[Desktop-packages] [Bug 880331] Re: Can no longer "shutdown" when laptop lid closes

2011-10-28 Thread Brendan Donegan
Not sure how valid this bug is, since it seems more likely that the 'Shutdown' option was removed very deliberately as a simplification of the gnome-control-center design, but it's definitely not a Nautilus issue so I have moved it from there to g-c-c ** Package changed: nautilus (Ubuntu) => gnome

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 880331] Re: Can no longer "shutdown" when laptop lid closes

2011-12-03 Thread David López
Hi Gilles. You can solve this bug (or missfunctionality) of gnome- control-center using dconf-editor instead of gconf-editor. Open dconf- editor and navigate to org -> gnome -> settings-daemon -> plugins -> power. Set 'lid-close-ac-action' and/or 'lid-close-battery action' to 'shutdown'. You can a

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 880331] Re: Can no longer "shutdown" when laptop lid closes

2011-12-03 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users. ** Changed in: gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) Status: New => Confirmed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to gnome-control-center in Ubuntu. https://bu

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 880331] Re: Can no longer "shutdown" when laptop lid closes

2011-12-04 Thread Gilles Tournier
Thank you David for your solution. It does work perfectly. But...I still think this is an issue and not a "simplification". Why would a lambda user be forced to go through dconf-editor (which they probably don't know anything about) in order to have the laptop shutdown when they close the lid be

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 880331] Re: Can no longer "shutdown" when laptop lid closes

2011-12-04 Thread David López
I agree. I miss a lot of things in this new gnome-control-center. For example, in ubuntu 11.04 (gnome2) we can easily configure laptop lid, power button, screensaver, user groups, automatic login in unity-2d... All those things have gone in ubuntu 11.10 (gnome3), now Gnome-Tweak and Ubuntu-Tweak ar

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 880331] Re: Can no longer "shutdown" when laptop lid closes

2011-12-05 Thread Sebastien Bacher
GNOME dropped the ui to configure the lid close behaviour, Ubuntu added back it but listing only suspend, hibernate and nothing ... not sure how useful the shutdown option is in there, you are the first one to request it since Oneiric, it seems it would clutter the ui for something 0.1% of users ne

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 880331] Re: Can no longer "shutdown" when laptop lid closes

2011-12-05 Thread Sebastien Bacher
Gilles, we don't design ui to workaround bugs, if suspend doesn't work on your laptop it's a kernel bug and should be fixed rather than workarounded by adding an option in the ui which would not be useful if you laptop worked correctly -- You received this bug notification because you are a membe

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 880331] Re: Can no longer "shutdown" when laptop lid closes

2011-12-05 Thread Gilles Tournier
I agree. But my experience tells me that a kernel crash upon sleep or hibernate is a very difficult bug to troubleshoot. Most of the time, these bugs arise only on a specific hardware or BIOS or ACPI design or other unknown things. In my case, I really like to have to only close the lid when I'm

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 880331] Re: Can no longer "shutdown" when laptop lid closes

2011-12-05 Thread Sebastien Bacher
> the philosophy of open source developpment is all about freedom of choice when it comes to UI and settings - so why restrict options users had previously (and were happy to use) ? it's rather to find a good balance between the number of options,choices and the simplicity of use, I've no strong o

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 880331] Re: Can no longer "shutdown" when laptop lid closes

2011-12-05 Thread David López
I understand you, Sebastien. But in my opinion the key is the word 'previously'. There are lots of things that were easily configurable in 11.04 and now those options are lost. I've given five examples in gnome- control-center: configure laptop lid, power button, screensaver, user groups, automatic

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 880331] Re: Can no longer "shutdown" when laptop lid closes

2011-12-06 Thread Sebastien Bacher
** Changed in: gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed => Triaged -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to gnome-control-center in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/880331 Title: Can no longer "shutdown" whe

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 880331] Re: Can no longer "shutdown" when laptop lid closes

2011-12-06 Thread Sebastien Bacher
Those are valid points, we dislike some of things GNOME3 did (like dropping support for custom screensaver graphics), some will be added back, GNOME3 and Unity are still quite new, I understand it can be frustrating meanwhile, sorry about that. Some side notes on the example you took - you can cha

[Desktop-packages] [Bug 880331] Re: Can no longer "shutdown" when laptop lid closes

2011-12-06 Thread David López
Thanks for the answer, Sebastien. You don't have to sorry, it's a pleassure to speak with you. What I'm trying to tell is that ubuntu and gnome developers don't know who or where those 1% people can be. Maybe I'm the 1% of a lot of removed options, I gave you those examples for a reason. - There's