Lowering the barrier (was: Re: build systems)

2007-11-09 Thread Matteo Settenvini
Il giorno ven, 09/11/2007 alle 16.58 -0600, Jonathon Jongsma ha scritto: > On 11/9/07, Lucas Rocha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > - Are the current drawbacks of using autotools in GNOME so so so > > annoying that it would be really worth the effort of migrating to > > something else? > > The only

Re: Lowering the barrier (was: Re: build systems)

2007-11-10 Thread Murray Cumming
On Sat, 2007-11-10 at 00:43 +0100, Matteo Settenvini wrote: [snip] > we need some proper documentation > explaining how the GNOME stack is built, jhbuild should take care of building. There is a lot of information about how to use jhbuild, including solving specific problems on specific distros.

Re: Lowering the barrier (was: Re: build systems)

2007-11-10 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
On 10/11/2007, Matteo Settenvini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Il giorno ven, 09/11/2007 alle 16.58 -0600, Jonathon Jongsma ha scritto: > > On 11/9/07, Lucas Rocha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > - Are the current drawbacks of using autotools in GNOME so so so > > > annoying that it would be re

Re: Lowering the barrier (was: Re: build systems)

2007-11-10 Thread Emmanuele Bassi
On Sat, 2007-11-10 at 15:06 +0100, Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen wrote: > * GObjects are conceptually difficult when you have standard > knowledge of C# or Java you know you don't have to use GObjects with C, right? you can write native C# and Java applications. > * Autotools are exceptionally har

Re: Lowering the barrier (was: Re: build systems)

2007-11-10 Thread Elijah Newren
On Nov 10, 2007 7:41 AM, Emmanuele Bassi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 2007-11-10 at 15:06 +0100, Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen wrote: > > > * GObjects are conceptually difficult when you have standard > > knowledge of C# or Java > > you know you don't have to use GObjects with C, right? you ca

Re: Lowering the barrier (was: Re: build systems)

2007-11-10 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
On 10/11/2007, Emmanuele Bassi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sat, 2007-11-10 at 15:06 +0100, Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen wrote: > > > * GObjects are conceptually difficult when you have standard > > knowledge of C# or Java > > you know you don't have to use GObjects with C, right? you can write

Re: Lowering the barrier (was: Re: build systems)

2007-11-10 Thread James "Doc" Livingston
On Sat, 2007-11-10 at 14:41 +, Emmanuele Bassi wrote: > On Sat, 2007-11-10 at 15:06 +0100, Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen wrote: > > > * GObjects are conceptually difficult when you have standard > > knowledge of C# or Java > > you know you don't have to use GObjects with C, right? you can write

Re: Lowering the barrier (was: Re: build systems)

2007-11-10 Thread Who
On Nov 9, 2007 11:43 PM, Matteo Settenvini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I would like to discuss with you where we could act seriously in this > direction. I've got some comments to make: > It sounds like at this stage some input from people who have found the learning curve prohibitive might be

Re: Lowering the barrier (was: Re: build systems)

2007-11-10 Thread Emmanuele Bassi
hi; On Sat, 2007-11-10 at 23:33 +0100, Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen wrote: > On 10/11/2007, Emmanuele Bassi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 2007-11-10 at 15:06 +0100, Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen > wrote: > > > * GObjects are conceptually difficult when you have >

Re: Lowering the barrier (was: Re: build systems)

2007-11-10 Thread Braden McDaniel
On Sun, 2007-11-11 at 00:37 +, Who wrote: [snip] > Here are my thoughts: > > 1. What do you use to code!? What do I need on my system to do > this?-- > > Coding on Windows makes you soft, especially if you used something > like Visual Studio. There will be a huge number

Re: Lowering the barrier (was: Re: build systems)

2007-11-11 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
Just a quickie since the kids are screaming :-) : I started a wiki page to collect the status of this discussion: http://live.gnome.org/EasyGnome If I missed anything please comment. Heck please comment anyways. Cheers, Mikkel ___ desktop-devel-list mai