Hi,
On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 4:07 PM, Havoc Pennington h...@pobox.com wrote:
On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 2:27 PM, Federico Mena Quintero
feder...@gnome.org wrote:
Disclaimer/introduction: In the past I've said that saving window
geometries is the job of the window manager and shouldn't be
Le dimanche 28 octobre 2012 à 14:10 -0600, Federico Mena Quintero a
écrit :
On Sun, 2012-10-28 at 08:53 +, Richard Hughes wrote:
I was wondering if we could do something using GtkApplication. It
seems a shame to reimplement this in every app when most apps have
just one window...
On Sun 28 Oct 2012 05:00:15 PM CDT, Alberto Ruiz wrote:
2012/10/28 Federico Mena Quintero feder...@gnome.org
mailto:feder...@gnome.org
Even easier and general-purpose:
gtk_window_set_state_saving_key (window, char *key);
Not easier, if your app has multiple windows, you can just set a
On 26 October 2012 15:07, Havoc Pennington h...@pobox.com wrote:
This could be even higher-level in fact. All the app must do is specify
which windows are the same from invocation to invocation. That is the
fundamental problem (what is the key we are saving the window state
underneath).
On Sun, 2012-10-28 at 08:53 +, Richard Hughes wrote:
I was wondering if we could do something using GtkApplication. It
seems a shame to reimplement this in every app when most apps have
just one window...
Even easier and general-purpose:
gtk_window_set_state_saving_key (window, char
2012/10/28 Federico Mena Quintero feder...@gnome.org
Even easier and general-purpose:
gtk_window_set_state_saving_key (window, char *key);
Not easier, if your app has multiple windows, you can just set a property
on/off on your app class and have the internals of GtkApplication do what
is
On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 2:27 PM, Federico Mena Quintero
feder...@gnome.orgwrote:
Disclaimer/introduction: In the past I've said that saving window
geometries is the job of the window manager and shouldn't be done by
applications. THIS IS WRONG. I retract myself. Applications should be
The XSMP spec is more or less impossible to make sense out of. But to
the extent people have tried, it has not been a useful undertaking.
Here's one old thread: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=79285
There are certainly useful things to do related to session management
and state
On Fri, 26 Oct 2012 10:39:56 -0400
Havoc Pennington h...@pobox.com wrote:
The XSMP spec is more or less impossible to make sense out of. But to
the extent people have tried, it has not been a useful undertaking.
If someone took XSMP round the back and shot it while adding support for a
better
excludes providing the option of preserved window
placement. Obviously for now this is simply not a priority for X. I
X has supported this since the 1990s maybe earlier. The fact Gnome
doesn't do it by default is a Gnome decision. In some respects asking
whether it is a priority for X is a bit
Alan,
Thanks for laying out all of that info about the players involved and
how they would need to work together for preserved window placement.
On 10/25/2012 08:25 AM, Alan Cox wrote:
Please point me in the direction of the people I should be discussing
this with.
I would say
/Reference.html
NOT THAT WE WANT TO MIMIC OSX. But it is a good example. Thinking
about preserved window placement never even came to mind until I
started using Linux, where it basically doesn't exist. In the history
of Mac OS it worked consistently enough that I took it for granted. No
point
On Wednesday, 24 October 2012 at 00:13, Luis Menina wrote:
Do you know the geometry option in X11?
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Guide_to_X11/Starting_Programs#Specifying_window_geometry
Thanks for the link. Seems a bit backwards that I would have to do this
via each program's
a philosophical one? On the Devil's Pie site you say
“Metacity is a lean window manager.” So does the challenge of preserved
window placement come out of a belief that this is not something that
should be managed by the window manager?
I would think simply preserving the specific absolute position
On 24 October 2012 14:28, Jason Simanek jsima...@gmail.com wrote:
Is it an issue of the complexity of the problem being too great and the
interest in solving it being too small?
Basically, yes. Restoring the location of arbitrary windows from
outside of the application is hard. Applications
order they were in. Most applications seem to remember whether or not
they were maximized previously. But all of these features are part of
the individual programs (and extensions in Firefox's case).
It's supposed to be a property of the X session management, including
automatically
On Wed, 2012-10-24 at 08:28 -0500, Jason Simanek wrote:
I would think simply preserving the specific absolute position of the
windows of the various applications a user regularly employs would be
much easier than calculating a dynamic position on the fly every time a
new application is
Hi,
On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Alan Cox a...@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk wrote:
It's supposed to be a property of the X session management, including
automatically restarting applications that were running before (which
Gnome doesn't bother to do). This is usually managed by a mix of the
/ApplicationKit/Classes/NSWindowController_Class/Reference/Reference.html
NOT THAT WE WANT TO MIMIC OSX. But it is a good example. Thinking
about preserved window placement never even came to mind until I
started using Linux, where it basically doesn't exist. In the history
of Mac OS it worked consistently
things like have windows open on multiple desktops and
machines at once.
Yes, I understand the complexity of X and its wide array of abilities
beyond the single-user desktop interface. But none of those many
capabilities excludes providing the option of preserved window
placement. Obviously for now
Do you know the geometry option in X11?
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Guide_to_X11/Starting_Programs#Specifying_window_geometry
Thanks for the link. Seems a bit backwards that I would have to do this
via each program's launch command, but at least it's an option. Course,
in Gnome 2 this
On 10/23/2012 06:13 PM, Luis Menina wrote:
Maybe devil's pie still works with Mutter ?
http://burtonini.com/blog/computers/devilspie
I've dabbled with Devil's Pie. Still seems bizarre that a user would
need to type in dimensions for their windows. What I really want is to
hear that the
Hi,
One of the things about Linux desktop environments that continues to
frustrate me is a lack of preserved window placement (and dimensions)
for different applications. Every time an application is started it is
placed on the screen in some system-wide default or computed location.
Does
Do you know the geometry option in X11?
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Guide_to_X11/Starting_Programs#Specifying_window_geometry
I'm not sure whether modern desktop environments break such convention, though.
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Hi,
On 10/21/2012 02:24 PM, Ma Xiaojun wrote:
Do you know the geometry option in X11?
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Guide_to_X11/Starting_Programs#Specifying_window_geometry
Thanks for the link. Seems a bit backwards that I would have to do this
via each program's launch command, but at least
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