Re: [DISCUSS] Any interest in separate client/server tarballs

2018-01-05 Thread Josh Elser
I think it would depend how much other "stuff" has to come in to support the *Clusters. I assumed it would be a bit, but, if it's not, I have no objections to a single jar. On 1/5/18 4:38 PM, Michael Wall wrote: Yeah, I was thinking more like your second paragraph. Thinking I would use the pr

Re: [DISCUSS] Any interest in separate client/server tarballs

2018-01-05 Thread Michael Wall
Yeah, I was thinking more like your second paragraph. Thinking I would use the proposed client jar to develop against the MiniAccumuloCluster (typically the StandaloneMiniAccumuloCluster for me) and then deploy that code to run against a real cluster. Would like to flesh that usecase out a little

Re: [DISCUSS] Any interest in separate client/server tarballs

2018-01-05 Thread Josh Elser
MAC, in its common state, is probably not something we'd want to include in this proposed tarball. The reasoning being that MAC (and related classes) aren't something that people would need on your "Hadoop Cluster" to talk to Accumulo. It's something that can just be obtained via Maven. Howev

Re: [DISCUSS] Any interest in separate client/server tarballs

2018-01-05 Thread Michael Wall
I like the idea of a client jar that has less dependencies. Josh, where are thinking the MiniAccumuloCluster fits in here? On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 3:57 PM Christopher wrote: > On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 10:30 AM Keith Turner wrote: > > > On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 7:43 PM, Christopher wrote: > > > tl;

Re: Draft Board Report for Jan 2018

2018-01-05 Thread Michael Wall
Updated Draft -- ## Description: - The Apache Accumulo sorted, distributed key/value store is a robust, scalable, high performance data storage system that features cell-based access control and customizable server-side processing. It is based on Google's BigTable design and is bui

Re: Draft Board Report for Jan 2018

2018-01-05 Thread Michael Wall
All good ideas. Mike, the Summit was held 16 Oct. I submitted the last report on 11 Oct and the board meet on 18 Oct. The summit was mentioned, but I can mention it again with a link. I'll add it. Mike, I'll mention the tour add a link to the blog article. Billie, I'll mention the docker repo

Re: [DISCUSS] Any interest in separate client/server tarballs

2018-01-05 Thread Christopher
On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 10:30 AM Keith Turner wrote: > On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 7:43 PM, Christopher wrote: > > tl;dr : I would prefer not to add another tarball as part of our > "official" > > I am not opposed to replacing the current single tarball with client > and server tarballs. What I find

Re: [DISCUSS] Any interest in separate client/server tarballs

2018-01-05 Thread Christopher
On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 10:01 AM Josh Elser wrote: > I'd be worried about advertising something that we're not treating as > official as it would languish (unless we create tests that can validate > the result for us). > > My concern is "packagability". That's what I'm concerned about languishing.

Re: [DISCUSS] Any interest in separate client/server tarballs

2018-01-05 Thread Josh Elser
One thing worth mentioning is that I will be doing this against $dayjob's 1.7 based branch to start. If the consensus is to only do this for a 2.0 Accumulo release, perhaps I can use my work to seed that effort? I'm thinking something like a document that lists what would be in such a client-t

Re: Draft Board Report for Jan 2018

2018-01-05 Thread Billie Rinaldi
How about the Accumulo docker image? On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 10:23 AM, Mike Walch wrote: > Could mention an Accumulo tour was created for the website > https://accumulo.apache.org/tour/ > > On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 8:38 PM, Michael Wall wrote: > > > The Apache Accumulo PMC decided to draft its qua

Re: Draft Board Report for Jan 2018

2018-01-05 Thread Mike Walch
Could mention an Accumulo tour was created for the website https://accumulo.apache.org/tour/ On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 8:38 PM, Michael Wall wrote: > The Apache Accumulo PMC decided to draft its quarterly board > reports on the dev list. Here is a draft of our report which is due > by Wednesday, Ja

Re: Draft Board Report for Jan 2018

2018-01-05 Thread Mike Miller
If that wasn't in the last report, you could mention the Accumulo Summit. I think the fact a company sponsored the summit, people presented and attended shows a healthy project. Other than that looks good. On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 8:38 PM, Michael Wall wrote: > The Apache Accumulo PMC decided to d

Re: [DISCUSS] Any interest in separate client/server tarballs

2018-01-05 Thread Keith Turner
On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 11:24 AM, Mike Walch wrote: > I like the idea of client tarball. I think it will make things easier for > users. However, I agree with Keith that we are going to need to split the > accumulo command into accumulo-client & accumulo-server. I am interested > in helping out w

Re: [DISCUSS] Any interest in separate client/server tarballs

2018-01-05 Thread Mike Walch
I like the idea of client tarball. I think it will make things easier for users. However, I agree with Keith that we are going to need to split the accumulo command into accumulo-client & accumulo-server. I am interested in helping out with this as I have done a lot of work on the scripts in 2.0.

Re: [DISCUSS] Any interest in separate client/server tarballs

2018-01-05 Thread Keith Turner
On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 7:43 PM, Christopher wrote: > tl;dr : I would prefer not to add another tarball as part of our "official" I am not opposed to replacing the current single tarball with client and server tarballs. What I find appealing about this is if the client tarball has less deps. Ho

Re: [DISCUSS] Any interest in separate client/server tarballs

2018-01-05 Thread Josh Elser
I'd be worried about advertising something that we're not treating as official as it would languish (unless we create tests that can validate the result for us). Thanks for the input. On 1/4/18 7:43 PM, Christopher wrote: tl;dr : I would prefer not to add another tarball as part of our "offic

Re: [DISCUSS] Any interest in separate client/server tarballs

2018-01-05 Thread Josh Elser
On 1/5/18 9:55 AM, Keith Turner wrote: Obviously, there are many ways to go about this. If there is buy-in from other folks, adding some new assembly descriptors and making it a part of the Maven build (perhaps, optionally generated) would be the easiest in terms of maintenance. However, I don't

Re: [DISCUSS] Any interest in separate client/server tarballs

2018-01-05 Thread Keith Turner
On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 7:16 PM, Josh Elser wrote: > Hi, > > $dayjob presented me with a request to break up the current tarball into > two: one suitable for "users" and another for the Accumulo services. The > ultimate goal is to make upgrade scenarios a bit easier by having client and > server ce