[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal

2012-11-06 Thread Christopher M. Penalver
Max Bowsher, thank you for your comments. Regarding them https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx- installer/+bug/1058040/comments/44 : >"Why are you so very determined to make this bug's description LESS useful for users?" What I am determined to do is make sure the the information provid

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal

2012-11-06 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
Gentlemen; please. This is a minor disagreement that is distracting from the main issue. We know that AMD have not yet released drivers for a set of older cards that work with Quantal (or more specifically, xserver 1.13). Let's focus on that. -- You received this bug notification because you are

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal

2012-11-06 Thread Christopher M. Penalver
Marking Triaged Wishlist, as the issues surrounding this bug report have been identified by the Ubuntu X team as per https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-x/2012-November/001234.html . Marking Wishlist as per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Importance as this is a bug "that would only be fixed on a

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal

2012-11-06 Thread Max Bowsher
@ Christopher Penalver: Why are you so very determined to make this bug's description LESS useful for users? I have a FirePro V5700 [RV730] which is affected by this. The nomenclature "HD2000-4000" doesn't identify this card at all. The chip information is vastly more useful in identifying whethe

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal

2012-11-06 Thread Christopher M. Penalver
** Description changed: Following the AMD decision to change to a new driver support model for - Radeon™ HD 4000, HD 3000 and HD 2000 series cards as per - http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/legacy/Pages/legacy- - radeon_linux.aspx , fglrx-installer installs non-working drivers. + Radeo

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal

2012-11-06 Thread Christopher M. Penalver
Max Bowsher, thank you for your comments. Regarding them https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/1058040/comments/42 : >"Your comment-less removal of a useful part of the bug description after the >confrontations already occurred in this bug is frankly rude." Dave Lentz's

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal

2012-11-06 Thread Max Bowsher
** Description changed: Following the AMD decision to change to a new driver support model for Radeon™ HD 4000, HD 3000 and HD 2000 series cards as per http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/legacy/Pages/legacy- radeon_linux.aspx , fglrx-installer installs non-working drivers. NO

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal

2012-11-06 Thread Max Bowsher
** Description changed: Following the AMD decision to change to a new driver support model for Radeon™ HD 4000, HD 3000 and HD 2000 series cards as per http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/legacy/Pages/legacy- radeon_linux.aspx , fglrx-installer installs non-working drivers. + + NO

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal

2012-11-06 Thread Max Bowsher
@Christopher Penalver: Your comment-less removal of a useful part of the bug description after the confrontations already occurred in this bug is frankly rude. I shall add it back with additional notes. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal

2012-11-06 Thread Christopher M. Penalver
** Description changed: Following the AMD decision to change to a new driver support model for Radeon™ HD 4000, HD 3000 and HD 2000 series cards as per http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/legacy/Pages/legacy- radeon_linux.aspx , fglrx-installer installs non-working drivers. - - NO

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal

2012-11-05 Thread madbiologist
Ok guys, stop fighting. Before changing anything, lets establish the facts. According to Sean's lspci in bug 1075035 he has a: VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RV770 [FireStream 9250] [1002:9452] (prog-if 00 [VGA controller]) Subsystem: Advanced Micro Devic

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal

2012-11-05 Thread Dave Lentz
@Christopher Penalver: We've already gone over this. AMD's website often leaves out pertinent information and is not an infallible source of information. I've asked nicely before, but it appears I need to be more forceful: STOP UNDOING MY COMMENTS/EDITS. Thanks for your understanding... ** Descri

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal

2012-11-05 Thread Christopher M. Penalver
Dave Lentz, thank you for your comments. Regarding them https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/1058040/comments/38 : >"The Firestream 9250 is based on an RV770 (RadeonHD 4x00 series) chip, so it >is included in this bug report." At this point, it is not included, as your

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal

2012-11-05 Thread Dave Lentz
@Christopher Penalver: The Firestream 9250 is based on an RV770 (RadeonHD 4x00 series) chip, so it is included in this bug report. I've tried to update the description to be more concise. If you're unsure, consult http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_AMD_graphics_processing_units @Sean Fitzp

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal

2012-11-05 Thread Dave Lentz
** Description changed: Following the AMD decision to change to a new driver support model for Radeon™ HD 4000, HD 3000 and HD 2000 series cards as per http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/legacy/Pages/legacy- radeon_linux.aspx , fglrx-installer installs non-working drivers. + + NO

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal

2012-11-04 Thread Sean Fitzpatrick
Sorry for the mix-up. The problem sounded identical to mine, and I was limited in my abilities to search around since my screen resolution was shot to the point that firefox was too wide to fit on the screen. I've added a new bug and subscribed you as suggested. -- You received this bug notificat

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal

2012-11-04 Thread Christopher M. Penalver
Sean Fitzpatrick, as your AMD Firestream 9250 is not a Radeon™ HD 4000, HD 3000 or HD 2000 series card as noted in the Bug Description and Bug Summary, your problem is not covered by this report. As well, as per http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles/Pages/AMDCatalystSoftwareSuiteVersion1211BetaRelea

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal

2012-11-04 Thread Sean Fitzpatrick
I can add the AMD Firestream 9250 to the list of affected video cards - just upgraded and I've got the same problems as everyone else in this report. I'll try the open source drivers until I can get enough of a working desktop to investigate further. (I'm having trouble even viewing a website on fi

