Re: [ANTidote] possibly needs to be renamed!

2003-10-17 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Adam R. B. Jack wrote: You may be right, because antidote is a commonly used word, but I am with Stefan here and I feel playing save can't be bad :-). What are the chances that the new name isn't a clash with somebody else somewhere? How far/wide do you search? Do you change again in a while when

RE: [ANTidote] possibly needs to be renamed!

2003-10-17 Thread Jan . Materne
Surely Apache has run into this before, no? Yup. For example Microsoft has Avalon, and Sony has Cocoon. But our projects are Apache Avalon and Apache Cocoon. So it's not *strictly* necessary to change the name, but why risk when you don't have a brand to protect anyhow. Is it

Re: [ANTidote] possibly needs to be renamed!

2003-10-17 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 17:21:45 +0200 (MEST) Christoph Wilhelms [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyways: If we have to rename it, I propose to use a simple and gereic name like Ant GUI. ANTiCUI :-) -- Tetsuya. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -

RE: [ANTidote] possibly needs to be renamed!

2003-10-17 Thread Jan . Materne
: [ANTidote] possibly needs to be renamed! On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 17:21:45 +0200 (MEST) Christoph Wilhelms [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyways: If we have to rename it, I propose to use a simple and gereic name like Ant GUI. ANTiCUI :-) -- Tetsuya. ([EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: [ANTidote] possibly needs to be renamed!

2003-10-17 Thread Gardiner, Sam
: 17 October 2003 09:06 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ANTidote] possibly needs to be renamed! Maybe another animal AFE - Ant Front End (german Affe - ape) :-) or should we consult the movie Forrest Gumb once again ? Jan -Original Message- From: Tetsuya Kitahata [mailto

Re: [ANTidote] possibly needs to be renamed!

2003-10-17 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Surely Apache has run into this before, no? Yup. For example Microsoft has Avalon, and Sony has Cocoon. But our projects are Apache Avalon and Apache Cocoon. So it's not *strictly* necessary to change the name, but why risk when you don't have a brand to protect

RE: [ANTidote] possibly needs to be renamed!

2003-10-17 Thread Jan . Materne
IANAL, but AFAIK no. -- Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] I know AFAIK (as far as i know), but what is IANAL? Jan

Re: [ANTidote] possibly needs to be renamed!

2003-10-17 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IANAL, but AFAIK no. -- Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] I know AFAIK (as far as i know), but what is IANAL? I Am Not A Layer :-) -- Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] - verba volant, scripta manent - (discussions

Re: [ANTidote] possibly needs to be renamed!

2003-10-17 Thread alec
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IANAL, but AFAIK no. Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] I know AFAIK (as far as i know), but what is IANAL? Jan From the Jargon Dictionary: *IANAL* /[Usenet]/ Abbreviation, I Am Not A Lawyer. Usually precedes legal advice. Alec

Re: [ANTidote] possibly needs to be renamed!

2003-10-17 Thread Steve Loughran
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Surely Apache has run into this before, no? Yup. For example Microsoft has Avalon, and Sony has Cocoon. But our projects are Apache Avalon and Apache Cocoon. So it's not *strictly* necessary to change the name, but why risk when you don't have

Re: [ANTidote] possibly needs to be renamed!

2003-10-16 Thread Gus Heck
I don't know much about trademark law, but doesn't it matter if their trademark precedes our usage? I'm pretty sure I can't declare Red to be my trademark and then tell certain linux distributors that they must cease associating their product with mine... can I? -Gus Christoph Wilhelms wrote:

Re: [ANTidote] possibly needs to be renamed!

2003-10-16 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Stefan Bodewig wrote: On Thu, 16 Oct 2003, Christoph Wilhelms [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just want to tell you, that the President of the company Druide http://www.druide.com Eric Brunelle infomed me, that his company own the (not shure if just French or international) trademarks for the name

RE: [ANTidote] possibly needs to be renamed!

2003-10-16 Thread Christoph Wilhelms
I don't know much about trademark law, but doesn't it matter if their trademark precedes our usage? I'm pretty sure I can't declare Red to be my trademark and then tell certain linux distributors that they must cease associating their product with mine... can I? You may be right,

Re: [ANTidote] possibly needs to be renamed!

2003-10-16 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
You may be right, because antidote is a commonly used word, but I am with Stefan here and I feel playing save can't be bad :-). What are the chances that the new name isn't a clash with somebody else somewhere? How far/wide do you search? Do you change again in a while when somebody surfaces?

Re: [ANTidote] possibly needs to be renamed!

2003-10-16 Thread Steve Loughran
Adam R. B. Jack wrote: You may be right, because antidote is a commonly used word, but I am with Stefan here and I feel playing save can't be bad :-). What are the chances that the new name isn't a clash with somebody else somewhere? How far/wide do you search? Do you change again in a while when

Re: [ANTidote] possibly needs to be renamed!

2003-10-16 Thread Gus Heck
Hmm I have this suspicion that we are just an ancillary target, these people probably really want to sue the virus software people who likely have some money to sue for. The problem is that if they don't pursue everyone, they probably can't go after the big one and have the courts beleive

RE: [ANTidote] possibly needs to be renamed!

2003-10-16 Thread Christoph Wilhelms
Wow Steve! Impressive research :-)! Well done! Nearly nothing to add :-)! Perhaps we just make sure that we call it Apache ANTidote on all the web page docs tonight, send him a letter saying we have made sure that we use the full name. If he insists then raise the stakes by asking

Re: [ANTidote] possibly needs to be renamed!

2003-10-16 Thread Jack J. Woehr
Christoph Wilhelms wrote: Additionally: Renaming sounds like a not too bad idea, because I found (using Google) some virus detection programs called Antidote... Thoughts!?! I never liked the name, it sounds like Ant is a disease that you need Antidote for :-) Isn't there a special Latin

Re: [ANTidote] possibly needs to be renamed!

2003-10-16 Thread Matt Benson
Cool idea; unfortunately the word seems to be here: http://www.webster.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionaryva=ommatidium Not too friendly. Another cool thing about this idea is that an arthropod eye is multifaceted, and the concept of a facet is closely related to the concept of a facade,

Re: [ANTidote] possibly needs to be renamed!

2003-10-16 Thread Jack J. Woehr
Matt Benson wrote: Cool idea; unfortunately the word seems to be here: http://www.webster.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionaryva=ommatidium Not too friendly. You're right, ommatidium sounds like something Winnie the Pooh would hum to himself. How about Formiga? It's the Portuges word

Re: [ANTidote] possibly needs to be renamed!

2003-10-16 Thread Matt Benson
Not bad, maybe... -Matt --- Jack J. Woehr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matt Benson wrote: Cool idea; unfortunately the word seems to be here: http://www.webster.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionaryva=ommatidium Not too friendly. You're right, ommatidium sounds like something