Re: Proposal: NetworkManager for GNOME 2.18.

2006-12-19 Thread Andrew Cowie
On Tue, 2006-12-19 at 09:05 -0500, Joseph E. Sacco, Ph.D. wrote: NetworkManager requires a patched version of dhcp Drifting towards off-topic, but can you (or someone) explain (or point us to a discussion elsewhere) what's needed here? Are you talking about the DHCP client in ISC's releases, or

Re: Proposal: NetworkManager for GNOME 2.18.

2006-12-19 Thread Joseph E. Sacco, Ph.D.
Andrew, I have been working [with David Cantell's help] to get NetworkManager to work under GARNOME. When I started this exercise, I was running YDL-4.1, an FC4 clone. I found that the installed version of dhcp was high enough, but lacked a patch that is required for NetworkManager to work.

Re: Proposal: NetworkManager for GNOME 2.18.

2006-12-06 Thread Ritesh Khadgaray
On Tue, 2006-12-05 at 13:13 +0100, Carlos Garnacho wrote: On Tue, 2006-12-05 at 10:30 +1100, Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who=Dan Williams If it's a priority, it can certainly be done. I don't think this is wildly important - it'll just increase maintainership requirements for you

Re: Proposal: NetworkManager for GNOME 2.18.

2006-12-06 Thread Tomasz Torcz
On Wed, Dec 06, 2006 at 01:35:58PM +0530, Ritesh Khadgaray wrote: If the plan were to ditch network-admin, I'd recommend at least using liboobs as the safe fallback, it already manages static configuration for ethernet and wireless interfaces for many Unices quite reliably, and other

Re: Proposal: NetworkManager for GNOME 2.18.

2006-12-05 Thread Carlos Garnacho
On Tue, 2006-12-05 at 10:30 +1100, Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who=Dan Williams If it's a priority, it can certainly be done. I don't think this is wildly important - it'll just increase maintainership requirements for you unnecessarily. What we do need, however, is some kind of

Re: Proposal: NetworkManager for GNOME 2.18.

2006-12-05 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Carlos Garnacho If we don't ditch network-admin, what about a enable roaming mode checkbox that deconfigures the wifi interface and lets NM do its job? Hrm, great thought! - Jeff -- linux.conf.au 2007: Sydney, Australia http://lca2007.linux.org.au/ 2.4.1ac17 is full

Re: Proposal: NetworkManager for GNOME 2.18.

2006-12-04 Thread Dan Williams
On Tue, 2006-11-28 at 11:13 -0500, Robert Love wrote: On Wed, 2006-11-22 at 21:00 +0100, Vincent Untz wrote: So, several people suggested that having separate packages would be useful. I guess it's also useful for testing reasons and to send a clear message that NetworkManager is not

Re: Proposal: NetworkManager for GNOME 2.18.

2006-12-04 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Dan Williams If it's a priority, it can certainly be done. I don't think this is wildly important - it'll just increase maintainership requirements for you unnecessarily. What we do need, however, is some kind of co-operation between NM and the GNOME System Tools or other network

Re: Proposal: NetworkManager for GNOME 2.18.

2006-11-28 Thread Robert Love
On Wed, 2006-11-22 at 21:00 +0100, Vincent Untz wrote: So, several people suggested that having separate packages would be useful. I guess it's also useful for testing reasons and to send a clear message that NetworkManager is not GNOME-specific. And also it'll be easier to make new releases

Re: Proposal: NetworkManager for GNOME 2.18.

2006-10-19 Thread John (J5) Palmieri
On Mon, 2006-10-09 at 05:57 +0100, Alp Toker wrote: Perhaps the transition for inclusion in Gnome is a good time to start looking at the problems real programs are facing in integrating NetworkManager support? I completely agree here. The main issues are: 1) Inconsistent casing of API

Re: Proposal: NetworkManager for GNOME 2.18.

