[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1999308] Re: Snap keeps uninstalling apt Firefox, and reinstalling snap Firefox

2024-02-15 Thread Sebastien Bacher
it's not a firefox issue if it's cause by unattended-upgrade closing again ** Changed in: firefox (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed => Invalid -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to firefox in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1999308] Re: Snap keeps uninstalling apt Firefox, and reinstalling snap Firefox

2024-02-15 Thread Piotr Henryk Dabrowski
** Changed in: firefox (Ubuntu) Status: Invalid => Confirmed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to firefox in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1999308 Title: Snap keeps uninstalling apt Firefox, and reinstalling

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1999308] Re: Snap keeps uninstalling apt Firefox, and reinstalling snap Firefox

2023-08-31 Thread Piotr Henryk Dabrowski
This issue is 100% valid and caused by unattended-upgrades: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unattended- upgrades/+bug/2033646 Workaround: $ echo -e 'Package: firefox\nPin: release o=Ubuntu\nPin-Priority: 1' | sudo tee /etc/apt/preferences.d/firefox-workaround -- You received this bug

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1999308] Re: Snap keeps uninstalling apt Firefox, and reinstalling snap Firefox

2023-06-01 Thread Renn
> No, that's not the intended behaviour. Thanks for that. I apologize if I was sounding a bit cynical; I am not very happy with this move to Snap packages for certain applications, and it felt to me like steps were being taken to make it very difficult or impossible to avoid it. It turns out I ma

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1999308] Re: Snap keeps uninstalling apt Firefox, and reinstalling snap Firefox

2023-06-01 Thread herrsaalfeld
Package: firefox* Pin: release o=Ubuntu* Pin-Priority: -1 in combination with snap disable firefox as described in the above thread is robust for me. Holding firefox disables updates which is not desirable. Check man apt_preferences for the meaning of priorities: How APT Interprets Priorities

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1999308] Re: Snap keeps uninstalling apt Firefox, and reinstalling snap Firefox

2023-06-01 Thread Sebastien Bacher
> If this is intended behaviour, please confirm that the transitional Firefox DEB is *always* expected to take priority and users will never be allowed to permanently override it. No, that's not the intended behaviour. There is no nothing special about the firefox deb nor special handling in apt f

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1999308] Re: Snap keeps uninstalling apt Firefox, and reinstalling snap Firefox

2023-05-31 Thread Renn
I just registered so I can reply to this report because I am incredibly frustrated at having to wrangle the Snap away quite frequently. To confirm: I am having this exact issue. I've installed Firefox from the PPA and set its priority, and yet it's not being respected by Canonical's package, and t

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1999308] Re: Snap keeps uninstalling apt Firefox, and reinstalling snap Firefox

2023-05-24 Thread Paul Harrison
(I've unsubscribed, feel free to remove the bug report, you guys don't care about bug reports anyway. Maybe this explains why snap continues to be completely awful but you're foisting it on everyone anyway.) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1999308] Re: Snap keeps uninstalling apt Firefox, and reinstalling snap Firefox

2023-05-24 Thread Paul Harrison
> in the dpkg sense the Ubuntu archive package version is newer than the ppa one due to the epoch, apt is applying the standard logic of replacing a deb package by a newer revision when available, it's the way deb management is working. This is not what's happening. I've tried to explain this mult

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1999308] Re: Snap keeps uninstalling apt Firefox, and reinstalling snap Firefox

2023-05-24 Thread Sebastien Bacher
> What do you feel about the transitional package deinstalling Firefox when the snap package is disabled though? Is that the expected behavior of the transitional package? That's not a supported scenario. The Ubuntu team maintains firefox as a snap and the deb has been set up for things to work in

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1999308] Re: Snap keeps uninstalling apt Firefox, and reinstalling snap Firefox

2023-05-24 Thread Sebastien Bacher
> not to guarantee that the most recent version of the software is installed but to guarantee that a specific version of the software is pinned, without pinning it. Not cool but a bug. it's more complicated than that. The versioning has been picked to avoid having to re-upload the deb to keep up w

