Re: [Usability] On Ctrl+tab

2010-01-22 Thread Calum Benson
On 18 Jan 2010, at 21:27, Jud Craft wrote: >> If the Gnome project would have the means >> (and the desire) to enforce its guidelines as much as Apple does, >> Firefox wouldn't have made it as the primary browser in many >> distributions. > > True about GNOME, but...if per your point Apple-Has-T

Re: [Usability] On Ctrl+tab

2010-01-16 Thread Jud Craft
On 1/15/10 9:33 AM, Calum Benson wrote: > > Ah ok. That type of preference dialog is actually using a toolbar, not a tab control, which does have the keynav you describe. > > I was talking about (for example) the Universal Access preferences, which has four "proper" tabs (Seeing, Hearing, Keyb

Re: [Usability] On Ctrl+tab

2010-01-15 Thread Calum Benson
On 15 Jan 2010, at 13:14, Jud Craft wrote: > Not sure what you mean about "dialog-level tab". Do you mean their > notebook-style preference dialogs with the different pages? Yes, but... > In Mail on 10.6, I can tab between any of the pages/tabs in the preferences > window, Accounts, RSS, etc

Re: [Usability] On Ctrl+tab

2010-01-15 Thread Jud Craft
On 1/14/10 12:20 PM, Calum Benson wrote: Dialog-level tabs, as found in many of Apple's system preference windows, do not have any direct keynav AFAIK. You just have to Tab through the dialog until the tab control gets focus, then use the arrow keys+Space to switch to a different tab. Cal

Re: [Usability] On Ctrl+tab

2010-01-14 Thread Calum Benson
On 13 Jan 2010, at 13:04, Jud Craft wrote: > I don't think there is any official Apple pack-in program that uses tabs at > all. But then they do have a document-based window manager, so it's probably > not a necessity. Safari is one core OS X app that has document-level tabs, and in 10.6 it u