RE: Patch to fix dirs when builddir != srcdir

2000-12-16 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
> From: Mo DeJong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2000 5:06 PM > > How do win32 users run the ./configure script without downloading > Cygwin? Also, have you tried recent versions of Cygwin? The old > install process really sucked, but new versions have a nice > GUI install

RE: make_export.awk

2000-12-16 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2000 1:01 PM > > > > When I originally wrote the buildexports stuff, we didn't require Perl to > > > build Apache, because that file could be generated once and just bundled > > > with Apache. With the move to crea

RE: [wrowe@rowe-clan.net: RE: *.exports in distro bundle, use of , Perl on Windows (was: Re: make_export.awk)]

2000-12-16 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
> -Original Message- > From: Mo DeJong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2000 3:56 PM > To: dev@apr.apache.org > Subject: Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: RE: *.exports in distro bundle, use > of , Perl on Windows (was: Re: make_export.awk)] > > > > > > I'll change, no pro

win32 users (was: Re: Patch to fix dirs when builddir != srcdir)

2000-12-16 Thread Greg Stein
On Sat, Dec 16, 2000 at 03:06:24PM -0800, Mo DeJong wrote: >... > How do win32 users run the ./configure script without downloading > Cygwin? Also, have you tried recent versions of Cygwin? The old > install process really sucked, but new versions have a nice > GUI installer that downloads all the

Re: Patch to fix dirs when builddir != srcdir

2000-12-16 Thread Mo DeJong
On Sat, 16 Dec 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > I would like to know why perl is used to determine how easy it > > > would be to replace with something that has a better shot at > > > being installed on every box that someone might want to build > > > apr on. > > > > Feel free to provid

Re: Patch to fix dirs when builddir != srcdir

2000-12-16 Thread Mo DeJong
Here is another patch that fixes the RUN_SUBDIR_CONFIG_NOW macro when it is run from the build directory and the macro gets included into a configure.in from another project. The problem was the the system did not know where the helpers dir was. Index: aclocal.m4 ==

Re: [wrowe@rowe-clan.net: RE: *.exports in distro bundle, use of , Perl on Windows (was: Re: make_export.awk)]

2000-12-16 Thread Mo DeJong
On Sat, 16 Dec 2000, Greg Stein wrote: > - Forwarded message from "William A. Rowe, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - > > From: "William A. Rowe, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: *.exports in distro bundle, use of Perl on Windows (was: Re: > make_export.awk) > To: "'Greg Stein'" <[EMAIL

RE: make_export.awk

2000-12-16 Thread Sascha Schumann
> Actually this brings up a huge issue. I'm currently battling rewrites in > the Windows .msi installer, trying to make a 'native' extension for this > job, or we will have to bundle 1. our own rewriter, or 2. someone else's > rewriter. If we bundle gnu awk, we just fell into a deep pit we aren't

[wrowe@rowe-clan.net: RE: *.exports in distro bundle, use of Perl on Windows (was: Re: make_export.awk)]

2000-12-16 Thread Greg Stein
- Forwarded message from "William A. Rowe, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - From: "William A. Rowe, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: *.exports in distro bundle, use of Perl on Windows (was: Re: make_export.awk) To: "'Greg Stein'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 15:20:28 -0600 >

RE: make_export.awk

2000-12-16 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2000 12:09 PM > > On Sat, 16 Dec 2000, Sascha Schumann wrote: > > > I had too much free time today, so I created make_export.awk. > > During that I noticed that I either lack some awk knowledge > > or t

Re: make_export.awk

2000-12-16 Thread Sascha Schumann
> We should document that URL for fetching a Windows-compatible AWK. Are there > binary distributions? I'd also be fine redistributing from apache.org so > that people don't have to hunt this stuff down at other sites. Three candidates (create exactly the same output): gawk 3.0.6 for Win3

Re: *.exports in distro bundle

2000-12-16 Thread Greg Stein
On Sat, Dec 16, 2000 at 12:36:55PM -0800, Greg Stein wrote: > On Sat, Dec 16, 2000 at 10:28:07AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >... > > When I originally wrote the buildexports stuff, we didn't require Perl to > > build Apache, because that file could be generated once and just bundled > > with A