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1999308] Re: Snap keeps uninstalling apt Firefox, and reinstalling snap Firefox

2023-05-23 Thread herrsaalfeld
@Sebastien You are right, it is perfectly legal to use Debian epochs to override software versions. I haven't seen this much in Ubuntu repositories, so it feels inappropriate, particularly with the software version entirely removed. I guess the Mozilla PPA would have to roll with this versioning

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1999308] Re: Snap keeps uninstalling apt Firefox, and reinstalling snap Firefox

2023-05-23 Thread herrsaalfeld
I understand how deb package management is working, however, 1:1snap1-0ubuntu3 is not a firefox version, the firefox transitional deb package versioning schema is abusing an incompatible version number to override the firefox version regardless what it is. This is a hack to deliberately break what

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1999308] Re: Snap keeps uninstalling apt Firefox, and reinstalling snap Firefox

2023-05-23 Thread Sebastien Bacher
I'm not misunderstanding the situation $ dpkg --compare-versions 1:1snap1-0ubuntu3 gt 113.0.2+build1-0ubuntu0.23.04.1~mt1; echo $? 0 in the dpkg sense the Ubuntu archive package version is newer than the ppa one due to the epoch, apt is applying the standard logic of replacing a deb package by a

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1999308] Re: Snap keeps uninstalling apt Firefox, and reinstalling snap Firefox

2023-05-23 Thread herrsaalfeld
The transitional package uses a versioning schema that is incompatible with the Firefox release versioning schema, today: 1:1snap1-0ubuntu3 vs 113.0.2+build1-0ubuntu0.23.04.1~mt1 which makes apt believe that 1:1snap1-0ubuntu3 is a more recent build than 113.0.2+build1-0ubuntu0.23.04.1~mt1 which

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1999308] Re: Snap keeps uninstalling apt Firefox, and reinstalling snap Firefox

2023-05-23 Thread Paul Harrison
> the issue is that people install a firefox deb which is older than the one provided by Ubuntu Again, this is not true. If it were true, then "apt-get install firefox" after uninstalling the Ubuntu Snap loading version, would REINSTALL THE UBUNTU SNAP LOADING VERSION, not the version from Mozilla

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1999308] Re: Snap keeps uninstalling apt Firefox, and reinstalling snap Firefox

2023-05-23 Thread Sebastien Bacher
Again, nothing is doing weird things there, the issue is that people install a firefox deb which is older than the one provided by Ubuntu. You can't expect to install older debs and expect them to stick, that's not how apt works and nothing new and not specifics to snaps or firefox -- You receive

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1999308] Re: Snap keeps uninstalling apt Firefox, and reinstalling snap Firefox

2023-05-23 Thread Paul Harrison
> I've actually disabled most of the automatic update tools in one way or another To clarify, yes, this "fixed" it, but obviously "Go and find anything that does updates and cripple it" can't be the solution. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, wh

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1999308] Re: Snap keeps uninstalling apt Firefox, and reinstalling snap Firefox

2023-05-23 Thread Paul Harrison
snap info firefox reports this (currently it isn't installed and shouldn't be): name: firefox summary: Mozilla Firefox web browser publisher: Mozillaâś“ store-url: https://snapcraft.io/firefox contact: https://support.mozilla.org/kb/file-bug-report-or-feature-request-mozilla license: MPL

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1999308] Re: Snap keeps uninstalling apt Firefox, and reinstalling snap Firefox

2023-05-22 Thread Sebastien Bacher
There is technical reason why we need the transitional deb. You have options if you are set on not using the firefox version Ubuntu is officially supporting, apt pinning is one. Installing from the upstream tar instead of an official ppa is another one... -- You received this bug notification bec

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1999308] Re: Snap keeps uninstalling apt Firefox, and reinstalling snap Firefox

