Re: gnome-screensaver: Up for grabs?

2016-07-27 Thread Ikey Doherty
On 27/07/16 15:24, Alberts Muktupāvels wrote: > On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 5:05 PM, Ikey Doherty > mailto:michael.i.dohe...@intel.com>> wrote: > > > For long time I already want/plan to merge gnome-screensaver into > > gnome-flashback. It will give more fre

Re: gnome-screensaver: Up for grabs?

2016-07-27 Thread Alberts Muktupāvels
On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 5:05 PM, Ikey Doherty wrote: > > For long time I already want/plan to merge gnome-screensaver into > > gnome-flashback. It will give more freedom to make needed changes > > without affecting any other users and/or sessions that still use > > gnome

Re: gnome-screensaver: Up for grabs?

2016-07-27 Thread Ikey Doherty
le Bassi > wrote: > >> Hi; > >> > >> On 21 July 2016 at 13:42, Ikey Doherty <mailto:michael.i.dohe...@intel.com>> > >> wrote: > >>> So Jeremy Bicha kindly contacted me the other day to express > >>> concern > &g

Re: gnome-screensaver: Up for grabs?

2016-07-27 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Wed, 2016-07-27 at 16:55 +0300, Alberts Muktupāvels wrote: > For long time I already want/plan to merge gnome-screensaver into > gnome-flashback. It will give more freedom to make needed changes > without affecting any other users and/or sessions that still use > gnome-screensaver.

Re: gnome-screensaver: Up for grabs?

2016-07-27 Thread Alberts Muktupāvels
> So Jeremy Bicha kindly contacted me the other day to express > >>> concern > >>> with Budgie/GNOME Screensaver. I had been toying with the notion of > >>> forking GNOME Screensaver due to its deadness, and making it work > >>> better for Bu

Re: gnome-screensaver: Up for grabs?

2016-07-21 Thread Ikey Doherty
On 21/07/16 14:27, Bastien Nocera wrote: > On Thu, 2016-07-21 at 14:12 +0100, Emmanuele Bassi wrote: >> Hi; >> >> On 21 July 2016 at 13:42, Ikey Doherty >> wrote: >>> So Jeremy Bicha kindly contacted me the other day to express >>> concern >>

Re: gnome-screensaver: Up for grabs?

2016-07-21 Thread Ikey Doherty
On 21/07/16 14:12, Emmanuele Bassi wrote: > Hi; > > On 21 July 2016 at 13:42, Ikey Doherty wrote: >> So Jeremy Bicha kindly contacted me the other day to express concern >> with Budgie/GNOME Screensaver. I had been toying with the notion of >> forking GNOME Screensav

Re: gnome-screensaver: Up for grabs?

2016-07-21 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Thu, 2016-07-21 at 14:12 +0100, Emmanuele Bassi wrote: > Hi; > > On 21 July 2016 at 13:42, Ikey Doherty > wrote: > > So Jeremy Bicha kindly contacted me the other day to express > > concern > > with Budgie/GNOME Screensaver. I had been toying with the notion of

Re: gnome-screensaver: Up for grabs?

2016-07-21 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Thu, 2016-07-21 at 14:20 +0100, Ikey Doherty wrote: > > On 21/07/16 14:03, Bastien Nocera wrote: > > On Thu, 2016-07-21 at 13:42 +0100, Ikey Doherty wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > > > So Jeremy Bicha kindly contacted me the other day to express > >

Re: gnome-screensaver: Up for grabs?

2016-07-21 Thread Ikey Doherty
On 21/07/16 14:03, Bastien Nocera wrote: > On Thu, 2016-07-21 at 13:42 +0100, Ikey Doherty wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> So Jeremy Bicha kindly contacted me the other day to express concern >> with Budgie/GNOME Screensaver. I had been toying with the notion of >> for

Re: gnome-screensaver: Up for grabs?

2016-07-21 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Thu, 2016-07-21 at 13:42 +0100, Ikey Doherty wrote: > Hi all, > > So Jeremy Bicha kindly contacted me the other day to express concern > with Budgie/GNOME Screensaver. I had been toying with the notion of > forking GNOME Screensaver due to its deadness, and making it work >

Re: gnome-screensaver: Up for grabs?

2016-07-21 Thread Emmanuele Bassi
Hi; On 21 July 2016 at 13:42, Ikey Doherty wrote: > So Jeremy Bicha kindly contacted me the other day to express concern > with Budgie/GNOME Screensaver. I had been toying with the notion of > forking GNOME Screensaver due to its deadness, and making it work > better for Budgie/

gnome-screensaver: Up for grabs?

