Op di, 26-09-2006 te 08:04 -0400, schreef Reed Hedges:
> One problem is using the word "eject" as a synonym for "unmount" (that
> the user happens to recognize more easily). With "eject" you expect the
> volume to come shooting out of the computer... there's no good word I
> can think of to use in
One problem is using the word "eject" as a synonym for "unmount" (that
the user happens to recognize more easily). With "eject" you expect the
volume to come shooting out of the computer... there's no good word I
can think of to use instead of "unmount" that communicates what is
happening in
On Thu, 2006-09-14 at 14:05 +0200, Isak Savo wrote:
> 2006/9/14, David Prieto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > El jue, 14-09-2006 a las 08:12 -0300, Thiago Ribeiro escribió:
> > > I'm talking about the usb devices... pen drive... exactly.. :)
> >
> > This lacked any kind of notification in previous gnome v
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One problem is using the word "eject" as a synonym for "unmount" (that
the user happens to recognize more easily). With "eject" you expect the
volume to come shooting out of the computer... there's no good word I
can think of to use instead of "unm
--- Who <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have made a mock-up of a different solution to
> this that I have been thinking
> of for a while - see the attached image, sorry it is
> highly compressed
Looks good, but it's a bit wordy.
- Don't use scare quotes on the word "eject" the first
time.
- it's
On Thu, 2006-09-14 at 17:43 +0200, Xavier Bestel wrote:
> On Thu, 2006-09-14 at 14:55, Michael Banck wrote:
> > On Thu, Sep 14, 2006 at 02:05:49PM +0200, Isak Savo wrote:
> > > I think he's talking about the fact that when you "unmount" a USB
> > > device in windows, the devices are often turning o
On Fri, 15 Sep 2006, Who wrote:
> - Ubuntu have a notification bubbles that tell the user when they get
> it wrong (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutoUnmountNotifications) - but I
> think it's better to tell them before they loose their data :)
lose
> Who
What?
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I have made a mock-up of a different solution to this that I have been thinking
of for a while - see the attached image, sorry it is highly compressed
Basically, the suggestion is that we add a bar at the top of the icon
view (where the 'search' and 'cd burning' headings go) that advises
the user
fusing crosstalk whichcan make things very difficult to follow.Please do not crosspost.On Thu, 14 Sep 2006, David Prieto wrote:> Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 10:44:42 +0200
> From: David Prieto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> To: usability@gnome.org,
desktop-devel-list@gnome.org> Subject: [Usability]
On 9/14/06, Emmanuele Bassi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [...]
> What if I close the window but keep the USB drive attached in order to
> access it later in the session? Do I have to open Computer then scan
> for the drive? The Place shortcuts are there for a reason: to make
> access of commonly
Më Enj , 2006-09-14 at 18:26 -0400, David Zeuthen ka shkruar:
> On Thu, 2006-09-14 at 14:05 +0200, Isak Savo wrote:
> > I think he's talking about the fact that when you "unmount" a USB
> > device in windows, the devices are often turning off their leds to
> > indicate that they are now turned off.
On Thu, 2006-09-14 at 23:24 +0100, Toby Smithe wrote:
> > Pretty sure the PCMCIA stuff is not needed on recent Linux 2.6. At least
> > it just works for me on Fedora and it's not like we're doing anything
> > special in userland.
>
> It doesn't just work. emu10k1 doesn't unload on eject, and when
On Thu, 2006-09-14 at 14:05 +0200, Isak Savo wrote:
> I think he's talking about the fact that when you "unmount" a USB
> device in windows, the devices are often turning off their leds to
> indicate that they are now turned off. When unmounting in linux, this
> is often not the case (although the
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David Zeuthen wrote:
> On Thu, 2006-09-14 at 10:15 -0400, Rodney Dawes wrote:
>> Why don't we just put an icon in the tray always, to unmount media, stop
>> pcmcia devices, and other nifty things like that, the same as Windows
>> does? The latter of th
On Thu, 2006-09-14 at 16:39 +0100, Ross Burton wrote:
> > My iAudio M3 says "Do not disconnect!" on its display even after
> > unmounting, I don't think this is only cosmetic.
>
> My iPod does the same. You need to eject the device. Interestly when I
> right-click on an iPod on my desktop, I'm p
On Thu, 2006-09-14 at 10:15 -0400, Rodney Dawes wrote:
> Why don't we just put an icon in the tray always, to unmount media, stop
> pcmcia devices, and other nifty things like that, the same as Windows
> does? The latter of those two problems still isn't solved in the
> desktop. We need an easy way
On Thu, 2006-09-14 at 17:52 -0400, Ben Maurer wrote:
> Is another daemon going to be created in order to do this, something like
> ejectable-device-manager? Regardless of any usability issues, this needs
> to be doable without a new process on the desktop, so that we don't waste
> memory.
We ha
Is another daemon going to be created in order to do this, something like
ejectable-device-manager? Regardless of any usability issues, this needs
to be doable without a new process on the desktop, so that we don't waste
memory.
