Max Bowsher, thank you for your comments. Regarding them
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-
installer/+bug/1058040/comments/44 :
>"Why are you so very determined to make this bug's description LESS
useful for users?"
What I am determined to do is make sure the the information provid
Gentlemen; please. This is a minor disagreement that is distracting from
the main issue. We know that AMD have not yet released drivers for a set
of older cards that work with Quantal (or more specifically, xserver
1.13). Let's focus on that.
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@ Christopher Penalver:
Why are you so very determined to make this bug's description LESS
useful for users?
I have a FirePro V5700 [RV730] which is affected by this. The
nomenclature "HD2000-4000" doesn't identify this card at all. The chip
information is vastly more useful in identifying whethe
** Description changed:
Following the AMD decision to change to a new driver support model for
- Radeon™ HD 4000, HD 3000 and HD 2000 series cards as per
- http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/legacy/Pages/legacy-
- radeon_linux.aspx , fglrx-installer installs non-working drivers.
+ Radeo
Max Bowsher, thank you for your comments. Regarding them
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/1058040/comments/42
:
>"Your comment-less removal of a useful part of the bug description after the
>confrontations already occurred in this bug is frankly rude."
Dave Lentz's
** Description changed:
Following the AMD decision to change to a new driver support model for
Radeon™ HD 4000, HD 3000 and HD 2000 series cards as per
http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/legacy/Pages/legacy-
radeon_linux.aspx , fglrx-installer installs non-working drivers.
NO
** Description changed:
Following the AMD decision to change to a new driver support model for
Radeon™ HD 4000, HD 3000 and HD 2000 series cards as per
http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/legacy/Pages/legacy-
radeon_linux.aspx , fglrx-installer installs non-working drivers.
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+ NO
@Christopher Penalver:
Your comment-less removal of a useful part of the bug description after
the confrontations already occurred in this bug is frankly rude. I shall
add it back with additional notes.
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** Description changed:
Following the AMD decision to change to a new driver support model for
Radeon™ HD 4000, HD 3000 and HD 2000 series cards as per
http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/legacy/Pages/legacy-
radeon_linux.aspx , fglrx-installer installs non-working drivers.
-
- NO
Ok guys, stop fighting. Before changing anything, lets establish the
facts. According to Sean's lspci in bug 1075035 he has a:
VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RV770
[FireStream 9250] [1002:9452] (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
Subsystem: Advanced Micro Devic
@Christopher Penalver: We've already gone over this. AMD's website often
leaves out pertinent information and is not an infallible source of
information. I've asked nicely before, but it appears I need to be more
forceful: STOP UNDOING MY COMMENTS/EDITS.
Thanks for your understanding...
** Descri
Dave Lentz, thank you for your comments. Regarding them
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/1058040/comments/38
:
>"The Firestream 9250 is based on an RV770 (RadeonHD 4x00 series) chip, so it
>is included in this bug report."
At this point, it is not included, as your
@Christopher Penalver: The Firestream 9250 is based on an RV770
(RadeonHD 4x00 series) chip, so it is included in this bug report. I've
tried to update the description to be more concise. If you're unsure,
consult
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_AMD_graphics_processing_units
@Sean Fitzp
** Description changed:
Following the AMD decision to change to a new driver support model for
Radeon™ HD 4000, HD 3000 and HD 2000 series cards as per
http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/legacy/Pages/legacy-
radeon_linux.aspx , fglrx-installer installs non-working drivers.
+
+ NO
Sorry for the mix-up. The problem sounded identical to mine, and I was
limited in my abilities to search around since my screen resolution was
shot to the point that firefox was too wide to fit on the screen. I've
added a new bug and subscribed you as suggested.
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Sean Fitzpatrick, as your AMD Firestream 9250 is not a Radeon™ HD 4000,
HD 3000 or HD 2000 series card as noted in the Bug Description and Bug
Summary, your problem is not covered by this report. As well, as per
http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles/Pages/AMDCatalystSoftwareSuiteVersion1211BetaRelea
I can add the AMD Firestream 9250 to the list of affected video cards -
just upgraded and I've got the same problems as everyone else in this
report. I'll try the open source drivers until I can get enough of a
working desktop to investigate further. (I'm having trouble even viewing
a website on fi
Well, that is interesting on several fronts. The new driver does what I
need, so I will stick with it. I am retired and not much of a computer
user. People using development suites may have trouble, and this is, as
far as I am concerned, an ongoing problem with the driver which, all
things being
No to be a downer, but my experience with the open source is so poor
that it is close to unusable for me. I work with eclipse and I keep on
loosing the window, at first I tought eclipse was crashing but all
processes were there, is just the windows that were gone from the
desktop.