2016-07-21 Thread Ikey Doherty
Hi all, So Jeremy Bicha kindly contacted me the other day to express concern with Budgie/GNOME Screensaver. I had been toying with the notion of forking GNOME Screensaver due to its deadness, and making it work better for Budgie/Modern GNOME integration. Jeremy correctly pointed out it might be

Re: maintainership of gnome-screensaver and notification-daemon

2014-10-17 Thread Bastien Nocera
> would like take over maintainership of these modules. I've reassigned or closed all the bugs in the GNOME Bugzilla for gnome-screensaver, and it was closed for new bugs as well. Given the number of bugs that thought gnome-screensaver handled the screensaver in newer versions of GNOME, yo

maintainership of gnome-screensaver and notification-daemon

2014-10-17 Thread Alberts Muktupāvels
Hi, last releases for these modules are two years old. These modules are no longer used in GNOME, right? Modules are still used in unofficial GNOME Flashback session so I would like take over maintainership of these modules. I sent mail to current maintainers of notification-daemon one week ago.

gnome-screensaver closed for new bugs

2014-08-21 Thread Bastien Nocera
Hey, After triaging all the open gnome-screensaver bugs, we closed gnome-screensaver for new bugs[1]. gnome-screensaver is not used in GNOME at all since GNOME 3.8, and isn't used in recent versions of Unity either. Users should still be able to get help about it from their distributors. C

Re: Emitting the ActiveChanged or similar signal for gnome-screensaver when attempting to lock screen

2011-12-15 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Thu, 2011-12-15 at 14:49 +0800, Sam Spilsbury wrote: > Hey All, > > I was thinking about what to do about the long-standing issue that > spans pretty much every desktop about how to handle conflicting grabs > between a menu, or a workspace switcher (in the case of Unity/Compiz | > GNOME-Shell)

Emitting the ActiveChanged or similar signal for gnome-screensaver when attempting to lock screen

2011-12-14 Thread Sam Spilsbury
Hey All, I was thinking about what to do about the long-standing issue that spans pretty much every desktop about how to handle conflicting grabs between a menu, or a workspace switcher (in the case of Unity/Compiz | GNOME-Shell) and the screensaver. At the moment, because the screensaver is unabl

brainstorm: gnome-screensaver integrating to new panel of gnome-appearance-properties

2010-05-10 Thread Szenográdi Norbert
Dear Developers, I have a brainstorm for Gnome : "gnome-screensaver integrating to new panel of gnome-appearance-properties" http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/24574/ If you donate this idea, please vote up. Best regards, Sevoir Norbert

gnome-screensaver branched for 2.24

2008-11-13 Thread William Jon McCann
gnome-screensaver branched for 2.24. Thanks, Jon ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list

gnome-screensaver branched

2008-04-29 Thread William Jon McCann
Hi, I have branched gnome-screensaver. The stable branch is gnome-2-22 and development continues on trunk. Jon ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list

Re: gnome-screensaver and nautilus-cd-burner branched

2008-01-10 Thread Gil Forcada
thanks DL updated cheers, El dc 12 de 12 del 2007 a les 16:51 -0500, en/na William Jon McCann va escriure: > Hi, > > I have branched nautilus-cd-burner and gnome-screensaver. The stable branch is > gnome-2-20 and "development" contin

gnome-screensaver and nautilus-cd-burner branched

2007-12-12 Thread William Jon McCann
Hi, I have branched nautilus-cd-burner and gnome-screensaver. The stable branch is gnome-2-20 and "development" continues on trunk. Jon ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listin

Re: gnome-screensaver photo slideshow CPU usage

2007-05-30 Thread ajkessel
same time. > > It could be beagle which try to index as much files as possible when > screensaver is active. You'll have to check. > beagle is not installed. Adam -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Re%3A-gnome-screensaver-photo-slideshow-CPU-usage-tf

