El dt 12 de 10 de 2010 a les 16:03 +0200, en/na Vincent Untz va
escriure:
Le mardi 12 octobre 2010, à 12:10 +0200, Claude Paroz a écrit :
b) we enforce a GNOME stats/translation tool, and we make the necessary
steps so as it supports distributed development. For example, that could
mean
2010-10-12 17:41 keltezéssel, Gil Forcada írta:
Then l10n.gnome.org should make commits in the git.gnome.org version and
the maintainer should only had to pick the translations from there.
No, please do not want to rely on then the maintaner will commit the
files/merge the branch.
He
El dv 15 de 10 de 2010 a les 13:29 -0500, en/na Diego Escalante Urrelo
va escriure:
El vie, 15-10-2010 a las 08:29 -0700, Sandy Armstrong escribió:
I'm not a fan myself, but I can see how once a project was already
hooked on a Launchpad-oriented process, it would be work to migrate to
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Am 16.10.2010 14:32, schrieb Gil Forcada:
El dv 15 de 10 de 2010 a les 13:29 -0500, en/na Diego Escalante Urrelo
va escriure:
El vie, 15-10-2010 a las 08:29 -0700, Sandy Armstrong escribió:
I'm not a fan myself, but I can see how once a project
2010/10/18 Dimitris Glezos gle...@indifex.com:
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 1:12 PM, Kenneth Nielsen k.nielse...@gmail.com
wrote:
The solution of having a translations only copy of a module in gnome
git, combined with some sort of automatic syncing back and forth,
seems to a good solution for the
2010/10/16 daniel g. siegel dgsie...@gnome.org:
On Sat, 2010-10-16 at 03:05 +0200, Kenneth Nielsen wrote:
2010/10/15 daniel g. siegel dgsie...@gnome.org:
On Fri, 2010-10-15 at 16:47 +0200, Johannes Schmid wrote:
Hi!
As much as I'd like to claim it, I don't think we can achieve
Hallo everyone
I think this thread is about reaching the length where we need to make
something happen, or nothing will come of it and we are all doomed to
repeat the whole thing the next time this issue arises. So lets try
and sum up:
The solution of having a translations only copy of a module
Hi!
Then we can afterwards continue discussing whether we should/need to
add an offer for a external translation framework that is also GNOME
approved (e.g. Transifex, Launchpad ,).
Note that Transifex is not an *external* solution as we would host our
own Transifex service on GNOME
2010/10/18 Johannes Schmid j...@jsschmid.de:
Hi!
Then we can afterwards continue discussing whether we should/need to
add an offer for a external translation framework that is also GNOME
approved (e.g. Transifex, Launchpad ,).
Note that Transifex is not an *external* solution as we
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 1:12 PM, Kenneth Nielsen k.nielse...@gmail.com wrote:
The solution of having a translations only copy of a module in gnome
git, combined with some sort of automatic syncing back and forth,
seems to a good solution for the module maintainers that don't mind
having this
On Mon, 2010-10-18 at 18:11 +0300, Dimitris Glezos wrote:
Now, having said this, I just realized a potential issue with Tx
GNOME. Tx 1.0 does NOT support intltool projects which do not have a
POT file. More information at the following pages:
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 6:52 PM, Shaun McCance sha...@gnome.org wrote:
On Mon, 2010-10-18 at 18:11 +0300, Dimitris Glezos wrote:
Now, having said this, I just realized a potential issue with Tx
GNOME. Tx 1.0 does NOT support intltool projects which do not have a
POT file. More information at
On Sat, 2010-10-16 at 03:05 +0200, Kenneth Nielsen wrote:
2010/10/15 daniel g. siegel dgsie...@gnome.org:
On Fri, 2010-10-15 at 16:47 +0200, Johannes Schmid wrote:
Hi!
