To be clear, if someone wants to step up as the Plasma maintainer in
Apache Arrow, that's completely fine -- that would be a good outcome.
Many of us had already been concerned for a while about Plasma's
maintenance status -- lots of stale PRs and low engagement on JIRA
issues and mailing list
We to rely heavily on Plasma (we use Ray as well, but also Plasma independent
of Ray). I’ve started a thread on ray dev list to see if Rays plasma can be
used standalone outside of ray as well. That would allow us who use Plasma to
move to a standalone “ray plasma” when/if it’s removed from
I'd suggest as a preliminary that we stop packaging Plasma for 1-2
releases to see who is affected by the component's removal. Usage may
be more widespread than we realize, and we don't have much telemetry
to know for certain.
On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 1:26 PM Antoine Pitrou wrote:
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>
> Also, the
Also, the fact that Ray has forked Plasma means their implementation
becomes potentially incompatible with Arrow's. So even if we keep
Plasma in our codebase, we can't guarantee interoperability with Ray.
Regards
Antoine.
Le 18/08/2020 à 19:51, Wes McKinney a écrit :
> I do not think there
I do not think there is an urgency to remove Plasma from the Arrow
codebase (as it currently does not cause much maintenance burden), but
the reality is that Ray has already hard-forked and so new maintainers
will need to come out of the woodwork to help support the project if
it is to continue
We are very interested in Plasma as a stand-alone project. The fork would
hit us doubly hard, because it reduces both the appeal of an Arrow-specific
use case as well as our planned Ray integration.
We are developing effectively a database for network activity data that
runs with Arrow as data
To answer Wes's question, the Plasma inside of Ray is not currently usable
in a C++ library context, though it wouldn't be impossible to make that
happen.
I (or someone) could conduct a simple poll via Google Forms on the user
mailing list to gauge demand if we are concerned about breaking a lot
Le 15/08/2020 à 17:56, Wes McKinney a écrit :
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> What isn't clear is whether the Plasma that's in Ray is usable in a
> C++ library context (e.g. what we currently ship as libplasma-dev e.g.
> on Ubuntu/Debian). That seems still useful, but if the project isn't
> being actively maintained /
On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 11:56 PM Micah Kornfield wrote:
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> > Regarding Plasma, you're right we should have started this conversation
> > earlier! The way it's being developed in Ray currently isn't useful as a
> > standalone project. We realized that tighter integration with Ray's object
> >
>
> Regarding Plasma, you're right we should have started this conversation
> earlier! The way it's being developed in Ray currently isn't useful as a
> standalone project. We realized that tighter integration with Ray's object
> lifetime tracking could be important, and removing IPCs and making
Hi all,
Regarding Plasma, you're right we should have started this conversation
earlier! The way it's being developed in Ray currently isn't useful as a
standalone project. We realized that tighter integration with Ray's object
lifetime tracking could be important, and removing IPCs and making it
I'll add deprecation warnings to the pyarrow.serialize functions in
question, it will be pretty simple.
On Sun, Jul 12, 2020, 6:34 PM Neal Richardson
wrote:
> This seems like something to investigate after the 1.0 release.
>
> Neal
>
> On Sun, Jul 12, 2020 at 11:53 AM Antoine Pitrou
> wrote:
>
This seems like something to investigate after the 1.0 release.
Neal
On Sun, Jul 12, 2020 at 11:53 AM Antoine Pitrou wrote:
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> I'd certainly like to deprecate our custom Python serialization format,
> and using pickle protocol 5 instead is a very good idea.
>
> We can probably keep it in 1.0
I'd certainly like to deprecate our custom Python serialization format,
and using pickle protocol 5 instead is a very good idea.
We can probably keep it in 1.0 while raising a FutureWarning.
Regards
Antoine.
Le 12/07/2020 à 19:22, Wes McKinney a écrit :
> It appears that the Ray developers
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