Re: make_export.awk

2000-12-16 Thread Greg Stein
On Sat, Dec 16, 2000 at 09:41:34PM +0100, Sascha Schumann wrote: > > Hmm. Have you noticed apr_MD5Encode and apr_get_home_directory are in there > > twice? Is it possible that you're getting doubles? Maybe you have a backup > > copy of apr_uuid.h and apr_md5.h in your include directory, and it's pi

Re: make_export.awk

2000-12-16 Thread Greg Stein
On Sat, Dec 16, 2000 at 09:27:13PM +0100, Sascha Schumann wrote: > > What makes you think the awk solution is any more portable than the Perl > > solution? I would much rather determine what is happening than to just > > give up on the Perl solution. Please take a look at the definition of > > th

Re: make_export.awk

2000-12-16 Thread Sascha Schumann
> Hmm. Have you noticed apr_MD5Encode and apr_get_home_directory are in there > twice? Is it possible that you're getting doubles? Maybe you have a backup > copy of apr_uuid.h and apr_md5.h in your include directory, and it's picking > them up? line was not cleared correctly. Whoops. I used

*.exports in distro bundle, use of Perl on Windows (was: Re: make_export.awk)

2000-12-16 Thread Greg Stein
On Sat, Dec 16, 2000 at 10:28:07AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > I dislike this idea. I realize (now) that awk is available on Windows, > > > but Perl is already required to build Apache on Windows, and all of a > > > sudden we are going to add the requirement of awk too. Why? We already

Re: make_export.awk

2000-12-16 Thread Sascha Schumann
> What makes you think the awk solution is any more portable than the Perl > solution? I would much rather determine what is happening than to just > give up on the Perl solution. Please take a look at the definition of > those functions and make sure they actually match the regex. You could > t

Re: make_export.awk

2000-12-16 Thread Greg Stein
On Sat, Dec 16, 2000 at 10:09:24AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Sat, 16 Dec 2000, Sascha Schumann wrote: > > I had too much free time today, so I created make_export.awk. > > During that I noticed that I either lack some awk knowledge > > or that the awk's expression mechanism l

Re: make_export.awk

2000-12-16 Thread rbb
> > I would love to know what it is. The regex isn't that complex, and > > regex's in Perl shouldn't have really changed between 5.005_02 and > > 5.005_03. Hm > > I can repeat the same effect on another machine with Red Hat > 5.1 (also 5.005_02). > > Are we going to raise th

Re: make_export.awk

2000-12-16 Thread Sascha Schumann
> I would love to know what it is. The regex isn't that complex, and > regex's in Perl shouldn't have really changed between 5.005_02 and > 5.005_03. Hm I can repeat the same effect on another machine with Red Hat 5.1 (also 5.005_02). Are we going to raise the entry barrier f

Re: make_export.awk

2000-12-16 Thread rbb
> > When I originally wrote the buildexports stuff, we didn't require Perl to > > build Apache, because that file could be generated once and just bundled > > with Apache. With the move to create those files during the build steps, > > we now require Perl just to build. I think the best solution

Re: make_export.awk

2000-12-16 Thread Sascha Schumann
> When I originally wrote the buildexports stuff, we didn't require Perl to > build Apache, because that file could be generated once and just bundled > with Apache. With the move to create those files during the build steps, > we now require Perl just to build. I think the best solution is to mo

Re: make_export.awk

2000-12-16 Thread rbb
> > I dislike this idea. I realize (now) that awk is available on Windows, > > but Perl is already required to build Apache on Windows, and all of a > > sudden we are going to add the requirement of awk too. Why? We already > > require Perl on every platform when building Apache, but we do not

Re: make_export.awk

2000-12-16 Thread Sascha Schumann
> I dislike this idea. I realize (now) that awk is available on Windows, > but Perl is already required to build Apache on Windows, and all of a > sudden we are going to add the requirement of awk too. Why? We already > require Perl on every platform when building Apache, but we do not > current

