jeudi 19 avril 2007, à 01:43, Nate Nielsen a écrit : > Jon Nettleton wrote: > > Okay well I will get moving on that. One thing that could really help > > is to start a gnome-keyring mailing list. There has been talk about one > > on and off for over a year now. It would really help concentrat

Re: gtkmm as a dependency

2007-04-10 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mardi 10 avril 2007, à 21:04, Benoît Dejean a écrit : > Le lundi 09 avril 2007 à 19:32 -0600, Elijah Newren a écrit : > > Hi, > > gtkmm is now allowed as a dependency. > > Is it only gtkmm or also the bindings for gnomevfs, gconf, etc ? All the C++ bindings that are part of the bindings suite

Re: How hard would making lists of major user-oriented changes by feature freeze be?

2007-04-10 Thread Vincent Untz
Le lundi 09 avril 2007, à 20:14, Elijah Newren a écrit : > Hi everyone, > > Quick question: How hard would it be for you (as project maintainers) > to make a list of major user-oriented changes in your module (since > the last stable release) and send it to gnome-doc-list by feature > freeze? Thi

Re: Creation of a new roadmap for GNOME

2007-04-04 Thread Vincent Untz
Hi Brian, Le mercredi 04 avril 2007, à 15:35, Brian Cameron a écrit : > > Vincent: > > > There have been some discussions in the past few weeks on how to improve > > the GNOME roadmap. The result of those discussions is a new process to > > create and maintain a GNOME-wide roadmap. > > If we ar

Re: Beagle CPU usage (was Proposed module: tracker)

2007-03-28 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mercredi 28 mars 2007, à 11:20, Federico Mena Quintero a écrit : > Another option is to add a GConf key for the limits. Right now we > have /desktop/gnome/thumbnailers//{command,enable}. We could > add "cpu_limit" and "mem_limit" under /thumbnailers. This is probably > overkill, but it would

Re: are gnome-display-properties and gnome-keyring-manager going to be replaced?

2007-03-20 Thread Vincent Untz
Le lundi 19 mars 2007, à 22:43, David Prieto a écrit : > I read in http://www.gnome.org/start/2.18/notes/C/ that seahorse is a > part of Gnome now. Since it can handle keyrings, are there plans to have > it replace gnome-keyring-manager? Will they coexist, or is seahorse just > not gonna be install

Re: Proposal to bless gnome-common as an external dependency

2007-03-16 Thread Vincent Untz
Le vendredi 16 mars 2007, à 16:51, Shaun McCance a écrit : > On Fri, 2007-03-16 at 22:21 +0100, Vincent Untz wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Did you think gnome-common was an official module? It's not :-) > > Many modules are using it, so let's just fix this small i

Proposal to bless gnome-common as an external dependency

2007-03-16 Thread Vincent Untz
Hi, Did you think gnome-common was an official module? It's not :-) Many modules are using it, so let's just fix this small issue. We can either propose gnome-common for inclusion in the desktop, or propose it for inclusion in the platform or just bless it as an external dependency. External depe

Using C++ bindings for desktop/admin/devtools modules

2007-03-16 Thread Vincent Untz
Hi all, Right now, modules in desktop/admin/devtools suites can use the python bindings. We also accept the use of gtk# for proposed modules. However, it was never really agreed whether it was okay or not to use our C++ bindings for GNOME modules. Those bindings have been rock-solid for quite som

Re: [gnome-love] GNOME Goal #3, It's time to share your love!

2007-03-07 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mercredi 07 mars 2007, à 15:49, Claudio Saavedra a écrit : > On Wed, 2007-03-07 at 13:17 -0500, Willie Walker wrote: > > 1) Is this something we need to make a freeze break request for? > > I think it's already agreed: > > http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2007-March/msg00034.h

Re: Updating our list of GNOME contributors

2007-03-06 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mardi 06 mars 2007, à 17:31, Behdad Esfahbod a écrit : > On Tue, 2007-03-06 at 22:31 +0100, Vincent Untz wrote: > > It'd be great to have the non-ascii characters in hexa, so for example: > > "Mariano Su\xc3\xa1rez-Alvarez" instead of "Mariano Suárez-Alvarez