Re: gnome-screensaver photo slideshow CPU usage

2007-05-30 Thread Frederic Crozat
Le lundi 28 mai 2007 à 09:26 -0700, ajkessel a écrit : > The photo slideshow screensaver in gnome-screensaver puts such a load on my > laptop's CPU that the fan runs constantly and tasks such as music playing > with totem become very choppy. Although it's an older laptop

gnome-screensaver photo slideshow CPU usage

2007-05-29 Thread ajkessel
The photo slideshow screensaver in gnome-screensaver puts such a load on my laptop's CPU that the fan runs constantly and tasks such as music playing with totem become very choppy. Although it's an older laptop, I would hope it wouldn't be viewed as totally obsolete: it's a

nautilus-cd-burner and gnome-screensaver branched

2007-04-23 Thread William Jon McCann
Hello, I have branched nautilus-cd-burner and gnome-screensaver. The stable branch is gnome-2-18 and development continues on HEAD. No specific plans at the moment. Jon ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http

gnome-screensaver branched for 2.16

2006-10-16 Thread William Jon McCann
Hello,I have branched gnome-screensaver. The stable branch isgnome-2-16 and development continues on HEAD.Plans include:* Adding a power management baseline timeout * Doing less polling* Try to standardize theme format (bug #354811)* Interacting with ConsoleKit

gnome-screensaver branched for 2.14

2006-04-10 Thread William Jon McCann
Hello, I have branched gnome-screensaver. The stable branch is gnome-2-14 and development continues on HEAD. Plans include: * Add refcounting to Inhibit DBUS API (bug #334907) * Removing themes from the list (bug #316462) * Add XEVIE support (bug #337203) * Full

Fwd: Re: Gnome Screensaver issues?

2006-02-21 Thread Christian Neumair
Weitergeleitete Nachricht > Von: Wouter Stomp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Betreff: Re: Gnome Screensaver issues? > Datum: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 23:03:39 +0100 > > On 2/21/06, Diamond Software <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I&#x

Re: gnome-screensaver

2006-02-19 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Mon, 2006-02-13 at 23:03 +0800, Davyd Madeley wrote: > On Mon, 2006-02-13 at 14:56 +, Richard Hughes wrote: > > On Mon, 2006-02-13 at 22:03 +0800, Davyd Madeley wrote: > > > - power monitors down after ... (we should interact with g-p-m if it is > > > available, else handle it directly) > >

Re: new module decisions [was Re: gnome-screensaver]

2006-02-18 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le vendredi 17 février 2006 à 09:11 -0500, Dan Winship a écrit : > > It's foolish to imagine that being in the desktop release set is > > essential. But it's also foolish to ignore the big benefits to focusing > > our efforts (in a synchronized way) on particular implementations of the > > features

Re: new module decisions [was Re: gnome-screensaver]

2006-02-18 Thread Jeff Waugh
> > My list in the GEP includes all this and more ;) > > yeah, I think your list + some "evaluation team" scrutiny could work much > better than looking for complete consensus on the mailing list. That evaluation team *is* the release team. But the release team doesn't make decisions independent

Re: gnome-screensaver

2006-02-17 Thread Sriram Ramkrishna
On Thu, Feb 16, 2006 at 08:46:11AM -0500, David Zeuthen wrote: > On Thu, 2006-02-16 at 14:52 +0800, Davyd Madeley wrote: > > If this is what > > Redhat thinks of the work done > > I thought it was obvious, but I'd like to point out that I'm not > speaking on behalf of Red Hat on this matter. It

Re: new module decisions [was Re: gnome-screensaver]

2006-02-17 Thread Alexander Larsson
On Fri, 2006-02-17 at 10:58 +0100, Rodrigo Moya wrote: > it was just an example > > > * Does it conflict/compete/overlap with other software in the desktop > > * Does it integrate with the desktop > > * Is it good, interesting software > > * Is this something that we think is important for a deskt

Re: new module decisions [was Re: gnome-screensaver]

2006-02-17 Thread Christian Fredrik Kalager Schaller
Hi, I think our thinking historically has been that distro's who really care about GNOME don't really 'care' that much about our list of stuff in the desktop release as they have a pretty good idea themselves what they want/don't want. Distro's which don't care much about GNOME on the other hand mi

Re: new module decisions [was Re: gnome-screensaver]

2006-02-17 Thread Murray Cumming
On Fri, 2006-02-17 at 09:11 -0500, Dan Winship wrote: > Murray Cumming wrote: > > On Thu, 2006-02-16 at 13:33 -0700, Elijah Newren wrote: > >> - David's recent point in this thread about the desktop release set > >> not being so important also rings true to me. It's a binary in-or-out > >> yet t

Re: new module decisions [was Re: gnome-screensaver]

2006-02-17 Thread Dan Winship
Murray Cumming wrote: > On Thu, 2006-02-16 at 13:33 -0700, Elijah Newren wrote: >> - David's recent point in this thread about the desktop release set >> not being so important also rings true to me. It's a binary in-or-out >> yet there are lots of really rocking "Gnome" programs that are well >

Re: new module decisions [was Re: gnome-screensaver]

