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An issue with an undesired font being selected has been reported at bug
#1227034. I would recommend everyone with an interest in the topic to
get involved in that bug.
Closing this bug report now.
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Status: In Progress = Fix Released
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Thanks for the explanation, Jack. Then I suppose that fonts-droid is
already shipped in Ubuntu Kylin just like in standard Ubuntu.
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fonts-droid has been included in the Ubuntu seed for a few months now,
and I have proposed that flavor distros change their seeds in the same
way.
@Aron: I couldn't find any ubuntukylin.trusty branch in ubuntu-seeds.
Where did you hide it? ;-)
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@gunnarhj, Ubuntu Kylin doesn't have seed, we only use default-settings
package to customize.
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Title:
please change
See that. Probably right now it's the best arrangement for Hong Kong
users as well given currently (limited) resource.
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In reply to comment 41:
The 2 reports are not entirely related. But I hope this report is only
limited to the scope of 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf. The case for
Hong Kong is more serious, in that *none* of the fonts described above
have enough coverage of Hong Kong Supplementary Character Set
Actually, so far this bug has resulted in the changes stated in comment
#21, #24 and #26, so Droid Sans Fallback is indeed used in zh-hk
already.
http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/trusty/language-
selector/trusty/view/head:/fontconfig/69-language-selector-zh-hk.conf
It's also
Bug #1270647 is possibly related.
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Title:
please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-
Yes, it is better to use Western serif font listed before AR PL UMing for serif
font family if we want to have a better looking for Western characters.
In short, my point is to use those fonts in better compliance with Taiwan's
standard instead of those are not.
I am not willing to have better
OK, I will try to figure out which configuration play a big role to list
AR PL UMing as the first one in serif style when I am free, and then
file another bug report for that issue. It might around Chinese new year
though. :P
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There is another way to fix this problem.
That is make another Droid Sans Taiwanese font just like the way that Droid
Sans Japanese font does.
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@fourdolars:
I agree with the part helping the development of CJKUnifonts. However, it is no
sense to use AR PL UMing for all styles as AR PL UMing is a serif style font
and can only be used in serif part. BTW, the configuration is using AR PL UMing
now.
So the issue here is which font we
Just FYI, one of the reasons why WQY Microhei is not maintained is that,
at some time a Droid Sans Fallback update released by Google contains
many more characters than in Microhei, while the project's initial goal
was to expand the original Droid Sans to get better coverage.
It's currently
I suggest to use the fonts as the following order.
Ubuntu, AR PL, cwTeX, MOE, and then CNS11643.
Pro: Better looking in English and better following of Taiwan standard.
Con: The programs that don't have font-config suppprt will be not able to see
Chinese characters.
If we find the programs don't
Your suggestion will create another issue on typography that ubuntu font
is sans-serif style while AR PL UMing and CNS11643 are serif style.
Plus, AR PL UMing covers more characters than cwTeX and MOE, there is
low probability fallbacking to them.
And we have already been using AR PL UMing for
How about to find another English font to replace Ubuntu font in serif
style?
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Title:
please change wenquanyi micro
I don't actually get what you mean here. But I guess that you are
talking about it is better to use Western serif font listed before AR PL
UMing for serif font family.
69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf does not affect the result about serif
font family strongly. It is always using AR PL UMing first
@zerng07: I think CJKUnifonts does want to follow Taiwan's standard (CNS11643),
China's standard (GB18030), and other countries' standard also.
However this project seema to stop the development since 2010
(http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/CJKUnifonts/).
CJKUnifonts is a truely open
BTW, there are other fonts: fonts-cwtex-* following Taiwan standard and
licensed by GPL-2+.
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Title:
please change
@fourdollars Actually, CJKUnifonts (AR PL UMing and AR PL UKai) do not
follow Taiwan standard too. That's because they both were composed of
Traditional style and Simplified style fonts before.
AR PL UMing is compoesed of 文鼎細上海宋繁 and 文鼎報宋簡 while AR PL UKai is
composed of 文鼎中楷繁 and 文鼎中楷簡.
For
The fonts that follow Taiwan standard are fonts-arphic-uming,
fonts-arphic-ukai, fonts-moe-standard-kai, fonts-moe-standard-song
fonts-cns11643-kai and fonts-cns11643-sung.
I think we should avoid using other fonts in 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf.
For more information, please see the
But Droid Sans can give way better screen experience than the
alternatives you pointed above. And I believe it's more reasonable to
default to those fonts in printing materials, i.e. in libreoffice.