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal

2012-11-01 Thread John Winterton
Well, that is interesting on several fronts. The new driver does what I need, so I will stick with it. I am retired and not much of a computer user. People using development suites may have trouble, and this is, as far as I am concerned, an ongoing problem with the driver which, all things being

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal

2012-11-01 Thread marcel
No to be a downer, but my experience with the open source is so poor that it is close to unusable for me. I work with eclipse and I keep on loosing the window, at first I tought eclipse was crashing but all processes were there, is just the windows that were gone from the desktop. Unity is really

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal

2012-11-01 Thread madbiologist
@John Winterton - You are half right. CPU overhead is higher with the open-source radeon driver than with the closed-source Catalyst (fglrx) driver. However the ATI/AMD GPU is used as much more than just a presentation device - most of the 3D calculations and rendering (including parts of Ubuntu'

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal

2012-10-31 Thread David Jones
My experience is unfortunately quite poor with my Mobility Radeon HD 3650 (RV635) The dash is slow, it takes a few seconds to come up and if I type anything in it takes a second for it to show what I've typed and even longer to find results. It was so slow that I went straight back to 12.04 where

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal

2012-10-31 Thread John Winterton
@Dave Lents: Well, that might make it worth pursuing were I running a laptop. I do understand that the default driver probably runs up the main cpu(s) at high revs and uses the ATI/AMD module strictly as a presentation device, if that. My older Radeon 3000 GPU (AMD RS780 on- board chip set) neve

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal

2012-10-31 Thread Dave Lentz
@John Winterton: my experience (RadeonHD 4550) matches yours, but most mobile users get shorter battery life and higher temps with the open source radeon driver. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in Ubuntu. h

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal

2012-10-31 Thread John Winterton
It would appear that the need for a proprietary Radeon driver is moot. My system performs well without fglrx. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1058040 Title: fgl

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal

2012-10-31 Thread madbiologist
@Neil Burgin - I'm glad to hear that you are satisfied with the performance of the current open-source radeon driver. There have indeed been many recent performance improvements to the open-source radeon 3D graphics driver. This includes radeon KMS page-flipping which was introduced in the 2.6.38

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal

2012-10-30 Thread Neil Burgin
@madbiologist: Honestly I had not tried using any 3D accelerated games with the default Open-Source Radeon driver because I assumed it would not work. But I just now tried extreme tux racer and it worked just fine. I guess the open-source 3D graphics driver architecture has advanced by leaps and bo

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal

2012-10-30 Thread Montblanc
@marcel Indeed. Is HP the only manufacturer providing dual ATI? I have a G62 as you can see in bug #1070531 . I could turn that one into a bug that affects dual ATI laptops from HP, what do you think about that? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, w

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal

2012-10-30 Thread marcel
@montblanc Exactly the same behaviour here with an Hp Dv6 with ATI RS880M [Mobility Radeon HD 4200 Series] I tried both with that ppa and building the packages off the 12.6 legacy driver zip from amd. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is s

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal

2012-10-30 Thread madbiologist
@Neil Burgin - Given that you have not had success in downgrading the xserver using the makson PPA, I thought I would followup on your comment #6. When you say "I have to run CPU Mesa for 3D", are you saying that your system is falling back to Mesa's LLVMpipe software 3D renderer on your CPU and n

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal

2012-10-30 Thread madbiologist
Re comment #4 - according to http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTEzNDA ATI will not be adding support for newer xservers or kernels to their legacy Catalyst (fglrx) driver. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal

2012-10-29 Thread Dave Lentz
** Description changed: Following the AMD decision to change to a new driver support model for Radeon™ HD 4000, HD 3000 and HD 2000 series cards as per http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/legacy/Pages/legacy- radeon_linux.aspx , fglrx-installer installs non-working drivers. I

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal

2012-10-29 Thread John Winterton
fglrx will not load at all on my AMD/ATI RS780 chip set (on my mobo). Doesn't seem to make much difference, as my system runs just fine in DVI mode, and the one game I have that requires accelerated sound and video operates correctly. The default(?) driver does the job for me. Description:Ubu

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal

2012-10-29 Thread Neil Burgin
@Montblanc: I think that's what happened to me. I didn't check the debugging output so I wasn't aware of any segmentation fault but I know that I was booting by default into a black screen, and I had to but into one of the back-up kernels that grub keeps handy and run ppa-purge. -- You received t

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal

2012-10-26 Thread Beowulf
I have the same problem with [Mobility Radeon HD 4650] on HP Pavilion dv7 2030er $ sudo modprobe fglrx FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/3.5.0-17-generic/updates/dkms/fglrx.ko): No such device -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal

2012-10-23 Thread Neil Burgin
Eh... That is, I would say it was the best solution, if it actually worked... It broke my system and I had to run ppa-purge on it. I might try it again in a week or 2, see if it can get the kinks worked out. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal

2012-10-23 Thread Montblanc
Installing fglrx-legacy from makson96's ppa didn't work for my RS800 (HD 4200). X segfaults and I only get a black screen, no matter which xorg.conf I use. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in Ubuntu. https:/

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal

2012-10-23 Thread Neil Burgin
@jfernyhough : I'm glad that there at least is a PPA to fix it. For me and everyone else with a legacy radeon card, the loss of fglrx is much, much, much worse than not having whatever little subtle improvements that there were from 1.12 to 1.13. Until AMD updates its driver, I would say that the

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal

2012-10-22 Thread Christopher M. Penalver
** Summary changed: - fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards + fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to fglrx-installer in Ubuntu. https:/