-b
On Thu, 14 Sep 2006, David Prieto wrote:
> I've noticed that
On Thu, 2006-09-14 at 14:55 +0200, Michael Banck wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 14, 2006 at 02:05:49PM +0200, Isak Savo wrote:
> > I think he's talking about the fact that when you "unmount" a USB
> > device in windows, the devices are often turning off their leds to
> > indicate that they are now turned off
> > E.g., similar to how the Nautilus CD/DVD Creator already has a Write
> > to Disc button, an eject button could be added to Nautilus windows
> > that represent disks.
> At this point, I'd go as far as suggesting a sub menu for each volume,
> with a "View" item, an eventual "Copy" item (for CD
On Thu, 2006-09-14 at 19:30 +0200, Jonas De Vuyst wrote:
> On 9/14/06, Ross Burton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > [...]
> > How feasible would it be to add an Eject icon to the removable drive
> > menu entries under Places? Split the menu item into two so that
> > clicking the main icon and text o
On 9/14/06, Ross Burton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [...]
> How feasible would it be to add an Eject icon to the removable drive
> menu entries under Places? Split the menu item into two so that
> clicking the main icon and text opens the device in Nautilus as usual,
> but there is an eject icon
On Thu, 2006-09-14 at 14:55, Michael Banck wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 14, 2006 at 02:05:49PM +0200, Isak Savo wrote:
> > I think he's talking about the fact that when you "unmount" a USB
> > device in windows, the devices are often turning off their leds to
> > indicate that they are now turned off. When
On Thu, 2006-09-14 at 14:55 +0200, Michael Banck wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 14, 2006 at 02:05:49PM +0200, Isak Savo wrote:
> > I think he's talking about the fact that when you "unmount" a USB
> > device in windows, the devices are often turning off their leds to
> > indicate that they are now turned off
I'm talking about the usb devices... pen drive... exactly.. :)
On 9/14/06, David Prieto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> El jue, 14-09-2006 a las 08:01 -0300, Thiago Ribeiro escribió:
> > In some cases you click to eject.. but the device continues enable,
> > with its light on.. I think that it is a p
In some cases you click to eject.. but the device continues enable,
with its light on.. I think that it is a problem with the system.. but
the users continue confused because the light don't turn off... and
this don't pass confidence to user.. because when you turn off the usb
on windows the lights
On Thu, Sep 14, 2006 at 02:05:49PM +0200, Isak Savo wrote:
> I think he's talking about the fact that when you "unmount" a USB
> device in windows, the devices are often turning off their leds to
> indicate that they are now turned off. When unmounting in linux, this
> is often not the case (althou
--- Thiago Ribeiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In some cases you click to eject.. but the device
> continues enable,
> with its light on.. I think that it is a problem
> with the system.. but
> the users continue confused because the light don't
> turn off... and
> this don't pass confidence to
ility@gnome.org, desktop-devel-list@gnome.org
> Subject: [Usability] Drive applet by default
>
> I've noticed that some people coming from windows have trouble removing
> USB devices and the like, because they don't quite know what to do to
> "safely remove the device".
> Why don't we just put an icon in the tray always, to unmount media, stop
> pcmcia devices, and other nifty things like that, the same as Windows
> does?
The drive applet already does that, why don't we just put it on the
panel? :?
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On Thu, 2006-09-14 at 10:04 +0100, Ross Burton wrote:
> On Thu, 2006-09-14 at 10:44 +0200, David Prieto wrote:
> > I've noticed that some people coming from windows have trouble removing
> > USB devices and the like, because they don't quite know what to do to
> > "safely remove the device".
>
> H
> I think he's talking about the fact that when you "unmount" a USB
> device in windows, the devices are often turning off their leds to
> indicate that they are now turned off. When unmounting in linux, this
> is often not the case (although the device *is* properly unmounted and
> data is flushed
2006/9/14, David Prieto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> El jue, 14-09-2006 a las 08:12 -0300, Thiago Ribeiro escribió:
> > I'm talking about the usb devices... pen drive... exactly.. :)
>
> This lacked any kind of notification in previous gnome versions, which
> led to data loss because of people pulling th
El jue, 14-09-2006 a las 08:12 -0300, Thiago Ribeiro escribió:
> I'm talking about the usb devices... pen drive... exactly.. :)
You know that it is when you unmount the applet that all writing
opperations are performed, right?
This lacked any kind of notification in previous gnome versions, which
El jue, 14-09-2006 a las 08:01 -0300, Thiago Ribeiro escribió:
> In some cases you click to eject.. but the device continues enable,
> with its light on.. I think that it is a problem with the system.. but
> the users continue confused because the light don't turn off... and
> this don't pass confi
El jue, 14-09-2006 a las 10:04 +0100, Ross Burton escribió:
> How feasible would it be to add an Eject icon to the removable drive
> menu entries under Places? Split the menu item into two so that
> clicking the main icon and text opens the device in Nautilus as usual,
> but there is an eject icon
On Thu, 2006-09-14 at 10:44 +0200, David Prieto wrote:
> I've noticed that some people coming from windows have trouble removing
> USB devices and the like, because they don't quite know what to do to
> "safely remove the device".
How feasible would it be to add an Eject icon to the removable driv
I've noticed that some people coming from windows have trouble removing
USB devices and the like, because they don't quite know what to do to
"safely remove the device".
They come from windows and they're used to look into the system tray to
unmount removable. There's no way for them to know that
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