2023-05-22 Thread herrsaalfeld
If you intercept snap as described above by sudo snap disable firefox sudo snap remove firefox and add the Mozilla PPA for Firefox, then the Ubuntu deb package will remove the Mozilla Firefox version without being able to install the snap version because that was disabled. The result is no

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1999308] Re: Snap keeps uninstalling apt Firefox, and reinstalling snap Firefox

2023-05-22 Thread Sebastien Bacher
Ok, let's try to figure thing out. Please uninstall the snap, install the deb and next time the snap is installed back please share the output of 1. $ snap info firefox 2. the corresponding journal log ('-b 0' is the current system log, if you restarted since the snap refresh date from .1 then

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1999308] Re: Snap keeps uninstalling apt Firefox, and reinstalling snap Firefox

2023-05-22 Thread Paul Harrison
I mean, I literally cut and pasted what apt-get does in my bug report, how the hell did you conclude from that it's not "snapd or the system" and that it's a version number issue from that? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1999308] Re: Snap keeps uninstalling apt Firefox, and reinstalling snap Firefox

2023-05-22 Thread Paul Harrison
> Indeed, the process for fixing this I should stress that by this I mean "the process for temporarily fixing this". The system will still install the unwanted Snap version in the background at a later date. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, whic

Re: [Desktop-packages] [Bug 1999308] Re: Snap keeps uninstalling apt Firefox, and reinstalling snap Firefox

2023-05-22 Thread Paul Harrison
> if you remove the snap, it's not being installed back by snapd or the system This is clearly untrue. > - the issue there is that users do install a firefox deb version which is older than the 1:1snap version from the archive. Apt does what is the standard behavior next time you install availabl

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1999308] Re: Snap keeps uninstalling apt Firefox, and reinstalling snap Firefox

2023-05-22 Thread Sebastien Bacher
Details of why that's not a bug - Ubuntu decided to default to firefox as a snap and turned the deb to an 'utility' package providing some of the system gluing and installing the snap. The package uses a '1:1snap' version version '1:' is an Debian epoch (which means that version is going to be con

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1999308] Re: Snap keeps uninstalling apt Firefox, and reinstalling snap Firefox

2023-05-18 Thread Paul Harrison
Can you maybe further expand on how this is "does not appear to be a bug" because I cannot fathom any set of circumstances in which "Someone has intentionally removed a program, let's re-install it even though they've explicitly stated they don't want it" is NOT a bug. This is absurd. How is it n

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1999308] Re: Snap keeps uninstalling apt Firefox, and reinstalling snap Firefox

2023-05-16 Thread Sebastien Bacher
Thank you for taking the time to report this issue and helping to make Ubuntu better. Examining the information you have given us, this does not appear to be a bug in the package. We understand the difficulties you are facing, but it is better to raise problems you are having in the support tracker

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1999308] Re: Snap keeps uninstalling apt Firefox, and reinstalling snap Firefox

2023-05-16 Thread Martin Petersen
hi fellow ubuntu firefox users, it happened again and I see no harm in bumping this issue so here we are :) I already had a pref file for firefox without any real impact as far as I can see. I re-run the command "snap disable firefox" and changed from "Pin-Priority: -10" to "Pin-Priority: -1" as

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1999308] Re: Snap keeps uninstalling apt Firefox, and reinstalling snap Firefox

2023-05-02 Thread herrsaalfeld
I am having the same problem, but I prevented snap from updating firefox with ``` snap refresh --hold firefox ``` Since Ubuntu's transitional deb package does not understand my snap preferences, it now simply *uninstalls* the firefox deb package, and I have to manually update it with ``` sudo apt

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1999308] Re: Snap keeps uninstalling apt Firefox, and reinstalling snap Firefox

2023-04-17 Thread Martin Petersen
sneaky snap installation of firefox hit me again right now :) i just want to bump this bug report (pls fix, oh might canonical ! uWu) and report that mario's procedure (sudo apt remove firefox && sudo apt install firefox) works for me, also. cheers & i y'all a good week -- You received this bug

