Re: GNOME 2.20 Python version

2007-03-14 Thread Murray Cumming
On Tue, 2007-03-13 at 12:52 -0500, Shaun McCance wrote: If a program works correctly with Python 2.4, is there actually a danger of it not working correctly with 2.5? That sounds broken. Python 2.4 and 2.5 install in parallel so already-built applications will not be broken. But if you choose

Re: GNOME 2.20 Python version

2007-03-14 Thread Murray Cumming
On Tue, 2007-03-13 at 14:23 -0500, Shaun McCance wrote: [snip] You should always test with your minimum requirements. [snip] It's not that simple. Some (fairly minor) changes are needed to make things build with Python 2.5. We already know that they build with Python 2.4. They need to build with

Re: GNOME 2.20 Python version

2007-03-14 Thread Fernando Herrera
On 3/14/07, Murray Cumming [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2007-03-13 at 12:52 -0500, Shaun McCance wrote: If a program works correctly with Python 2.4, is there actually a danger of it not working correctly with 2.5? That sounds broken. Python 2.4 and 2.5 install in parallel so

Re: GNOME 2.20 Python version

2007-03-14 Thread Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro
On Qua, 2007-03-14 at 13:18 +0200, Fernando Herrera wrote: On 3/14/07, Murray Cumming [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2007-03-13 at 12:52 -0500, Shaun McCance wrote: If a program works correctly with Python 2.4, is there actually a danger of it not working correctly with 2.5? That

Re: GNOME 2.20 Python version

2007-03-14 Thread Shaun McCance
On Wed, 2007-03-14 at 09:48 +0100, Murray Cumming wrote: On Tue, 2007-03-13 at 12:52 -0500, Shaun McCance wrote: I worry that this move would result in programmers using 2.5-only features. Our intrepid testers wouldn't notice, because they're building from jhbuild. But we'd create an

Re: GNOME 2.20 Python version

2007-03-14 Thread Shaun McCance
On Wed, 2007-03-14 at 09:50 +0100, Murray Cumming wrote: On Tue, 2007-03-13 at 14:23 -0500, Shaun McCance wrote: [snip] You should always test with your minimum requirements. [snip] It's not that simple. Some (fairly minor) changes are needed to make things build with Python 2.5. We

Re: GNOME 2.20 Python version

2007-03-13 Thread Loïc Minier
On Mon, Mar 12, 2007, Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro wrote: I'd like to suggest updating jhbuild to install Python 2.5 instead of 2.4 for GNOME 2.20, because: * I don't think Python 2.4 will continue to be maintained; * Distributions that will receive GNOME 2.20 will most likely make python

Re: GNOME 2.20 Python version

2007-03-13 Thread Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro
On Ter, 2007-03-13 at 09:42 +0100, Loïc Minier wrote: On Mon, Mar 12, 2007, Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro wrote: I'd like to suggest updating jhbuild to install Python 2.5 instead of 2.4 for GNOME 2.20, because: * I don't think Python 2.4 will continue to be maintained; * Distributions

Re: GNOME 2.20 Python version

2007-03-13 Thread Murray Cumming
On Mon, 2007-03-12 at 18:02 +, Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro wrote: I'd like to suggest updating jhbuild to install Python 2.5 instead of 2.4 for GNOME 2.20, because: * I don't think Python 2.4 will continue to be maintained; * Distributions that will receive GNOME 2.20 will most likely

Re: GNOME 2.20 Python version

2007-03-13 Thread Elijah Newren
On 3/13/07, Loïc Minier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Mar 12, 2007, Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro wrote: I'd like to suggest updating jhbuild to install Python 2.5 instead of 2.4 for GNOME 2.20, because: * I don't think Python 2.4 will continue to be maintained; * Distributions that

Re: GNOME 2.20 Python version

2007-03-13 Thread Michael R. Head
On Tue, 2007-03-13 at 09:42 +0100, Loïc Minier wrote:cies? (While we're at it: Debian still has Python 2.4 as default.) Debian/unstable also still has GNOME 2.14. -- Michael R. Head [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.suppressingfire.org/~burner/ http://suppressingfire.livejournal.com smime.p7s

Re: GNOME 2.20 Python version

2007-03-13 Thread Loïc Minier
On Tue, Mar 13, 2007, Michael R. Head wrote: Debian/unstable also still has GNOME 2.14. But can jhbuild GNOME 2.16 and 2.18. -- Loïc Minier [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org

Re: GNOME 2.20 Python version

2007-03-13 Thread Jan de Groot
On Tue, 2007-03-13 at 17:26 +0100, Loïc Minier wrote: On Tue, Mar 13, 2007, Michael R. Head wrote: Debian/unstable also still has GNOME 2.14. But can jhbuild GNOME 2.16 and 2.18. Just like you can compile python 2.5 ;) ___ desktop-devel-list

Re: GNOME 2.20 Python version

2007-03-13 Thread Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro
On Ter, 2007-03-13 at 16:57 +0100, Loïc Minier wrote: On Tue, Mar 13, 2007, Elijah Newren wrote: Unlike GNOME and Linux, Python does not use odd version numbers for development versions. Thus 2.5 is the latest production version of Python, rather than the latest development version. I

Re: GNOME 2.20 Python version

2007-03-13 Thread Shaun McCance
On Tue, 2007-03-13 at 17:38 +, Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro wrote: On Ter, 2007-03-13 at 16:57 +0100, Loïc Minier wrote: On Tue, Mar 13, 2007, Elijah Newren wrote: Unlike GNOME and Linux, Python does not use odd version numbers for development versions. Thus 2.5 is the latest production

Re: GNOME 2.20 Python version

2007-03-13 Thread Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro
On Ter, 2007-03-13 at 12:52 -0500, Shaun McCance wrote: On Tue, 2007-03-13 at 17:38 +, Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro wrote: On Ter, 2007-03-13 at 16:57 +0100, Loïc Minier wrote: On Tue, Mar 13, 2007, Elijah Newren wrote: Unlike GNOME and Linux, Python does not use odd version numbers for

Re: GNOME 2.20 Python version

2007-03-13 Thread Elijah Newren
On 3/13/07, Loïc Minier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Mar 13, 2007, Michael R. Head wrote: Debian/unstable also still has GNOME 2.14. But can jhbuild GNOME 2.16 and 2.18. ...and would still be able to even if it only had Python 2.3 installed by default: jhbuild builds python as part of

Re: GNOME 2.20 Python version

2007-03-13 Thread Shaun McCance
On Tue, 2007-03-13 at 18:11 +, Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro wrote: On Ter, 2007-03-13 at 12:52 -0500, Shaun McCance wrote: On Tue, 2007-03-13 at 17:38 +, Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro wrote: On Ter, 2007-03-13 at 16:57 +0100, Loïc Minier wrote: On Tue, Mar 13, 2007, Elijah Newren wrote:

GNOME 2.20 Python version

2007-03-12 Thread Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro
I'd like to suggest updating jhbuild to install Python 2.5 instead of 2.4 for GNOME 2.20, because: * I don't think Python 2.4 will continue to be maintained; * Distributions that will receive GNOME 2.20 will most likely make python 2.5 the default (ubuntu already does for GNOME 2.18); *

Re: GNOME 2.20 Python version

2007-03-12 Thread Joseph E. Sacco, Ph.D.
This link may be enlightening: http://www.python.org/download/releases/2.4.4/ -Joseph == On Mon, 2007-03-12 at 18:02 +, Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro wrote: I'd like to suggest updating jhbuild to install Python