2006-02-17 Thread Rodrigo Moya
On Fri, 2006-02-17 at 07:34 -0500, Luis Villa wrote: > On 2/17/06, Rodrigo Moya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Fri, 2006-02-17 at 09:38 +0100, Alexander Larsson wrote: > > > On Fri, 2006-02-17 at 01:41 +0100, Rodrigo Moya wrote: > > > > So, what > > > > if we just set a list of things a module h

Re: new module decisions [was Re: gnome-screensaver]

2006-02-17 Thread Luis Villa
On 2/17/06, Rodrigo Moya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 2006-02-17 at 09:38 +0100, Alexander Larsson wrote: > > On Fri, 2006-02-17 at 01:41 +0100, Rodrigo Moya wrote: > > > So, what > > > if we just set a list of things a module has to conform with to get > > > accepted and base our decisions

Re: gnome-screensaver

2006-02-17 Thread Rodrigo Moya
ely because gnome-power-manager is well integrated that we > > are now having a discussion about whether gnome-screensaver should be > > excluded from GNOME 2.14 simply because it is well integrated with > > gnome-power-manager. > > So, my personal concern about gnome-powe

Re: new module decisions [was Re: gnome-screensaver]

2006-02-17 Thread Rodrigo Moya
On Fri, 2006-02-17 at 09:38 +0100, Alexander Larsson wrote: > On Fri, 2006-02-17 at 01:41 +0100, Rodrigo Moya wrote: > > So, what > > if we just set a list of things a module has to conform with to get > > accepted and base our decisions on that? > > > > For instance, we could have: > > * uses at

Re: new module decisions [was Re: gnome-screensaver]

2006-02-17 Thread Alexander Larsson
On Fri, 2006-02-17 at 01:12 -0800, Alex Graveley wrote: > *cough* tomboy *cough* Tomboy is a great example. Its a great piece of software that does new exciting things. If tomboy would be excluded from the desktop for some technicality I would be very sad. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

Re: new module decisions [was Re: gnome-screensaver]

2006-02-17 Thread John Williams
On Thu, 2006-02-16 at 13:33 -0700, Elijah Newren wrote: > For completeness, I should also note that there are two other big > problems involved which I don't know how to solve on a short timescale > (e.g. before 2.16): > - Havoc's recent points about identifying our target audience is > important

Re: new module decisions [was Re: gnome-screensaver]

2006-02-17 Thread Alex Graveley
*cough* tomboy *cough* ;-) -Alex Alexander Larsson wrote: In the end, what is interesting is not the technology used, but the user experience of the desktop. In fact, I would rather put something in the desktop that violated some technical rule, but was some amazing innovation that really fit

Re: gnome-screensaver

2006-02-17 Thread Vincent Untz
one reason why we have the > same discussions every release cycle. > > Let me address the primary concern that was given - lack of integration. > It is precisely because gnome-power-manager is well integrated that we > are now having a discussion about whether gnome-screensaver should be

Re: new module decisions [was Re: gnome-screensaver]

2006-02-17 Thread Alexander Larsson
On Fri, 2006-02-17 at 01:41 +0100, Rodrigo Moya wrote: > So, what > if we just set a list of things a module has to conform with to get > accepted and base our decisions on that? > > For instance, we could have: > * uses at least basic platform libs (GTK mainly) > * uses existing platform librarie

Re: new module decisions [was Re: gnome-screensaver]

2006-02-16 Thread Davyd Madeley
On Thu, 2006-02-16 at 20:06 -0500, Bryan Clark wrote: > Some proposed action items (from me): > > * HIG has no real notification area guidelines > > To me this doesn't mean g-p-m is doing anything wrong, just that > we design / usability people are behind the game and need to get

Re: new module decisions [was Re: gnome-screensaver]

2006-02-16 Thread Bryan Clark
we'd like to see a good integration work starting soon for 2.16. This reason is a bit too vague and looking back over the thread, I can't see real positions beyond this. I've made some notes from re-reading the gnome-screensaver thread, not to point out anyone (and sorry to tho

Re: new module decisions [was Re: gnome-screensaver]

2006-02-16 Thread Luis Villa
On 2/16/06, Rodrigo Moya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 2006-02-16 at 13:33 -0700, Elijah Newren wrote: > > On 2/16/06, Danilo Šegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi Vincent, > > > > > > Today at 8:24, Vincent Untz wrote: > > > > > > > We'll be trying something new for new modules in 2.16.

