Re: Aries Spec Jars

2018-01-03 Thread Timothy Ward
I’m still not sure what the eventual resolution of this discussion will be as it may be that Aries implementation needs simply cannot be met by using the Service Mix spec bundles, however I do agree that we should be fixing up Service Mix API bundles as far as we can. To that end I have created

Re: Aries Spec Jars

2017-12-22 Thread Daniel Kulp
> On Dec 22, 2017, at 10:30 AM, Raymond Auge wrote: > >> Do those spec bundles also exist over in SMX or Geronimo? Is there a >> “significant” number of major Apache projects that are currently using >> either the ones in Aries or the ones in ServiceMix/Geronimo? If so, then >> yea, we shou

Re: Aries Spec Jars

2017-12-22 Thread Raymond Auge
On Fri, Dec 22, 2017 at 8:12 AM, Daniel Kulp wrote: > > > > On Dec 22, 2017, at 4:14 AM, Timothy Ward > wrote: > > > > I’m completely against having yet another bundle here when the other > bundles are the ones that will be be used by all the other projects. > > > > Well we already do have worki

Re: Aries Spec Jars

2017-12-22 Thread Daniel Kulp
> On Dec 22, 2017, at 4:14 AM, Timothy Ward wrote: > > I’m completely against having yet another bundle here when the other bundles > are the ones that will be be used by all the other projects. > > Well we already do have working spec bundles here at Aries (and have had for > quite some tim

Re: Aries Spec Jars

2017-12-22 Thread Christian Schneider
How about fixing the servicemix bundles in a branch and maybe even release a version from the branch to cope with the narrow time frame. So the specs bundles still live in servicemix and it is easier to consolidate them into one common version again. Christian 2017-12-22 10:14 GMT+01:00 Timothy W

Re: Aries Spec Jars

2017-12-22 Thread Timothy Ward
My mail client appears to have messed up the indenting, sorry about that. I hope that people can still make sense of the previous mail. Tim > On 22 Dec 2017, at 09:14, Timothy Ward wrote: > > I’m completely against having yet another bundle here when the other bundles > are the ones that will

Re: Aries Spec Jars

2017-12-22 Thread Timothy Ward
I’m completely against having yet another bundle here when the other bundles are the ones that will be be used by all the other projects. Well we already do have working spec bundles here at Aries (and have had for quite some time), so is your proposal to remove them? That’s fine as a proposal,

Re: Aries Spec Jars

2017-12-21 Thread Daniel Kulp
> On Dec 21, 2017, at 1:00 PM, Raymond Auge wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 12:43 PM, Daniel Kulp wrote: > >> Can I ask why the spec/api bundles that are provided by ServiceMix are not >> usable? Could the ServiceMix api bundles be updated to make them usable? >> > > Most of the Servic

Re: Aries Spec Jars

2017-12-21 Thread Raymond Auge
RE: geronimo The geronimo ones were good in large part, but they aren't complete and often no up to date and we couldn't afford to wait for someone to clean room the updates we needed. On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 12:43 PM, Daniel Kulp wrote: > Can I ask why the spec/api bundles that are provided b

Re: Aries Spec Jars

2017-12-21 Thread Daniel Kulp
Can I ask why the spec/api bundles that are provided by ServiceMix are not usable? Could the ServiceMix api bundles be updated to make them usable? I really would prefer not getting into a situation where we have a bunch of project that are commonly used together starting to pull in multiple v

Re: Aries Spec Jars

2017-12-21 Thread David Jencks
Another alternative might be to use the Geronimo spec jars and make sure the included osgi metadata is correct. David Jencks Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 21, 2017, at 6:28 AM, Raymond Auge wrote: > > Hi Tim, > > I was thinking of proposing this very thing over the last few weeks. > > I had

Re: Aries Spec Jars

2017-12-21 Thread Raymond Auge
Hi Tim, I was thinking of proposing this very thing over the last few weeks. I had already deliberately pushed the CDI related spec jars and also the spec jar for JAX-RS into an aries sub-group in maven in order to better accommodate and reflect this very thing. So, I would be a big +1 for havin

Aries Spec Jars

2017-12-21 Thread Timothy Ward
Hi all, I’ve noticed that an increasing number of Aries projects are producing wrapped spec jars (JPA, JAX-RS, CDI...). In general I think that this is a good thing, as few other Open Source projects package the jars with OSGi contract metadata. I do wonder, however, if these spec jars should b