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fonts-droid will now be seeded instead of ttf-wqy-microhei in the Ubuntu trusty
ISOs.
http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntu.trusty/revision/2189
Keeping the Ubuntu Seeds task open, since we should make this change for
other distros if it proves to be well received in
** Also affects: ubuntu-seeds
Importance: Undecided
Status: New
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Title:
please change wenquanyi micro hei
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Title:
please change wenquanyi micro hei back
** Changed in: ubuntu-seeds
Status: New = In Progress
** Changed in: ubuntu-seeds
Assignee: (unassigned) = Gunnar Hjalmarsson (gunnarhj)
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ttf-wqy-microhei is seeded too. Should this be changed?
ttf-wqy-microhei (from ttf-wqy-microhei) is seeded in:
edubuntu: dvd
kubuntu-active: daily-live
kubuntu: daily-live
lubuntu: daily, daily-live, daily-preinstalled
ubuntu-gnome: daily-live
ubuntu: daily-live
ubuntukylin:
fonts-android is not in main.
laney@raleigh rmadison -S -s trusty fonts-android
fonts-android |1:4.3-1 | trusty/universe | source
fonts-droid |1:4.3-1 | trusty/universe | all
fonts-roboto |1:4.3-1 | trusty/universe | all
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Title:
please change wenquanyi
This bug was fixed in the package ttf-wqy-microhei -
0.2.0-beta-1.1ubuntu4
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* debian/65-ttf-wqy-microhei.conf:
Outdated DejaVu bindings removed (LP: #1173571).
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Right, Iain, I was wrong when I said in comment #20 that fonts-android
is already in main, and have now filed a MIR application as bug
#1249132.
On 2013-11-07 12:12, Iain Lane wrote:
ttf-wqy-microhei is seeded too. Should this be changed?
Seeding fonts-droid instead of ttf-wqy-microhei is
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This bug was fixed in the package language-selector - 0.118
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* data/pkg_depends:
ttf-wqy-zenhei replaced with fonts-droid for Chinese (LP: #1173571).
* fontconfig/69-language-selector-zh-hk.conf, -zh-cn.conf, -zh-sg.conf:
Could we start the MIP for fonts-droid these days to finish this issue?
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Title:
please change wenquanyi micro hei back
Gunnar Hjalmarsson (gunnarhj) wrote on 2013-05-29:
Would it possibly make sense to make those changes for traditional Chinese,
while keeping WenQuanYi Zen Hei for simplified Chinese?
I think it is much more readible and pretty for WQY Micro Hei than WQY
Zen Hei in simplified Chinese reader's
I think that the changes you made are right.
I STRONGLY recommend fonts-droid instead of wqy-microhei because
WenQuanYi project is not having any major progress or new releases in
last three years. Plus, wqy-microhei fail to display Korean characters.
It is not solved for some years since the day
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Thanks for the tests and analyses!
I have prepared a language-selector branch and a ttf-wqy-microhei branch
with the changes you propose. Please check them out carefully to help
prevent misunderstandings.
There is a but, though. ttf-wqy-microhei is already in the main pocket
of the Ubuntu
Hi, could anyone who could fix or improve the configurations review my
proposal?
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Title:
please change wenquanyi micro
After my testing, the good news is that insatalling fonts-droid will
provide better visual appearence and more readible than WQY zen-hei in
Chinese charaters.
However, 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf has a weird UNACCEPTABLE side
effect. It matches DejaVu Serif for sans-serif and monospace
** Patch removed: this is the patch to make WenQuanYi Micro Hei back to zh-tw
configuration
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-selector/+bug/1173571/+attachment/3656094/+files/add-microhei-back.patch
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Title:
please change wenquanyi micro hei back with
Thanks for your efforts on this matter, Cheng-Chia Tseng.
I have subscribed Ding Zhou to this bug report, since he was consulted
by Iain Lane about the Raring changes.
On 2013-05-26 11:34, Cheng-Chia Tseng wrote:
1. make Droid Sans Fallback as the first Chinese character providing
font listed
I will check that if the -zh-tw.conf provided in raring (which put Droid
Sans Fallback into first one) works fine or not if we install Droid Sans
Fallback recently.
Would it possibly make sense to make those changes for traditional
Chinese, while keeping WenQuanYi Zen Hei for simplified Chinese?
Another way to improve the unreadible Chinese characters is to install
Droid Sans Fallback and use it instead of WenQuanYi Zen Hei.
The reason to use Droid Sans Fallback instead of WenQaun Yi Micro Hei is
that WenQuanYi almostly stopped the development progress for about three
years while Droid
** Summary changed:
- please add wenquanyi micro hei settings back with
69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf
+ please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf
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I think that my title is not well described and does not fit my idea
well, so I change that.
Maybe that mislead readers to think that I was asking to add those
outdated settings about Micro Hei back in language-selector confs, but
that's not. To be clear, I just want to make Micro Hei back as the
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