As much as I'd like to claim it, I don't think we can achieve
everything with a single shot. :-) Maintainers of GNOME
On Fri, 2010-10-15 at 22:15 +0200, Claude Paroz wrote:
Le vendredi 15 octobre 2010 à 13:29 -0500, Diego Escalante Urrelo a
écrit :
El vie, 15-10-2010 a las 08:29 -0700, Sandy Armstrong escribió:
I'm not a fan myself, but I can see how once a project was already
hooked on a
On Sat, 2010-10-16 at 10:21 +0200, daniel g. siegel wrote:
I think especially the, is not just used by GNOME, argument will be
difficult to circumvent.
right, but in that case there is no problem to have it hosted on
freedesktop.org, like many other dependencies of gnome.
it's
On Sat, 2010-10-16 at 12:32 +0200, daniel g. siegel wrote:
right, but in that case there is no problem to have it hosted on
freedesktop.org, like many other dependencies of gnome.
it's inconsequential: the whole problem is having it, or not having it,
on the gnome.org server -
Le vendredi 15 octobre 2010, à 17:02 +0200, daniel g. siegel a écrit :
On Fri, 2010-10-15 at 16:47 +0200, Johannes Schmid wrote:
Hi!
As much as I'd like to claim it, I don't think we can achieve
everything with a single shot. :-) Maintainers of GNOME modules hosted
outside of
Hi!
I know perfectly well what fd.o is, thank you very much.
the problem at hand is access - and hosting on fd.o has the same issues
as hosting on launchpad or clutter-project.org, or github: translators
want direct access to bypass the maintainers because they feel
(actually: because they
On Sat, 2010-10-16 at 15:53 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote:
Le vendredi 15 octobre 2010, à 17:02 +0200, daniel g. siegel a écrit :
On Fri, 2010-10-15 at 16:47 +0200, Johannes Schmid wrote:
Hi!
As much as I'd like to claim it, I don't think we can achieve
everything with a single shot.
2010/10/12 Johannes Schmid j...@jsschmid.de:
Hi!
Am Dienstag, den 12.10.2010, 18:30 + schrieb Og Maciel:
On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 12:25 PM, Kenneth Nielsen k.nielse...@gmail.com
wrote:
Implementable workflow (3). (A) again is status quo, not much to say
about that. Transifex (C)
2010/10/12 Gabor Kelemen kelem...@gnome.hu:
2010-10-12 17:41 keltezéssel, Gil Forcada írta:
Then l10n.gnome.org should make commits in the git.gnome.org version and
the maintainer should only had to pick the translations from there.
No, please do not want to rely on then the maintaner will
On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Kenneth Nielsen k.nielse...@gmail.com wrote:
2010/10/12 Johannes Schmid j...@jsschmid.de:
After some thinking transiflex really looks like a nice solution. I
mean, damned-lies is cool but it adds a lot of maintaince work (for
Claude).
Could we install our
2010/10/12 Claude Paroz cla...@2xlibre.net:
Sorry, I was away for some days and wasn't able to give my opinion
sooner.
First of all, I'd like to support that using the GNOME infrastructure is
invaluable for translators. It is not rare for us to commit in modules,
(POTFILES.in, translator
Hi!
I suspect a GNOME instance of Transifex will solve this, as long as
the upstream maintainer chooses to use GTP instead of another
translation community. What are our main problems for projects not
hosted on GNOME servers?
The main problem is that external projects often don't allow
On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 12:14 PM, Johannes Schmid j...@jsschmid.de wrote:
Hi!
I suspect a GNOME instance of Transifex will solve this, as long as
the upstream maintainer chooses to use GTP instead of another
translation community. What are our main problems for projects not
hosted on GNOME
On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 12:42 PM, Johannes Schmid j...@jsschmid.de wrote:
Starting from 1.0, Transifex no longer forces commits to VCS. Yay. :-)
We want forced commits! We don't want people to care about translations
unless they are translators because we found out in the past that some
won't
On Fri, 2010-10-15 at 12:59 +0300, Dimitris Glezos wrote:
On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 12:42 PM, Johannes Schmid j...@jsschmid.de wrote:
Starting from 1.0, Transifex no longer forces commits to VCS. Yay. :-)
We want forced commits! We don't want people to care about translations
unless they
On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 4:27 PM, Shaun McCance sha...@gnome.org wrote:
On Fri, 2010-10-15 at 12:59 +0300, Dimitris Glezos wrote:
On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 12:42 PM, Johannes Schmid j...@jsschmid.de wrote:
Starting from 1.0, Transifex no longer forces commits to VCS. Yay. :-)
We want forced
Hi!
