> > One boss says = PMC list
> > The second "boss" says = Dev list.
Legally, there is one boss. Socially, this is a collaboration of peers.
In my opinion, Berin is correct that the PMC is responsible for
decision-making. And Stephen is also correct that the discussion "should"
happen on [EMAIL
Another thing I noticed...
If the Downloads of repo artifacts are interrupted for some reason, it doesn't
understand that, and on next start will not finish it and there will be
corrupted artifacts in the local cache.
Niclas
merlin-server.sh has the positional expansion of "$*" which I think should be
"$@".
>From man page;
The shell treats several parameters specially. These parameters may
only be referenced; assignment to them is not allowed.
* Expands to the positional parameters, sta
Next thing...
RUN_CMD="\"$JAVA\" \"-Djava.security.policy=$MERLIN_HOME/bin/security.policy\"
\"-Djava.ext.dirs=$MERLIN_HOME/ext\" -jar
\"$MERLIN_HOME/bin/lib/merlin-cli-3.2.jar\" \"[EMAIL PROTECTED]""
echo "RUN CMD IS: $RUN_CMD"
exec $RUN_CMD
does not work on my system.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mer
Niclas Hedhman wrote:
It is not only about "server" + "commandline", there are so much else, as LSD
points out, no plugin for IDEA, which for him would be a regression.
Is this not a Subversion plug-in for IDEA: http://svnup.tigris.org/
??
Niclas Hedhman wrote:
Feel free to bring up the issue again, especially when major Linux distros
come with it installed by default, the main IDEs have good working
implementations and the development community at large feels comfortable with
it.
Installed the Eclipse plug-in for Subversion toni
On Saturday 20 December 2003 12:47, Niclas Hedhman wrote:
> Found one small thing during download...
>
> "repository", not "reposiory" ;o)
>
> in the tar/zip filenames
Also inside the files.
Found it in the "project.xml" file, had the wrong value.
Committed already.
Niclas
niclas 2003/12/19 20:50:21
Modified:repository project.xml
Log:
Wrong ID in project descriptor.
Revision ChangesPath
1.8 +1 -1 avalon/repository/project.xml
Index: project.xml
===
RCS fil
Found one small thing during download...
"repository", not "reposiory" ;o)
in the tar/zip filenames
Niclas
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ge of the class
named LOADER to LoaderUtils. The merlin update includes the
inclusion of the Cygwin script updates.
Avalon Repository RC4
http://www.apache.org/~mcconnell/dist/avalon/avalon-repository/
CVS tag:
Merlin 20031219
http://www.apache.org/~mcconnell/dist/avalon/merlin/
If no issue
Niclas Hedhman wrote:
On Saturday 20 December 2003 10:41, Alex Karasulu wrote:
Just wanted to make sure the dev list got this email.
Will make sure I post on dev list wrt this conversation.
:o)
One boss says = PMC list
The second "boss" says = Dev list.
I just don't know where to turn
Alex Karasulu wrote:
Say Steve what do you think about adding a gencomp or gensvc to
the Maven Merlin plugin? It could pull down the needed templates
and start from there. What are your thoughts?
Actually - I was thinkig about this sort of thing in terms of an Eclispe
plugin - but yes - it
Guys,
Apache has set up Jira on nagoya (http://nagoya.apache.org/jira). We are in
the process of working with codehaus to migrate all of the ASF projects.
We're currently using a test load from codehaus. We have done some
preliminary checks, and it appears to be working OK. We have purged the
On Saturday 20 December 2003 10:41, Alex Karasulu wrote:
> Just wanted to make sure the dev list got this email.
> Will make sure I post on dev list wrt this conversation.
:o)
One boss says = PMC list
The second "boss" says = Dev list.
I just don't know where to turn...
Cheers,
Niclas
---
Say Steve what do you think about adding a gencomp or gensvc to
the Maven Merlin plugin? It could pull down the needed templates
and start from there. What are your thoughts?
Alex
>
> From: Stephen McConnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2003/12/19 Fri PM 09:18:58 EST
> To: Avalon Dev <[EMAIL
Just wanted to make sure the dev list got this email.
Will make sure I post on dev list wrt this conversation.
> >>My recent exposure to ClearCase also increases my fear that it is an
> >>over-engineered product, but I may be utterly wrong. I like the fact that 4
> >>commands does my daily job,
On Saturday 20 December 2003 10:27, Alex Karasulu wrote:
> If Peter and Niclas totally oppose the idea of a sandbox
> being based on SVN then its enough to avoid it for now.
As I have said repeatedly, "At the moment."
I feel we don't need to be guineapigs. Before saying "this so much better, or
Guys,
Excuse me for processing emails from least recent to most. I
just got throught Niclas' total rejection. And I must say we
have as Noel says made a complete about face. It rubbed us
completely wrong and we spat at Noel for even recommending it.
Poor guy he was only trying to help us and w
I have just imported a new subproject title "template" into the
Avalon Sandbox. The project is simply a template for a new project
that incorporates the maven scripts and directory layout for a
clean api/impl seperated project together with project level build
and site generation targets.
To creat
mcconnell2003/12/19 18:11:55
Modified:template/impl/conf sample.block
template project.xml
Log:
use template as the group name
Revision ChangesPath
1.2 +2 -2 avalon-sandbox/template/impl/conf/sample.block
Index: sample.block
==
mcconnell2003/12/19 17:57:10
Modified:template maven.xml
Log:
Add avalon:build as a prereq to site.