Re: make_export.awk

2000-12-16 Thread rbb
On Sat, 16 Dec 2000, Sascha Schumann wrote: > I had too much free time today, so I created make_export.awk. > During that I noticed that I either lack some awk knowledge > or that the awk's expression mechanism lacks a useful feature > (backreferencing). I've worked around that by

make_export.awk

2000-12-16 Thread Sascha Schumann
I had too much free time today, so I created make_export.awk. During that I noticed that I either lack some awk knowledge or that the awk's expression mechanism lacks a useful feature (backreferencing). I've worked around that by using two sub's in the respective block. The

Re: Patch to fix dirs when builddir != srcdir

2000-12-16 Thread Sascha Schumann
> I used Perl because I wanted to learn Perl better. This is also not a > simple question to answer, and using awk will not solve the problem > here. Last I checked, Win32 does not have awk, and getting it requires > that you actually download cygwin. That is not true. You can get the latest

Re: Patch to fix dirs when builddir != srcdir

2000-12-16 Thread Sascha Schumann
> Sascha is being obtuse, when he should have simply said what he meant. That > would have kept the discussion much cleaner (shame on you, Sascha). If I say "X does not work in context Y", it does not translate to "I don't like X". What is so unclear in that sentence? Were peo

I'm back.

2000-12-16 Thread rbb
Most of you have probably noticed that I have been unusually quiet recently. I was stuck in Nebraska and without e-mail since Wednesday. I fully expected to have e-mail that whole time, but my modem doesn't like me. :-( Anyway, I'm back now, and will be busy getting stuff done again. Ryan _

Re: Patch to fix dirs when builddir != srcdir

2000-12-16 Thread rbb
> > I would like to know why perl is used to determine how easy it > > would be to replace with something that has a better shot at > > being installed on every box that someone might want to build > > apr on. > > Feel free to provide an awk script which implements the > equivalent functi

Re: cvs commit: apr STATUS

2000-12-16 Thread rbb
> > > Modified:.STATUS > > > +* apr_create_lock() changes: > > ... > > > + - The fname param is allowed to be NULL on the Unix platform. > > > > feature, not bug... Do you mean that the semantics associated with > > this ("make up a file for me if you need to, APR") ar

Re: cvs commit: apr STATUS

2000-12-16 Thread rbb
> +* apr_create_lock() changes: > + - It ignores the "type" parameter, so toss it. > + - The fname param is allowed to be NULL on the Unix platform. > +Change it to always use the passed value, and check callers. These are in there by design. The type parameter didn

Re: src/ directory (was: Re: Showstoppers: Alpha 9)

2000-12-16 Thread rbb
> > I think it is goofy to place a src directory in a source tree -- everything > > in the distribution is source. If there are too many subdirectories, then > > either abstract them into relevant categories or split them into different > > library modules. > > It isn't "a source tree". There is

Re: Patch to fix dirs when builddir != srcdir

2000-12-16 Thread Greg Stein
On Fri, Dec 15, 2000 at 05:59:14PM -0800, Mo DeJong wrote: > On Sat, 16 Dec 2000, Sascha Schumann wrote: >... > > In my last email, I tried to communicate to you that you are > > putting words into my mouth. Nobody likes that, especially if > > you get it wrong. You have now succeeded i

Re: Patch to fix dirs when builddir != srcdir

2000-12-16 Thread Mo DeJong
On Sat, 16 Dec 2000, Sascha Schumann wrote: > > I would like to know why perl is used to determine how easy it > > would be to replace with something that has a better shot at > > being installed on every box that someone might want to build > > apr on. > > Feel free to provide an awk script

Re: Patch to fix dirs when builddir != srcdir

2000-12-16 Thread Sascha Schumann
> I would like to know why perl is used to determine how easy it > would be to replace with something that has a better shot at > being installed on every box that someone might want to build > apr on. Feel free to provide an awk script which implements the equivalent functionality. > Whe

Re: Patch to fix dirs when builddir != srcdir

2000-12-16 Thread Mo DeJong
On Sat, 16 Dec 2000, Sascha Schumann wrote: > > Ok, so you don't like automake and gnu make. > > May I gently request that you read this article: > > http://www.perl.com/pub/2000/12/advocacy.html?wwwrrr_20001213.txt I have read that article before, and no I am not on an anti-perl ki