Re: new module decisions [was Re: gnome-screensaver]

2006-02-16 Thread Rodrigo Moya
On Thu, 2006-02-16 at 13:33 -0700, Elijah Newren wrote: > On 2/16/06, Danilo Šegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi Vincent, > > > > Today at 8:24, Vincent Untz wrote: > > > > > We'll be trying something new for new modules in 2.16. I think most of > > > us agree that it didn't turn out well for t

Re: new module decisions [was Re: gnome-screensaver]

2006-02-16 Thread Murray Cumming
On Thu, 2006-02-16 at 13:33 -0700, Elijah Newren wrote: > - David's recent point in this thread about the desktop release set > not being so important also rings true to me. It's a binary in-or-out > yet there are lots of really rocking "Gnome" programs that are well > integrated but aren't in t

new module decisions [was Re: gnome-screensaver]

2006-02-16 Thread Elijah Newren
On 2/16/06, Danilo Šegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Vincent, > > Today at 8:24, Vincent Untz wrote: > > > We'll be trying something new for new modules in 2.16. I think most of > > us agree that it didn't turn out well for this cycle. > > Like: lets remove all desktop modules, and reevaluate t

Re: gnome-screensaver

2006-02-16 Thread Danilo Šegan
Hi Vincent, Today at 8:24, Vincent Untz wrote: > We'll be trying something new for new modules in 2.16. I think most of > us agree that it didn't turn out well for this cycle. Like: lets remove all desktop modules, and reevaluate them again? Not that it would bring any concrete results, but I'd

Re: gnome-screensaver

2006-02-16 Thread Danilo Šegan
Today at 15:23, Dan Winship wrote: > It doesn't contain an mp3 player, and for a long time > didn't contain an email client. Etc, etc, etc. We've got Totem, right? Not knowing if gstreamer is actually part of desktop (I don't think it's part of the platform), that gives us at least a half of the

Re: gnome-screensaver

2006-02-16 Thread Davyd Madeley
On Thu, Feb 16, 2006 at 09:21:01AM -0500, David Zeuthen wrote: > In fact I think GNOME and the software we call GNOME is great (otherwise > I wouldn't even bother being on this list), and what's even more > great... is the openness and willingness of the GNOME project, our > community, to help con

Re: gnome-screensaver

2006-02-16 Thread William Jon McCann
d more of a "power" thing than "screensaver" thing. You can configure monitor power down settings using gnome-power-preferences. [...] I see two solutions to this: (1) solve the regression; or (2) punt gnome-screensaver until gnome-power-manager can also be included I person

Re: gnome-screensaver

2006-02-16 Thread Dan Winship
Davyd Madeley wrote: > Some of us > care that the GNOME we ship and give out tarballs for is sane and cogent > and makes sense by itself. But it doesn't make sense by itself. GNOME doesn't contain a kernel, a C library, or an X server. It only contains half of a printing architecture (the half tha

Re: gnome-screensaver

2006-02-16 Thread David Zeuthen
being a drama queen :-) > > So I don't really see your point, sorry, and what seriously worries me > > is your rather silly suggestion about adding duplicate UI in > > gnome-screensaver. Do you really want to add UI that is most likely to > > go away in 2.16 if and whe

Re: gnome-screensaver

2006-02-16 Thread David Zeuthen
On Thu, 2006-02-16 at 14:52 +0800, Davyd Madeley wrote: > If this is what > Redhat thinks of the work done I thought it was obvious, but I'd like to point out that I'm not speaking on behalf of Red Hat on this matter. David ___ desktop-devel-lis

Re: gnome-screensaver

2006-02-15 Thread Vincent Untz
> >> > was considered more of a "power" thing than "screensaver" thing. You > > >> > can > > >> > configure monitor power down settings using gnome-power-preferences. [...] > > I see two solutions to this: > > (1)

Re: gnome-screensaver

2006-02-15 Thread Davyd Madeley
hould consist of someone from Redhat and someone from Novell and someone from Canonical and someone from Sun and whoever else wants to buy themselves a seat at the table. > So I don't really see your point, sorry, and what seriously worries me > is your rather silly suggestion about adding

Re: gnome-screensaver

2006-02-15 Thread David Zeuthen
e trying to paint of our vendors is sad.. surely they know what to do, this is hardly rocket science [1]. So I don't really see your point, sorry, and what seriously worries me is your rather silly suggestion about adding duplicate UI in gnome-screensaver. Do you really want to add UI that