As much as I'd like to claim it, I don't think we can achieve
everything with a single shot. :-) Maintainers of GNOME modules hosted
outside of git.gnome.org don't always feel comfortable with raw
commits to their VCS (security, noise in the vcs history etc). Whether
translations should
On Fri, 2010-10-15 at 16:47 +0200, Johannes Schmid wrote:
Hi!
As much as I'd like to claim it, I don't think we can achieve
everything with a single shot. :-) Maintainers of GNOME modules hosted
outside of git.gnome.org don't always feel comfortable with raw
commits to their VCS
On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 8:02 AM, daniel g. siegel dgsie...@gnome.org wrote:
On Fri, 2010-10-15 at 16:47 +0200, Johannes Schmid wrote:
Hi!
As much as I'd like to claim it, I don't think we can achieve
everything with a single shot. :-) Maintainers of GNOME modules hosted
outside of
El vie, 15-10-2010 a las 08:29 -0700, Sandy Armstrong escribió:
I'm not a fan myself, but I can see how once a project was already
hooked on a Launchpad-oriented process, it would be work to migrate to
GNOME infrastructure.
Agree, how could we shorten that difference? I think this is the
On Fri, 2010-10-15 at 13:29 -0500, Diego Escalante Urrelo wrote:
El vie, 15-10-2010 a las 08:29 -0700, Sandy Armstrong escribió:
I'm not a fan myself, but I can see how once a project was already
hooked on a Launchpad-oriented process, it would be work to migrate to
GNOME infrastructure.
Le vendredi 15 octobre 2010 à 13:29 -0500, Diego Escalante Urrelo a
écrit :
El vie, 15-10-2010 a las 08:29 -0700, Sandy Armstrong escribió:
I'm not a fan myself, but I can see how once a project was already
hooked on a Launchpad-oriented process, it would be work to migrate to
GNOME
2010/10/15 daniel g. siegel dgsie...@gnome.org:
On Fri, 2010-10-15 at 16:47 +0200, Johannes Schmid wrote:
Hi!
As much as I'd like to claim it, I don't think we can achieve
everything with a single shot. :-) Maintainers of GNOME modules hosted
outside of git.gnome.org don't always feel
2010/10/12 Kenneth Nielsen k.nielse...@gmail.com:
2010/10/10 Andre Klapper ak...@gmx.net:
Hi,
in
http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2010-October/msg00060.html
the release-team announced its proposal for a reorganisation of the
current modulesets.
As the release-team aims at
Hi Sveinn
I made the mistake of sending it to the gnome-devel-list instead of as
it should have been, the desktop-devel-list, so I'll forward your
email.
-- Forwarded message --
From: Sveinn í Felli svei...@nett.is
Date: 2010/10/12
Subject: Re: GNOME Moduleset Reorganization vs
Le mardi 12 octobre 2010, à 12:10 +0200, Claude Paroz a écrit :
b) we enforce a GNOME stats/translation tool, and we make the necessary
steps so as it supports distributed development. For example, that could
mean that the tool on l10n.gnome.org hosts an i18n version of each tracked
branch
ti., 12.10.2010 kl. 16.03 +0200, skrev Vincent Untz:
Le mardi 12 octobre 2010, à 12:10 +0200, Claude Paroz a écrit :
b) we enforce a GNOME stats/translation tool, and we make the necessary
steps so as it supports distributed development. For example, that could
mean that the tool on
Hi!
Am Dienstag, den 12.10.2010, 18:30 + schrieb Og Maciel:
On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 12:25 PM, Kenneth Nielsen k.nielse...@gmail.com
wrote:
Implementable workflow (3). (A) again is status quo, not much to say
about that. Transifex (C) (afaik*) workflow revolves around
downloading
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