Unity is really
@John Winterton - You are half right. CPU overhead is higher with the
open-source radeon driver than with the closed-source Catalyst (fglrx)
driver. However the ATI/AMD GPU is used as much more than just a
presentation device - most of the 3D calculations and rendering
(including parts of Ubuntu'
My experience is unfortunately quite poor with my Mobility Radeon HD
3650 (RV635)
The dash is slow, it takes a few seconds to come up and if I type
anything in it takes a second for it to show what I've typed and even
longer to find results. It was so slow that I went straight back to
12.04 where
@Dave Lents: Well, that might make it worth pursuing were I running a
laptop. I do understand that the default driver probably runs up the
main cpu(s) at high revs and uses the ATI/AMD module strictly as a
presentation device, if that. My older Radeon 3000 GPU (AMD RS780 on-
board chip set) neve
@John Winterton: my experience (RadeonHD 4550) matches yours, but most
mobile users get shorter battery life and higher temps with the open
source radeon driver.
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It would appear that the need for a proprietary Radeon driver is moot.
My system performs well without fglrx.
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@Neil Burgin - I'm glad to hear that you are satisfied with the
performance of the current open-source radeon driver. There have indeed
been many recent performance improvements to the open-source radeon 3D
graphics driver. This includes radeon KMS page-flipping which was
introduced in the 2.6.38
@madbiologist: Honestly I had not tried using any 3D accelerated games
with the default Open-Source Radeon driver because I assumed it would
not work. But I just now tried extreme tux racer and it worked just
fine. I guess the open-source 3D graphics driver architecture has
advanced by leaps and bo
@marcel Indeed. Is HP the only manufacturer providing dual ATI? I have a
G62 as you can see in bug #1070531 . I could turn that one into a bug
that affects dual ATI laptops from HP, what do you think about that?
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@montblanc Exactly the same behaviour here with an Hp Dv6 with ATI RS880M
[Mobility Radeon HD 4200 Series]
I tried both with that ppa and building the packages off the 12.6 legacy driver
zip from amd.
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@Neil Burgin - Given that you have not had success in downgrading the
xserver using the makson PPA, I thought I would followup on your comment
#6. When you say "I have to run CPU Mesa for 3D", are you saying that
your system is falling back to Mesa's LLVMpipe software 3D renderer on
your CPU and n
Re comment #4 - according to
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTEzNDA ATI will not
be adding support for newer xservers or kernels to their legacy Catalyst
(fglrx) driver.
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** Description changed:
Following the AMD decision to change to a new driver support model for
Radeon™ HD 4000, HD 3000 and HD 2000 series cards as per
http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/legacy/Pages/legacy-
radeon_linux.aspx , fglrx-installer installs non-working drivers.
I
fglrx will not load at all on my AMD/ATI RS780 chip set (on my mobo).
Doesn't seem to make much difference, as my system runs just fine in DVI
mode, and the one game I have that requires accelerated sound and video
operates correctly. The default(?) driver does the job for me.
Description:Ubu
@Montblanc: I think that's what happened to me. I didn't check the
debugging output so I wasn't aware of any segmentation fault but I know
that I was booting by default into a black screen, and I had to but into
one of the back-up kernels that grub keeps handy and run ppa-purge.
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I have the same problem with [Mobility Radeon HD 4650] on HP Pavilion
dv7 2030er
$ sudo modprobe fglrx
FATAL: Error inserting fglrx
(/lib/modules/3.5.0-17-generic/updates/dkms/fglrx.ko): No such device
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Eh... That is, I would say it was the best solution, if it actually
worked... It broke my system and I had to run ppa-purge on it. I might
try it again in a week or 2, see if it can get the kinks worked out.
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Installing fglrx-legacy from makson96's ppa didn't work for my RS800 (HD
4200). X segfaults and I only get a black screen, no matter which
xorg.conf I use.
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@jfernyhough : I'm glad that there at least is a PPA to fix it.
For me and everyone else with a legacy radeon card, the loss of fglrx is
much, much, much worse than not having whatever little subtle
improvements that there were from 1.12 to 1.13. Until AMD updates its
driver, I would say that the
** Summary changed:
- fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards
+ fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal
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