Re: FYI: Blog "Complex build systems need a real language" found

Thomas Schapitz wrote: Oh mirror, please tell me, who in the world has the most complicated build script? Could be the apache axis test harness. But, speaking of something else... misstakes like this might be partly due to a lack of 'ANT Best Practices'. Anybody thinking about including something

Re: FYI: Blog "Complex build systems need a real language" found

On Jan 22, 2004, at 4:37 PM, Thomas Schapitz wrote: But, speaking of something else... misstakes like this might be partly due to a lack of 'ANT Best Practices'. Anybody thinking about including something about that into the documentation? Sort of like this?

Re: FYI: Blog "Complex build systems need a real language" found

Oh mirror, please tell me, who in the world has the most complicated build script? In the comments regarding the article I found one crucial hint that I want to emphasize: Big Projects usually have two sorts of dependencies, that need build managing: A vertical one, according to the software arch

Re: A path for Ant 2? (was Re: FYI: Blog "Complex build systems need a real language" found)

Hi, your are raising the question : what is ant's mission ? Our web site proclaims "ant is a make tool without make's wrinkles". Really ant's core is an engine which can instantiate java objects out of XML project files, and run tasks grouped in targets optionally linked by dependencies. One can

A path for Ant 2? (was Re: FYI: Blog "Complex build systems need a real language" found)

This thread has somewhat stirred up my brain a bit and a thought that floated to the top goes like this: We do want to be able to write simple declaritive build scripts for builds. I think this is a major virture of Ant. But clearly when one ventures into the "system of builds" and such there a

Re: FYI: Blog "Complex build systems need a real language" found

Stefan Bodewig wrote: On Wed, 21 Jan 2004, Jan Materne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: http://www.theserverside.com/news/thread.jsp?thread_id=23426 I don't read TSS and haven't followed the article, but Jon is the build guy at ThoughtWorks, Martin Fowler's company. Martin has already blogged[1] about

Re: FYI: Blog "Complex build systems need a real language" found

On Wed, 21 Jan 2004, Jan Materne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.theserverside.com/news/thread.jsp?thread_id=23426 I don't read TSS and haven't followed the article, but Jon is the build guy at ThoughtWorks, Martin Fowler's company. Martin has already blogged[1] about the same issue and

RE: FYI: Blog "Complex build systems need a real language" found

> From: Peter Reilly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > According to the last entry, they are currently > using a 45,000 line ant script =-O > which one of the team is reducing to ~700 lines by > using a custom dependency task. I didn't read all the thread completely, but I heartedly agree with Peter

Re: FYI: Blog "Complex build systems need a real language" found

According to the last entry, they are currently using a 45,000 line ant script =-O which one of the team is reducing to ~700 lines by using a custom dependency task. Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FYI. Jan http://www.theserverside.com/news/thread.jsp?thread_id=23426 Opinion: Complex build systems

FYI: Blog "Complex build systems need a real language" found

FYI. Jan http://www.theserverside.com/news/thread.jsp?thread_id=23426 Opinion: Complex build systems need a real language Posted By: Dion Almaer on January 20, 2004 @ 11:13 AM Jon Tirsen talks about a Java project that he was working on that had a very complicated build system. He started off