2006-10-16 Thread Robert Love
On Mon, 2006-10-09 at 05:57 +0100, Alp Toker wrote: Alp, Perhaps the transition for inclusion in Gnome is a good time to start looking at the problems real programs are facing in integrating NetworkManager support? I suggest we move this discussion to the NetworkManager mailing list, where

Re: Proposal: NetworkManager for GNOME 2.18.

2006-10-08 Thread Alp Toker
Robert Love wrote: There is both a daemon and a client? Explain. The daemon is desktop-agnostic. It requires glib, HAL, and DBUS. It runs as root, at the system-level, and enforces no policy, stores no settings, and maintains no state across sessions. The client, conversely, is

Re: Proposal: NetworkManager for GNOME 2.18.

2006-10-04 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Tue, 2006-10-03 at 17:39 -0500, Shaun McCance wrote: On Tue, 2006-10-03 at 12:30 -0400, Robert Love wrote: On Tue, 2006-10-03 at 11:24 -0500, Shaun McCance wrote: Are you then proposing three separate tarball releases? Would you then split NM into three separate CVS modules?

Re: Proposal: NetworkManager for GNOME 2.18.

2006-10-04 Thread Elijah Newren
On 10/3/06, Robert Love [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let's try this again. I'd like to start the discussion on getting NetworkManager--more explicitly, its GNOME-based applet, nm-applet--into GNOME 2.18. Could you add this to the proposed desktop modules section of

Re: Proposal: NetworkManager for GNOME 2.18.

2006-10-04 Thread Robert Love
On Wed, 2006-10-04 at 10:04 -0600, Elijah Newren wrote: Could you add this to the proposed desktop modules section of http://live.gnome.org/TwoPointSeventeen/Desktop? Great suggestion. Done. Robert ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list

Proposal: NetworkManager for GNOME 2.18.

2006-10-03 Thread Robert Love
Let's try this again. I'd like to start the discussion on getting NetworkManager--more explicitly, its GNOME-based applet, nm-applet--into GNOME 2.18. Tell me about NetworkManager without using big words. NetworkManager is the future of Linux networking. Red Hat, SUSE, and others have

Re: Proposal: NetworkManager for GNOME 2.18.

2006-10-03 Thread Shaun McCance
On Tue, 2006-10-03 at 11:40 -0400, Robert Love wrote: Let's try this again. I'd like to start the discussion on getting NetworkManager--more explicitly, its GNOME-based applet, nm-applet--into GNOME 2.18. Tell me about NetworkManager without using big words. NetworkManager is the

Re: Proposal: NetworkManager for GNOME 2.18.

2006-10-03 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Robert Love Right now both the applet and daemon live in GNOME CVS and are released together. (I don't think it's important for them to be split, unless you forsee the combination having an impact on adherence to the GNOME release schedule.) I think the crucial thing we need to do

Re: Proposal: NetworkManager for GNOME 2.18.

2006-10-03 Thread John (J5) Palmieri
On Tue, 2006-10-03 at 14:44 -0400, Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who=Robert Love Right now both the applet and daemon live in GNOME CVS and are released together. (I don't think it's important for them to be split, unless you forsee the combination having an impact on adherence to the GNOME

Re: Proposal: NetworkManager for GNOME 2.18.

2006-10-03 Thread Shaun McCance
On Tue, 2006-10-03 at 12:30 -0400, Robert Love wrote: On Tue, 2006-10-03 at 11:24 -0500, Shaun McCance wrote: Are you then proposing three separate tarball releases? Would you then split NM into three separate CVS modules? Where would each of those modules live? (I can't imagine KDE

Re: Proposal: NetworkManager for GNOME 2.18.

2006-10-03 Thread JP Rosevear
On Tue, 2006-10-03 at 18:23 -0400, John (J5) Palmieri wrote: On Tue, 2006-10-03 at 14:44 -0400, Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who=Robert Love Right now both the applet and daemon live in GNOME CVS and are released together. (I don't think it's important for them to be split, unless you