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1999308] Re: Snap keeps uninstalling apt Firefox, and reinstalling snap Firefox

2023-04-05 Thread mario
It happen to me to. I also removed snap as it doesn't support SSO i use in my daily work. My /etc/apt/preferences.d/mozillateamppa: Package: firefox* Pin: release o=LP-PPA-mozillateam Pin-Priority: 501: So after each removal, i simply do: sudo apt remove firefox && sudo apt install firefox, but i

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1999308] Re: Snap keeps uninstalling apt Firefox, and reinstalling snap Firefox

2023-03-23 Thread Martin Petersen
I'm having the same problem on my work provided Ubuntu system and this behavior alone would have let me switched OS if I'd be allowed to. I exaggerate a bit :) I would like to ask You to provide a possibility to disable or exclude firefox as snap for good. For now I check for the installation typ

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1999308] Re: Snap keeps uninstalling apt Firefox, and reinstalling snap Firefox

2023-01-13 Thread Gordon Lack
I'm having the same problem (on multiple systems). I've remove'd firefox as a snap nut the snap still gets installed at some later point (when a new one is available?) despite the fact that my apt preferences are set to use the mozillateam-ubuntu-ppa-kinetic PPA. -- You received this bug notific

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1999308] Re: Snap keeps uninstalling apt Firefox, and reinstalling snap Firefox

2023-01-13 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users. ** Changed in: firefox (Ubuntu) Status: New => Confirmed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to firefox in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1999

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1999308] Re: Snap keeps uninstalling apt Firefox, and reinstalling snap Firefox

2023-01-06 Thread Paul Harrison
Happened again today. Again, was anything pushed last night that might have triggered this? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to firefox in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1999308 Title: Snap keeps uninstalling apt F

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1999308] Re: Snap keeps uninstalling apt Firefox, and reinstalling snap Firefox

2022-12-18 Thread Paul Harrison
This happened again this morning. Before uninstalling the snap, I typed apt policy firefox which reported: firefox: Installed: 1:1snap1-0ubuntu2 Candidate: 108.0.1+build1-0ubuntu0.22.04.1~mt1 Version table: *** 1:1snap1-0ubuntu2 500 500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu jammy/main

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1999308] Re: Snap keeps uninstalling apt Firefox, and reinstalling snap Firefox

2022-12-16 Thread Paul White
Thanks for your clarification/confirmation that you have the transitional package available to install but it's currently not installed. So without the snap or transitional package installed to install the snap you see the snap being installed and/or updated. Strange. I'm leaving this for the Des

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1999308] Re: Snap keeps uninstalling apt Firefox, and reinstalling snap Firefox

2022-12-16 Thread Paul Harrison
Also, in case it helps: $ dpkg -l firefox* Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold | Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend |/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad) ||/ Name Version Architecture Descri

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1999308] Re: Snap keeps uninstalling apt Firefox, and reinstalling snap Firefox

2022-12-16 Thread Paul Harrison
The output of apt policy firefox on my system is: firefox: Installed: 108.0+build2-0ubuntu0.22.04.1~mt1 Candidate: 108.0+build2-0ubuntu0.22.04.1~mt1 Version table: 1:1snap1-0ubuntu2 500 500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu jammy/main amd64 Packages *** 108.0+build2-0ubuntu0.

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1999308] Re: Snap keeps uninstalling apt Firefox, and reinstalling snap Firefox

2022-12-16 Thread Paul White
My recent comment appears to have been lost so I'll repeat by saying that $ apt policy firefox firefox: Installed: 1:1snap1-0ubuntu2 Candidate: 1:1snap1-0ubuntu2 on my laptops show the existence of a transitional package that installs a snap version of Firefox. I understand that the '1:'

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1999308] Re: Snap keeps uninstalling apt Firefox, and reinstalling snap Firefox

2022-12-16 Thread Paul White
** Tags added: jammy -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to firefox in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1999308 Title: Snap keeps uninstalling apt Firefox, and reinstalling snap Firefox Status in firefox package in Ubu