Re: gnome-screensaver

2006-02-15 Thread Shaun McCance
gt; then we want to change to the link button (because it makes sense) as > > that will confuse 2.14 users. > > Or perhaps we will not. We are however facing a serious regression now > in which > if a vendor decides to ship THE MODULES WE HAVE SAID "HERE, USE THESE", they &g

Re: gnome-screensaver

2006-02-14 Thread Davyd Madeley
THAT USED TO WORK PRETTY GOOD BEFORE I UPGRADED. I see two solutions to this: (1) solve the regression; or (2) punt gnome-screensaver until gnome-power-manager can also be included I personally think that (1) is the correct solution here, mostly because I think that monitor sleep time should b

Re: gnome-screensaver

2006-02-14 Thread David Zeuthen
On Mon, 2006-02-13 at 23:03 +0800, Davyd Madeley wrote: > On Mon, 2006-02-13 at 14:56 +, Richard Hughes wrote: > > On Mon, 2006-02-13 at 22:03 +0800, Davyd Madeley wrote: > > > - power monitors down after ... (we should interact with g-p-m if it is > > > available, else handle it directly) > >

Re: gnome-screensaver

2006-02-13 Thread Davyd Madeley
On Mon, 2006-02-13 at 14:56 +, Richard Hughes wrote: > On Mon, 2006-02-13 at 22:03 +0800, Davyd Madeley wrote: > > - power monitors down after ... (we should interact with g-p-m if it is > > available, else handle it directly) > > This was moved to gnome-power-manager by Jon, as monitor DPMS

Re: gnome-screensaver

2006-02-13 Thread Richard Hughes
On Mon, 2006-02-13 at 22:03 +0800, Davyd Madeley wrote: > - power monitors down after ... (we should interact with g-p-m if it is > available, else handle it directly) This was moved to gnome-power-manager by Jon, as monitor DPMS control was considered more of a "power" thing than "screensaver" t

Re: gnome-screensaver

2006-02-13 Thread Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro
On Seg, 2006-02-13 at 11:19 +, Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro wrote: > On Tue, 2006-02-07 at 12:10 +0800, Davyd Madeley wrote: > > I see that both Ubuntu Dapper and Fedora Core 5 test 2 are shipping > > with gnome-screensaver now. > > > > Having now used both of them, d

Re: gnome-screensaver

2006-02-13 Thread Davyd Madeley
not). I haven't actually tested gnome-screensaver properly in Xinerama environments (xscreensaver will place a different hack on each screen) so I don't know if that is working. I do like the cleanliness of the g-s properties, although I wonder if perhaps we now offer too few options.

Re: gnome-screensaver

2006-02-13 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Mon, 2006-02-13 at 11:19 +, Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro wrote: > On Tue, 2006-02-07 at 12:10 +0800, Davyd Madeley wrote: > > I see that both Ubuntu Dapper and Fedora Core 5 test 2 are shipping > > with gnome-screensaver now. > > > > Having now used both of them, d

Re: gnome-screensaver

2006-02-13 Thread Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro
On Tue, 2006-02-07 at 12:10 +0800, Davyd Madeley wrote: > I see that both Ubuntu Dapper and Fedora Core 5 test 2 are shipping > with gnome-screensaver now. > > Having now used both of them, does it seem slow for anyone else? It > seems that something has gone astray once or twice a

Re: gnome-screensaver

2006-02-07 Thread Kjartan Maraas
tir, 07,.02.2006 kl. 14.55 +0800, skrev Davyd Madeley: > On Tue, Feb 07, 2006 at 07:53:15AM +0100, Kjartan Maraas wrote: > > tir, 07,.02.2006 kl. 12.10 +0800, skrev Davyd Madeley: > > > I see that both Ubuntu Dapper and Fedora Core 5 test 2 are shipping > > >

Re: gnome-screensaver

2006-02-07 Thread Matthias Clasen
On 2/7/06, William Jon McCann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello Davyd, > > Davyd Madeley wrote: > > I see that both Ubuntu Dapper and Fedora Core 5 test 2 are shipping > > with gnome-screensaver now. > > > > Having now used both of them, does it seem

Re: gnome-screensaver

2006-02-07 Thread Davyd Madeley
On Tue, Feb 07, 2006 at 09:48:25AM -0500, William Jon McCann wrote: > Hello Davyd, > > Davyd Madeley wrote: > >I see that both Ubuntu Dapper and Fedora Core 5 test 2 are shipping > >with gnome-screensaver now. > > > >Having now used both of them, does it seem