Re: Application category in desktop files

2007-03-06 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mardi 06 mars 2007, à 15:20, Claudio Saavedra a écrit : > On Tue, 2007-03-06 at 18:42 +0100, Frederic Crozat wrote: > > > > Could you add, as suggest by Havoc, a call to desktop-file-validate so > > people check they are generating valid .desktop file ? > > Done. I've updated it it so that we

Re: Application category in desktop files

2007-03-06 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mardi 06 mars 2007, à 10:33, Frederic Crozat a écrit : > Le mardi 06 mars 2007 à 11:13 +0200, Lucas Rocha a écrit : > > Hi, > > > > This is a very nice and simple idea for Gnome Goals. Also, nice as a > > GNOME Love activity. It's a pity the idea came after code freeze. > > .desktop aren't rea

Re: Is there going to be a release of network-manager-applet for GNOME 2.18?

2007-03-02 Thread Vincent Untz
(cc'ing the NM list) Le vendredi 02 mars 2007, à 21:54, Jaap Haitsma a écrit : > Something I noticed. > > The latest release of network manager (applet) is 0.6.4 which is > already something like 9 months. AFAIK there has not been a release > since. Is there going to be a release for 2.18? Hi,

Re: Tarball generation using outdated tools (gnome-doc-utils, autotools)

2007-02-15 Thread Vincent Untz
Le jeudi 15 février 2007, à 11:44, Jan de Groot a écrit : > At this moment I'm having quite some issues when building released beta > tarballs using ./configure && make && make install. Many tarballs are > generated with outdated gnome-doc-utils and don't build without > regenerating things using g

Re: Suggestion: New Control Centre disabled by default in GNOME 2.18 (was: New Control Centre)

2007-02-13 Thread Vincent Untz
Hi Alex, Le mercredi 14 février 2007, à 01:06, Alex Jones a écrit : > Hi list > > I'd like to suggest that the new Control Center be disabled by default > in GNOME 2.18, but that it be enabled by GConf option and refined a bit > more before it's pushed onto the mainstream user. There's no need t

Re: Menu being purged from memory? Was: New Control Centre

2007-02-06 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mardi 06 février 2007, à 10:29, Richard Hughes a écrit : > On Tue, 2007-02-06 at 09:24 +0100, Vincent Untz wrote: > > What's happening, though, is that the menu is rebuilt when a .desktop > > file is added/changed/removed, and the icons are loaded only when the > > me

Re: Menu being purged from memory? Was: New Control Centre

2007-02-06 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mardi 06 février 2007, à 11:07, Wouter Bolsterlee a écrit : > 2007-02-06 klockan 09:24 skrev Vincent Untz: > > What's happening, though, is that the menu is rebuilt when a .desktop > > file is added/changed/removed, and the icons are loaded only when the > > me

Re: New Control Centre

2007-02-06 Thread Vincent Untz
Le lundi 05 février 2007, à 19:55, Federico Mena Quintero a écrit : > El lun, 05-02-2007 a las 19:19 +, Alex Jones escribió: > > It's slow. > > Yes. No one has done any profiling work on it yet. Want to start? > > It's no slower than the old panel menus, which get purged from memory > after

Re: Menu being purged from memory? Was: New Control Centre

2007-02-06 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mardi 06 février 2007, à 01:37, Richard Hughes a écrit : > On Mon, 2007-02-05 at 19:55 -0600, Federico Mena Quintero wrote: > > It's no slower than the old panel menus, which get purged from memory > > after a few minutes > > Hmm. How do you stop the menus being purged? This is in reference to

Re: Control center shell, panel and breaking compat

2007-02-05 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mardi 23 janvier 2007, à 19:22, Matthias Clasen a écrit : > On 1/23/07, Vincent Untz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Le mardi 23 janvier 2007, à 14:28, Matthias Clasen a écrit : > > > You are wrong. The breakage is that the panel simply stopped to parse > > > s

