Re: Proposal: revisiting menus in Gnome

2017-04-12 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Wed, 2017-04-12 at 01:37 +0100, Greg K Nicholson wrote: > I did know GUADEC was coming to Manchester, and I've been intending > to > look into it in more detail. Judging by last year's schedule I think > I > just need to get on with it and register. (For the completely > uninitiated, perhaps GUA

Re: Proposal: revisiting menus in Gnome

2017-04-11 Thread Greg K Nicholson
Hi Michael, Alberto and Hashem, First off, thank you for your welcoming and positive responses! I did know GUADEC was coming to Manchester, and I've been intending to look into it in more detail. Judging by last year's schedule I think I just need to get on with it and register. (For the complete

Re: Fwd: Proposal: revisiting menus in Gnome

2017-04-11 Thread Hashem Nasarat
Thanks for writing this up, Greg! The pamel menu has always been a pet peeve of mine in GNOME. You've argued well why it hasn't worked out, and I hope the the design and gnome-shell teams engage with your ideas. Couple things come to mind: * Maybe you could add your ideas to the wiki under a c

Re: Proposal: revisiting menus in Gnome

2017-04-10 Thread Alberto Ruiz
Hey Greg, First of all, thanks a lot, one can tell about this email that you care passionately about GNOME, so thanks for reaching out! The design team can certainly use help :-) I will leave it up to them to route you to the right venue to have a conversation about your suggestions. I was just w

Re: Fwd: Proposal: revisiting menus in Gnome

2017-04-10 Thread Michael Catanzaro
I don't have much to add, but you have a bunch of good points and a serious design for addressing the problem. I hope the community considers your suggestions seriously, even if we expect that app/panel menu adoption will likely improve in the next couple of years with Ubuntu switching back to GNOM

Fwd: Proposal: revisiting menus in Gnome

2017-04-10 Thread Greg K Nicholson
Hi folks, This is going to be a long one. Check you have a cup of tea before you dive in. # Summary We should improve how Gnome apps organise their menus. We should move the contents of the panel menu into the headerbar menu, where Preferences and Quit should be styled like in the Shell's syst