Re: gnome-screensaver

2006-02-07 Thread William Jon McCann
Hello Davyd, Davyd Madeley wrote: I see that both Ubuntu Dapper and Fedora Core 5 test 2 are shipping with gnome-screensaver now. Having now used both of them, does it seem slow for anyone else? It seems that something has gone astray once or twice and forced me to have to change vt and kill

Re: gnome-screensaver

2006-02-06 Thread Davyd Madeley
On Tue, Feb 07, 2006 at 07:53:15AM +0100, Kjartan Maraas wrote: > tir, 07,.02.2006 kl. 12.10 +0800, skrev Davyd Madeley: > > I see that both Ubuntu Dapper and Fedora Core 5 test 2 are shipping > > with gnome-screensaver now. > > > > Having now used both of them, does i

Re: gnome-screensaver

2006-02-06 Thread Kjartan Maraas
tir, 07,.02.2006 kl. 12.10 +0800, skrev Davyd Madeley: > I see that both Ubuntu Dapper and Fedora Core 5 test 2 are shipping > with gnome-screensaver now. > > Having now used both of them, does it seem slow for anyone else? It > seems that something has gone astray once or twice a

gnome-screensaver

2006-02-06 Thread Davyd Madeley
I see that both Ubuntu Dapper and Fedora Core 5 test 2 are shipping with gnome-screensaver now. Having now used both of them, does it seem slow for anyone else? It seems that something has gone astray once or twice and forced me to have to change vt and kill the process to get my session back. I

Re: Proposal for inclusion in desktop: gnome-screensaver

2005-10-27 Thread Luca Ferretti
nd/or that users should be able to configure timeouts). Here (in Italy) here is a law modeled on Section 508 and WCAG 1.0 [1]. A requisite for this law is something like: if a service is available only within a T time, you have to declare it to the user and advise about the maximum time. So: *

Re: Proposal for inclusion in desktop: gnome-screensaver

2005-10-27 Thread Matthew Thomas
;s account, saves the child's unsaved documents etc, and shuts down the computer for the night. gnome-screensaver should, like gdm, offer to suspend the computer. ... And if you are asking for a password to do it, then, why can't you just enter the password, and go to Desktop->Log o

Re: Proposal for inclusion in desktop: gnome-screensaver

2005-10-27 Thread Xavier Bestel
Child's mother comes along, unlocks > > > the child's account, saves the child's unsaved documents etc, and shuts > > > down the computer for the night. > > > > gnome-screensaver should, like gdm, offer to suspend the computer. > > > hmm, where, i

Re: Proposal for inclusion in desktop: gnome-screensaver

2005-10-27 Thread Rodrigo Moya
e child's unsaved documents etc, and shuts > > down the computer for the night. > > gnome-screensaver should, like gdm, offer to suspend the computer. > hmm, where, in the lock dialog? If so, anyone could walk though your machine, which might be doing some background work, and s

Re: Proposal for inclusion in desktop: gnome-screensaver

2005-10-27 Thread Xavier Bestel
Le mercredi 26 octobre 2005 à 23:39 -0200, Matthew Thomas a écrit : > Use case: A child leaves > the screen locked and goes to bed. Child's mother comes along, unlocks > the child's account, saves the child's unsaved documents etc, and shuts > down the computer for th

Re: Proposal for inclusion in desktop: gnome-screensaver

2005-10-26 Thread Matthew Thomas
On 26 Oct, 2005, at 11:11 AM, JP Rosevear wrote: ... I think its wrong to assume the face stuff will be used everywhere and then to feature it prominently, essentially forcing it to be used or to get a meaningless (large) abstract person all the time ... Agreed -- I don't like being goateed a

Re: Proposal for inclusion in desktop: gnome-screensaver

2005-10-26 Thread Henrique Rocha
This is my first post to this list. :-) It would be useful, at least in my college to know for how long the computer has been locked. I think a boolean 'lock_time' key in gconf would be useful, so that a sysadmin could set it as mandatory.-- Henrique Manuel Rocha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Administração d

Re: Proposal for inclusion in desktop: gnome-screensaver

2005-10-26 Thread Alan Cox
On Mer, 2005-10-26 at 10:31 -0700, Rob Adams wrote: > scheme whereby the login dialog first authenticates itself to the user > before the user typing in the password to avoid that, or a button you > press before the login screen presents itself which is intercepted at > the kernel level to cause th

Re: Proposal for inclusion in desktop: gnome-screensaver

2005-10-26 Thread Shaun McCance
politically. [snip] Yeah, I figured there would be lots of technical hurdles to get past for this. I just want to throw in my support for this as a long-term goal. For now, gnome-screensaver is definitely a big improvement. > > * As long as we have the model we have now, the user-switch

