Re: [Usability] application names in the application menu

2008-04-04 Thread Jelle de Jong
Gabriel Burt wrote: [Sorry for the out-of-thread reply, just joined] Quote Calum: In summary, now that you're a core desktop application and there are no other core applications with a similar function, your menu entry should not include the word Cheese. It should be something like

Re: application names in the application menu

2008-04-02 Thread Calum Benson
On 30 Mar 2008, at 09:14, Gabriel Burt wrote: [Sorry for the out-of-thread reply, just joined] Quote Calum: In summary, now that you're a core desktop application and there are no other core applications with a similar function, your menu entry should not include the word Cheese. It should

Re: [Usability] application names in the application menu

2008-04-01 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
Le vendredi 28 mars 2008 à 18:30 +0100, daniel g. siegel a écrit : ... recently, i showed some pupils the gnome desktop and what i noticed was, that they even didnt know what Cheese meaned, or what program would open if he had clicked on it. this wasnt only on cheese, but also on epiphany,

Re: [Usability] application names in the application menu

2008-04-01 Thread Emilio Pozuelo Monfort
Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: If a program has a name obviously related to what it does, *or* lots of marketing, you're fine. But if you're missing both, people will have trouble working out what the program is for. Even then, an obvious name may only work for English. You will never see

Re: [Usability] application names in the application menu

2008-04-01 Thread Dave Neary
Tomasz Torcz wrote: As for previosuly mentioned Cheese, pl_PL GNOME has it translated as Uśmiech! (eng. smile!). Still far from obvious for users. In French it could be Wistiti! Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Usability] application names in the application menu

2008-04-01 Thread Denis Washington
On Tue, 2008-04-01 at 14:18 +0200, Tomasz Torcz wrote: On Tue, Apr 01, 2008 at 01:39:33PM +0200, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote: Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: If a program has a name obviously related to what it does, *or* lots of marketing, you're fine. But if you're missing both, people will

Re: [Usability] application names in the application menu

2008-04-01 Thread Shaun McCance
On Sat, 2008-03-29 at 19:38 +0100, daniel g. siegel wrote: On Sa, 2008-03-29 at 12:27 +, Calum Benson wrote: In summary, now that you're a core desktop application and there are no other core applications with a similar function, your menu entry should not include the word Cheese.

Re: [Usability] application names in the application menu

2008-04-01 Thread Calum Benson
On Tue, 2008-04-01 at 11:21 -0500, Shaun McCance wrote: It's a shame that in 2008, we're still limited to 1980s menus and very short labels. I've attached a very bad mockup of how descriptions could be right there in the menu where users can see them without hovering for the tooltip. We're

Re: [Usability] application names in the application menu

2008-03-31 Thread Luca Ferretti
Il giorno sab, 29/03/2008 alle 12.27 +, Calum Benson ha scritto: On 28 Mar 2008, at 17:30, daniel g. siegel wrote: Historically, when we wrote the HIG we originally wanted all the core GNOME desktop apps to have functional names only, to alleviate some of this confusion. Thus

Re: [Usability] application names in the application menu

2008-03-30 Thread Karl Lattimer
On 29 Mar 2008, at 20:38, daniel g. siegel wrote: On Sa, 2008-03-29 at 12:27 +, Calum Benson wrote: On 28 Mar 2008, at 17:30, daniel g. siegel wrote: now i learned, that it was very confusing to have names like nautilus, epiphany, cheese for a guy, who hears those names for the first

Re: application names in the application menu

2008-03-29 Thread Xavier Claessens
Le vendredi 28 mars 2008 à 18:30 +0100, daniel g. siegel a écrit : hi! im writing this mail because i am very confused (and no, it is just now ;) ). in cheese we plan to change the description of the application menu entry, as it is somehow misleading. we want to change it to Take photos

Re: [Usability] application names in the application menu

2008-03-29 Thread Calum Benson
On 28 Mar 2008, at 17:30, daniel g. siegel wrote: now i learned, that it was very confusing to have names like nautilus, epiphany, cheese for a guy, who hears those names for the first time. so it would be better to have menu entries like Texteditor (gedit) or Document viewer (evince).