Re: Apex Sandbox in Apex Dev Setup documentation

2017-04-08 Thread Thomas Weise
Looks like we have agreement to remove the link and refer to the download page (as stated in this thread before, the DataTorrent download link is already there). I think there is no need to portray the DataTorrent sandbox as a charitable effort in this discussion. You will be greeted with a "give

Re: Apex Sandbox in Apex Dev Setup documentation

2017-04-07 Thread Sasha Parfenov
+1 on listing various sandboxes on download page. As Vlad pointed out, there are examples in Hadoop and other Apache projects with vendor sponsored/provided sandboxes: Kudu - http://kudu.apache.org/docs/quickstart.html Drill - https://drill.apache.org/docs/installing-the-apache-drill-sandbox/ Eag

Re: Apex Sandbox in Apex Dev Setup documentation

2017-04-07 Thread Vlad Rozov
+1 to have a link from doc to downloads page. It is also necessary to limit downloads page to links to various binary distributions and move the detailed steps from the download page to the site where downloads point to. Thank you, Vlad On 4/7/17 16:54, Amol Kekre wrote: We should just poin

Re: Apex Sandbox in Apex Dev Setup documentation

2017-04-07 Thread Amol Kekre
We should just point it to apex download page in the docs -> http://apex.apache.org/downloads.html; I will add my comments to the jira Thks Amol E:a...@datatorrent.com | M: 510-449-2606 | Twitter: @*amolhkekre* www.datatorrent.com On Fri, Apr 7, 2017 at 1:33 PM, Dean Lockgaard wrote: > Than

Re: Apex Sandbox in Apex Dev Setup documentation

2017-04-07 Thread Pramod Immaneni
Wouldn't it then be better then if we make this more flexible and dynamic. The documentation can contain some basic description of a sandbox is for and point to the apex download page instead. In the download page we can list the sandboxes. For the vendor specific sandbox today in question, there i

Re: Apex Sandbox in Apex Dev Setup documentation

2017-04-07 Thread Dean Lockgaard
Thanks for the input, Thomas and Pramod. I've created the following two tickets to track this: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/APEXCORE-692 https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/APEXCORE-693 Regards, Dean On Fri, Apr 7, 2017 at 9:22 AM, Pramod Immaneni wrote: > Agreed, didn't realize

Re: Apex Sandbox in Apex Dev Setup documentation

2017-04-07 Thread Vlad Rozov
I would argue that a link to a vendor sandbox or a download that makes it easier to jump start with Apex and promotes adoption is OK. For example Hadoop provides links to HDP and CDH sandboxes: https://wiki.apache.org/hadoop/QuickStart. Additionally, bigtop sandbox does not seem to support Virt

Re: Apex Sandbox in Apex Dev Setup documentation

2017-04-07 Thread Pramod Immaneni
Agreed, didn't realize this was in the documentation page. On Fri, Apr 7, 2017 at 9:09 AM, Thomas Weise wrote: > I disagree. Apex documentation is not the place to promote vendor > offerings. > > I suggested to refer to the download page, which already contains the > DataTorrent link. > > Thomas

Re: Apex Sandbox in Apex Dev Setup documentation

2017-04-07 Thread Thomas Weise
I disagree. Apex documentation is not the place to promote vendor offerings. I suggested to refer to the download page, which already contains the DataTorrent link. Thomas On Fri, Apr 7, 2017 at 8:52 AM, Pramod Immaneni wrote: > Hi Dean, > > There aren't many good options out there for users

Re: Apex Sandbox in Apex Dev Setup documentation

2017-04-07 Thread Pramod Immaneni
Hi Dean, There aren't many good options out there for users to get an environment up with apex apps running easily or quickly. We all know how difficult it would be for someone new to get an application up and running even if they had a hadoop sandbox with apex. Also, for many when they download a

Re: Apex Sandbox in Apex Dev Setup documentation

2017-04-06 Thread Thomas Weise
+1 this should be tracked in a JIRA. There are also some improvements that can be done to the instructions on the docker hub (separate activity). I would also suggest to list the Apex binary build on the downloads page for users that have an existing cluster: https://github.com/atrato/apex-cli-p

Apex Sandbox in Apex Dev Setup documentation

2017-04-06 Thread Dean Lockgaard
All, In the Sandbox section of the Apache Apex Development Environment Setup documentation ( https://apex.apache.org/docs/apex/apex_development_setup/#sandbox), instructions are provided for a vendor-specific Sandbox. I would like to propose that these instructions be changed to reference the Apa