> > If it hasn't been discussed, maybe worth some pondering, and if it has
> > in recent history, I for one would love to know the verdict :)
>
> I don't think I've discussed it with regards to Application Indicators,
> but the issue that I've always had
On 02/19/2010 08:23 AM, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote:
Nathaniel McCallum wrote on 19/02/10 07:39:
...
I'd like to take the opportunity to talk about apps that may not fit
the AppInd model.
We have two basic goals here in replacing the notification area:
1. Make interaction with panel items more
worth some pondering, and if it has
> in recent history, I for one would love to know the verdict :)
I don't think I've discussed it with regards to Application Indicators,
but the issue that I've always had with emblems is that they look
"bolted on." So overall, the desig
> Currently we generate a StatusIcon on the fly by rendering into a
> pixbuf. This icon contains the color of the highest event severity
> and the number of events of this severity. Using the AppInd model, we
> would be required to generate roughly 5k icons just for this display
> (5 status col
Nathaniel McCallum wrote on 19/02/10 07:39:
>...
> I'd like to take the opportunity to talk about apps that may not fit
> the AppInd model.
We have two basic goals here in replacing the notification area:
1. Make interaction with panel items more consistent. Clean up the
swamp where some ite
On 02/18/2010 07:32 PM, Colin Walters wrote:
But, do we agree that it makes sense for this to be in GTK+ (at least
under #ifdef X11)? Ted seemed to say "maybe".If we agree roughly
on that, then do we want a cycle where we port a bunch of apps and
components to use libappindicator, only to ch
On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 12:25 PM, Colin Walters wrote:
> On the subject of the Ubuntu application indicators work:
>
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopExperienceTeam/ApplicationIndicators
>
> First, +5000 that this change is being driven by designers, and +1000
> that new us
On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 6:12 PM, Ted Gould wrote:
>
> I think that the API is probably a little bit off topic for this list
> though, so I'd invite everyone interested over the Ayatana list to hash
> through it a little bit more.
>
> http://launchpad.net/~ayatana
>
If you want something includ
On Thu, 2010-02-18 at 18:54 +, Bastien Nocera wrote:
> Have you done any research on what Windows or MacOS X provide in that
> area, for applications to use? How do the APIs differ?
We weren't trying to match an API or duplicate one from OSX or Windows.
What we were targeting is having a unifi
On Thu, 2010-02-18 at 13:57 -0500, Colin Walters wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 1:46 PM, Ted Gould wrote:
> > Yes, I think GTK/glib is a good place. One of the big blockers is the
> > requirement for DBus,
>
> Yes, clearly having glib-dbus in the stack today would help a lot;
> however gvfs al
Matthias Clasen wrote:
> Whether the design needs change or not needs to be evaluated in the
> context of gnome-shell, of course. This would be much easier if the
> development for app-indicators hadn't happened behind closed doors.
>
> Just adding app-indicators as an external dep. now without w
On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 1:57 PM, Colin Walters wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 1:46 PM, Ted Gould wrote:
>> I think that, as long as the APIs are really similar, porting from
>> libappindicator to the GAppIndicator (or whatever) shouldn't be too
>> difficult. That being said, how can we make s
On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 1:46 PM, Ted Gould wrote:
>
> I'll ping usability and see if we can get this on the agenda for the
> usability hackfest next week.
Awesome!
> Yes, I think GTK/glib is a good place. One of the big blockers is the
> requirement for DBus,
Yes, clearly having glib-dbus in t
On Thu, 2010-02-18 at 12:46 -0600, Ted Gould wrote:
> On Thu, 2010-02-18 at 13:32 -0500, Colin Walters wrote:
> > But, do we agree that it makes sense for this to be in GTK+ (at least
> > under #ifdef X11)? Ted seemed to say "maybe".If we agree roughly
> > on that, then do we want a cycle whe
On Thu, 2010-02-18 at 13:32 -0500, Colin Walters wrote:
> >> * It'd be really nice to get some discussion of how this fits in with
> >> the design plans for GNOME Shell (note that in GNOME 2 if applications
> >> use this, you have potentially *3* representations of an application
> >> in the top pa
On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 1:11 PM, Jorge O. Castro wrote:
>
> We have put together a design guide for application authors here:
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CustomStatusMenuDesignGuidelines
> Feedback on this would be appreciated.
Thanks, yes this is useful.
>> * It'd be really nice to get some discu
On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 12:25 PM, Colin Walters wrote:
> Now, both of those said, I have two issues I'd like to bring up.
Hi Colin, thanks for bringing this up.
> * In the big picture, is this something we're recommending all
> applications to use? Some? Only ones which send notifications?
We
Hi,
On the subject of the Ubuntu application indicators work:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopExperienceTeam/ApplicationIndicators
First, +5000 that this change is being driven by designers, and +1000
that new useful code is being written. There are definite problems
being solved here.
Now
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