Re: New Control Centre

2007-02-05 Thread Vincent Untz
Le lundi 05 février 2007, à 23:56, Sebastien Bacher a écrit : > On lun, 2007-02-05 at 19:19 +, Alex Jones wrote: > > > Down with control centre. > > > > I want my menus back. Changing settings just isn't the quick > > in-and-out-in-5-seconds-flat job it used to be. > > Hi, > > That has alre

Re: Internationaliztion bugs

2007-02-05 Thread Vincent Untz
Hey, Le lundi 05 février 2007, à 11:19, Yair Hershkovitz a écrit : > Hi, > > I would like to get developers attention to the following 3 bugs, > which all deal with right-to-left support in Gnome. All bugs > includes proposed patches. > > This issues are of high importance for RTL languages user

Re: Time for the annual bugzilla statistics (just a tad over a month late...)

2007-02-05 Thread Vincent Untz
Le dimanche 04 février 2007, à 21:45, Elijah Newren a écrit : > Elijah Newren is some lamer who nearly dropped off the face of the > planet towards the end of last year to try to finish his > dissertation. He keeps promising he'll do stuff again sometime > soon. Weird, the Elijah Ne

Re: Control center shell, panel and breaking compat

2007-01-24 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mardi 23 janvier 2007, à 19:22, Matthias Clasen a écrit : > On 1/23/07, Vincent Untz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Le mardi 23 janvier 2007, à 14:28, Matthias Clasen a écrit : > >> You are wrong. The breakage is that the panel simply stopped to parse > >> s

Re: some more questions on the control center shell, etc

2007-01-24 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mardi 23 janvier 2007, à 21:56, Matthias Clasen a écrit : > Playing around a bit more with the control center shell, I have some > more questions: > > 1) I notice that all capplets appear in the add-to-panel dialog. > What is the idea behind that ? Do we really think that users have a > need

Re: Control center shell, panel and breaking compat

2007-01-23 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mardi 23 janvier 2007, à 14:28, Matthias Clasen a écrit : > You are wrong. The breakage is that the panel simply stopped to parse > settings.menu and hardcodes the cc shell now. No change in gnome-menus > is going to fix that... And the panel did this because settings.menu now only contains th

Re: Module decisions for GNOME 2.18

2007-01-21 Thread Vincent Untz
Le dimanche 21 janvier 2007, à 20:48, Benoît Dejean a écrit : > Le dimanche 21 janvier 2007 à 15:57 +0100, Vincent Untz a écrit : > > Hi everybody, > > > + nm-applet > > - positive feedback from the community. > > - we don't introduce an external d

Re: Application specific themable icons

2007-01-14 Thread Vincent Untz
Le samedi 13 janvier 2007, à 20:13, Nickolay V. Shmyrev a écrit : > I dislike the need to install all icons into ${datadir}/hicolor/... This made me read http://live.gnome.org/ThemableAppIcons and I'm now wondering about one thing... The path where apps install icons is $(pkgdatadir)/icons/hicolo

Re: Proposed module: anjuta

2007-01-11 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mercredi 10 janvier 2007, à 12:23, Naba Kumar a écrit : > On Tue, 2007-01-09 at 22:41 +, Rob Bradford wrote: > We have a beta release coming up in next few days that will pave the way > to our 2.x stable line. > > Now about including in GNOME 2.18 release, I agree it's probably not > wise t

Re: Proposed module: tracker

2007-01-11 Thread Vincent Untz
Hi Mikkel, Le jeudi 11 janvier 2007, à 14:11, Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen a écrit : > We have started a project called Wasabi whose goal is to come up with > cross platform specs and apis regarding desktop search and metadata > storage (two different but related goals). > > Our work is still in flu

Re: Proposed module: tracker

2007-01-11 Thread Vincent Untz
Le lundi 08 janvier 2007, à 19:33, Vincent Untz a écrit : > Information about tracker: > http://www.gnome.org/projects/tracker/ My €0.02 (sorry, I guess I will repeat some things): -1 from me, but try again for 2.20. Here are some reasons: + I see no point in including tracker now. I