Re: Proposal for inclusion in desktop: gnome-screensaver

2005-10-26 Thread William Jon McCann
Rob Adams wrote: The moral of the story is you're screwed on multi-user terminals. That is, if you rely on prompting the user for passwords alone. Jon ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/list

Re: Proposal for inclusion in desktop: gnome-screensaver

2005-10-26 Thread Rob Adams
e: > Rodney Dawes wrote: > > 3. Unlocking the screen with the root password should do the same as > > choosing switch users, and logging in as root. Not doing so is a privacy > > and security issue, as it may allow root access to remote hosts, that > > root normally does not

Re: Proposal for inclusion in desktop: gnome-screensaver

2005-10-26 Thread JP Rosevear
On Wed, 2005-10-26 at 10:44 -0400, Rodney Dawes wrote: > On Tue, 2005-10-25 at 13:57 -0400, JP Rosevear wrote: > > On Tue, 2005-10-25 at 12:07 -0400, William Jon McCann wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > > > I am pleased to propose gnome-screensaver for inclusion in t

Re: Proposal for inclusion in desktop: gnome-screensaver

2005-10-26 Thread William Jon McCann
You weren't cheating and reading the code [1] were you? ;) That is how it works now. However, you'll most likely need to setuid to root for this to actually work. Jon [1] http://cvs.gnome.org/viewcvs/gnome-screensaver/src/passwd-pam.c?v

Re: Proposal for inclusion in desktop: gnome-screensaver

2005-10-26 Thread Pat Suwalski
William Jon McCann wrote: >> How about... >> >> 3. Unlocking the screen with the root password should do the same as >> choosing switch users, and logging in as root. Not doing so is a privacy >> and security issue, as it may allow root access to remote hosts, that >> root normally does not have ac

Re: Proposal for inclusion in desktop: gnome-screensaver

2005-10-26 Thread William Jon McCann
l end up at someone's locked screen. There must be a way for the user to get back home to their VT. I think in the long run we can integrate FUSA, GDM, and gnome-screensaver better but we have some more work to do. * As long as we have the model we have now, the user-switching dialog n

Re: Proposal for inclusion in desktop: gnome-screensaver

2005-10-26 Thread Jeff Waugh
> I've long held that XP got the interaction right. There's just one login > screen. Unlocking your screen is just logging back in again. Switching > users is just logging in. > > Right now, we have the OS X interaction: We have a login screen and a > separate unlock dialog. The unlock dialo

Re: Proposal for inclusion in desktop: gnome-screensaver

2005-10-26 Thread Shaun McCance
On Tue, 2005-10-25 at 12:07 -0400, William Jon McCann wrote: > Hello, > > I am pleased to propose gnome-screensaver for inclusion in the GNOME > 2.14 Desktop release. > > gnome-screensaver is a new screensaver that can replace xscreensaver. It > is designed to integrate

Re: Proposal for inclusion in desktop: gnome-screensaver

2005-10-26 Thread Dan Winship
password into gnome-screensaver (when a non-root user is logged in) should not do anything special at all, because the administrator has no way of knowing that the "unlock dialog" isn't really a trojan horse being run by the logged-in user, and so we really shouldn't give him an

Re: Proposal for inclusion in desktop: gnome-screensaver

2005-10-26 Thread Xavier Bestel
On Wed, 2005-10-26 at 17:29, Rodney Dawes wrote: > If someone has physical access to the machine, they can just unplug it > and walk out the door too. Doesn't mean that our software should promote > lack of privacy. If that's the case, let's just drop the screensaver > totally. What's the point if

Re: Proposal for inclusion in desktop: gnome-screensaver

2005-10-26 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Wed, 2005-10-26 at 17:15 +0200, Xavier Bestel wrote: > On Wed, 2005-10-26 at 17:03, Rodney Dawes wrote: > > On Wed, 2005-10-26 at 16:54 +0200, Xavier Bestel wrote: > > > On Wed, 2005-10-26 at 16:44, Rodney Dawes wrote: > > > > > > > 3. Unlocking the screen with the root password should do the s

Re: Proposal for inclusion in desktop: gnome-screensaver

2005-10-26 Thread Alan Cox
On Mer, 2005-10-26 at 17:15 +0200, Xavier Bestel wrote: > Root can gain access to your DISPLAY (~/.Xauthority), your tty, your env > vars, strace or gdb a process, etc. It can even simply kill the Depends how your security model is set up. GNOME runs on several platforms (Linux included) with mor

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