Re: Proposed suite: developer tools

2007-01-11 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mercredi 10 janvier 2007, à 12:56, Tristan Van Berkom a écrit : > So for my part - I think holding back might send a message that this > thing is bigger and scarier than it really is (or should be), which is > just better coordination among related projects and better visibility > of stable rel

Re: Proposed module: devhelp

2007-01-11 Thread Vincent Untz
Le lundi 08 janvier 2007, à 19:40, Vincent Untz a écrit : > (Note: let's suppose we have a developer tools suite) > > Information about devhelp: > http://developer.imendio.com/projects/devhelp +1 from me too. I can't imagine coding without devhelp :-) Vincent -- Les ge

Re: Proposed module: seahorse

2007-01-11 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mardi 09 janvier 2007, à 08:06, Adam Schreiber a écrit : > On 1/9/07, John Stowers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I read the FAQ and I dont know how seahorse relates to > > gnome-keyring-manager?. One is keys and the other is keyrings. > > It's true that it's not that clear what the differ

Re: Proposed module: nm-applet

2007-01-11 Thread Vincent Untz
(cc'ing Dan and Robert since I'm not sure they're on d-d-l) Le lundi 08 janvier 2007, à 19:31, Vincent Untz a écrit : > You can learn about nm-applet here: > http://www.gnome.org/projects/NetworkManager/ I love NetworkManager and nm-applet. So +1 from me. I still have s

Re: Proposed module: GnomeScan

2007-01-11 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mardi 09 janvier 2007, à 00:23, Étienne Bersac a écrit : > Anyway, i'm against inclusion in Gnome 2.18. Let me explain why. Thanks, Etienne. I guess (and hope) you'll propose it for 2.20, then. Is it reasonable if we talk about this in the "Looking Forward to GNOME 2.20" section of our 2.18 re

Re: eject buttons on the places menu

2007-01-10 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mercredi 10 janvier 2007, à 13:25, Calum Benson a écrit : > On Sat, 2007-01-06 at 01:53 +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: > > Le vendredi 05 janvier 2007 ?? 17:06 +, Calum Benson a ??crit : > > > Regular context menus, for selected icons and suchlike, are still > > > best considered an expert

Re: Proposed module: gnome-main-menu

2007-01-09 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mardi 09 janvier 2007, à 17:44, Bill Haneman a écrit : > ... > > I'm rather surprised accessibility tests tell this one is better than > > the current Gnome menu. > ??? > > I am not aware of any accessibility tests on g-m-m at all. What I said > was that it should not go in until/unless acce

libwnck branched for 2.16

2007-01-08 Thread Vincent Untz
Hi all, libwnck have been branched for 2.16 (usual name: gnome-2-16). We hope to review all patches before 2.18. Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/m

Re: Update required system-tools-backends to 2.1/2.2

2007-01-08 Thread Vincent Untz
Le lundi 08 janvier 2007, à 23:50, Carlos Garnacho a écrit : > On Mon, 2007-01-08 at 19:49 +0100, Vincent Untz wrote: > > Le lundi 08 janvier 2007, à 19:28, Carlos Garnacho a écrit : > > > I've just rolled liboobs and g-s-t without the feature before the > > >

Re: Update required system-tools-backends to 2.1/2.2

2007-01-08 Thread Vincent Untz
Le lundi 08 janvier 2007, à 19:28, Carlos Garnacho a écrit : > I've just rolled liboobs and g-s-t without the feature before the > freezes are in effect, anyway it could be great to add 2.1.x as the > recommended version, but I guess that by now the features will have to > wait for 2.20... Hrm. Ho

Proposed module: devhelp

2007-01-08 Thread Vincent Untz
(Note: let's suppose we have a developer tools suite) Information about devhelp: http://developer.imendio.com/projects/devhelp Danilo's evaluation (i18n point of view): = DevHelp = No objections. Small module (62 messages) with 21 languages over 80%. No docs so no concern over gnome-doc-utils

Proposed module: monodevelop

2007-01-08 Thread Vincent Untz
(Note: let's suppose we have a developer tools suite) Information about monodevelop: http://www.monodevelop.com/ Danilo's evaluation (i18n point of view): = MonoDevelop = Strong objection. It's i18n-enabled, and uses gettext PO files for translation, which is a good thing. There seems to be a

Proposed module: anjuta

2007-01-08 Thread Vincent Untz
(Note: let's suppose we have a developer tools suite) Information about anjuta: http://anjuta.sourceforge.net/ Danilo's evaluation (i18n point of view): = Anjuta = No strong objections. Anjuta POTFILES.in hasn't been updated recently, so that might be a concern. Otherwise, there are ~1700 mes

Proposed module: glade3

2007-01-08 Thread Vincent Untz
(Note: let's suppose we have a developer tools suite) Information about glade3: http://glade.gnome.org/ Danilo's evaluation (i18n point of view): = Glade3 = No strong objections. Uses Gnome CVS, messages seem fine. 739 messages for translation, but with only 4 languages over 75%. I am hoping

Proposed suite: developer tools

2007-01-08 Thread Vincent Untz
This is a thread about the whole suite. This is not about glade3, or anjuta, or monodevelop, or devhelp. The question is: is this suite a good idea or a bad idea? Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list des

Proposed module: gnome-main-menu

2007-01-08 Thread Vincent Untz
Information about gnome-main-menu: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2006-October/msg00221.html Danilo's evaluation (i18n point of view): MISSING :-) That's our fault since it was not on the wiki page, but was proposed. And we didn't reply to Danilo when he asked. Bad release team

Proposed module: tracker

2007-01-08 Thread Vincent Untz
Information about tracker: http://www.gnome.org/projects/tracker/ Danilo's evaluation (i18n point of view): = tracker = No strong objections. It uses Gnome CVS, there is some i18n support, but it hasn't been announced for translation (so no status pages). Only 3 translations, but the file is r

Proposed module: seahorse

2007-01-08 Thread Vincent Untz
You can learn about seahorse here: http://www.gnome.org/projects/seahorse/ Danilo's evaluation (i18n point of view): = sea-horse = No strong objections. It uses Gnome CVS, is i18n-enabled, and everything seems to work fine. Based on i18n-merits, it IS recommended for inclusion. 6 translations

Proposed module: nm-applet

2007-01-08 Thread Vincent Untz
You can learn about nm-applet here: http://www.gnome.org/projects/NetworkManager/ Danilo's evaluation (i18n point of view): = NetworkManager = No objections. It uses Gnome CVS, is i18n-enabled, and everything seems to work fine. Based on i18n-merits, it IS recommended for inclusion. 23 langua

Proposed module: GnomeScan

2007-01-08 Thread Vincent Untz
You can learn about GnomeScan here: http://live.gnome.org/GnomeScan Danilo's evaluation (i18n point of view): (NOTE: Etienne wants to import the project in GNOME SVN) = gnomescan = Strong objection to including it. It seems to support l10n, but it's outside of Gnome CVS. Strings are otherwise

Let's start discussion about new modules :-)

2007-01-08 Thread Vincent Untz
Hi all, Seems like we forgot to try to reach a consensus about the modules proposed for inclusion in 2.18 ;-) According to the wiki [1], this the list of proposed modules: + gnomescan + nm-applet (from NetworkManager) + seahorse + tracker + gnome-main-menu A new suite is also proposed. Thi

Re: Update required system-tools-backends to 2.1/2.2

2007-01-08 Thread Vincent Untz
Le jeudi 04 janvier 2007, à 20:11, Carlos Garnacho a écrit : > Hi!, > > As seen on http://live.gnome.org/TwoPointSeventeen/ExternalDependencies > system-tools-backends minimum dependency version is 1.9.7, it would be > great to upgrade that dependency to 2.1.2, it features the extensible > list of

Re: gnome-panel menu lockdown proposal

2007-01-08 Thread Vincent Untz
Le lundi 08 janvier 2007, à 16:07, guenther a écrit : > > > * deskbar-applet > > > > Just disallow use of the deskbar-applet completely, via disabled_applets. > > So there is a third part involved the admin needs to take care of in > order to lock down anything... We can make things easier with

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