Revision ChangesPath
1.2 +1 -1 avalon-sandbox/template/maven.xml
Index: maven.xml
===
RC
mcconnell2003/12/19 17:41:35
Removed: kernel .cvsignore maven.xml project.xml
kernel/cli .cvsignore maven.xml merlin.properties
project.properties project.xml
Log:
Removal of cruft.
mcconnell2003/12/19 17:39:45
Removed: kernel/api .cvsignore maven.xml project.xml
kernel/api/src/java/org/apache/avalon/merlin Kernel.java
KernelController.java KernelCriteria.java
KernelException.java KernelRuntimeException.
mcconnell2003/12/19 17:05:59
Log:
A sample project.
Status:
Vendor Tag: MCCONNELL
Release Tags: INITIAL_SUBMISSION
N avalon-sandbox/template/LICENSE.txt
N avalon-sandbox/template/master.xml
N avalon-sandbox/template/maven.xml
N avalon-sandbox/template/project.prope
mcconnell2003/12/19 16:16:00
Modified:merlin/platform/src/bin merlinx.bat merlinx.sh
Log:
Properly correct merlinx command line parmeters.
Revision ChangesPath
1.8 +3 -3 avalon/merlin/platform/src/bin/merlinx.bat
Index: merlinx.bat
==
mcconnell2003/12/19 15:40:04
Modified:merlin/platform/src/bin merlinx.bat merlinx.sh
Log:
Corredct merlinx command line parmeters.
Revision ChangesPath
1.7 +1 -8 avalon/merlin/platform/src/bin/merlinx.bat
Index: merlinx.bat
==
S tag:
Merlin 20031219
http://www.apache.org/~mcconnell/dist/avalon/merlin/
If no issues are raised over the weekend I'll launch a new vote on
Monday.
Cheers, Steve.
--
Stephen J. McConnell
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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| Magic
class
named LOADER to LoaderUtils. The merlin update includes the inclusion
of the Cygwin script updates.
Avalon Repository RC4
http://www.apache.org/~mcconnell/dist/avalon/avalon-repository/
CVS tag:
Merlin 20031219
http://www.apache.org/~mcconnell/dist/avalon/merlin/
If no issues are raised
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
We have real projects using Subversion already. We will almost certainly be
migrating in 2004. The option on the table today was to move part of Avalon
into Subversion, not all of it.
FWIW,
I've got a Subversion server set up on my Win2k box at work. I use
TortoiseSVN fr
Are all the updated tutorials for this new RC in CVS already? Is there any
specific tutorial/unit test to look at to better understand the new
embedding stuff that you would recommend?
Assuming that this goes forward ;-), then this Embeddable Merlin is all that
Turbine 2.4 is waiting for then. C
Niclas Hedhman wrote:
> Peter Royal is negative to subversion.
> Right now, I am so negative that if it goes through at this point in time,
> I'll probably volunteerly leave Avalon as quickly as I came in.
Why?
>From what I saw of your comments, you had more questions than knowledge.
You praised
Jörg:
Have just applied the versions of the scripts you posted to me back
on the 12th (plus updates on cli version, updates to sync with repo
system properties and removal of merlin.home system property).
Can you please confirm that these all run ok in you environment?
Cheers, Steve.
Jörg Sc
mcconnell2003/12/19 09:41:22
Modified:merlin/platform/src/bin merlin-server.sh merlin.sh
Added: merlin/platform/src/bin merlinx.bat merlinx.sh
Log:
Sync. with repo RC4 and include Cygen scripts.
Revision ChangesPath
1.6 +9 -14 avalon/merlin/platform/src/
Leo Simons wrote:
Stephen McConnell wrote:
Leo Simons wrote:
Stephen McConnell wrote:
This is a vote for the release of the following products:
are these to be considered *final* releases?
Yes.
okay. And this vote is a vote by all of the community which will be
follow-upped by a pmc v
Stephen McConnell wrote:
Leo Simons wrote:
Stephen McConnell wrote:
This is a vote for the release of the following products:
are these to be considered *final* releases?
Yes.
okay. And this vote is a vote by all of the community which will be
follow-upped by a pmc vote to make things binding, r
Berin Loritsch wrote:
Any oppinions?
I would prefer to wait until
* svn is release 1.0 or later;
* IntelliJ IDEA has good support;
before we move anything over in daily use (I'm game for
experimentation though). I just love the cvs integration in
the idea 4.0 EAP.
- LSD
--
Stephen McConnell wrote:
Leo Simons wrote:
It's interesting to see what happens if you remove the
support/requirement for release semantics. You can still implement
singleton semantics, per-thread semantics, per-lookup semantics,
fixed-number-of-multithreaded-object semantics, and the like.
Whic
Niclas Hedhman wrote:
Shall we have a vote?
Shall the vote be on dev or pmc??
Give it a break ;o)
Seriously,
Peter Royal is negative to subversion.
Right now, I am so negative that if it goes through at this point in time,
I'll probably volunteerly leave Avalon as quickly as I came in.
I think
Niclas Hedhman wrote:
My recent exposure to ClearCase also increases my fear that it is an
over-engineered product, but I may be utterly wrong. I like the fact that 4
commands does my daily job, not the 15 or so commands in CC.
I agree with your assessment of ClearCase. However, I can say that
Shall we have a vote?
Shall the vote be on dev or pmc??
Give it a break ;o)
Seriously,
Peter Royal is negative to subversion.
Right now, I am so negative that if it goes through at this point in time,
I'll probably volunteerly leave Avalon as quickly as I came in.
I think some other "moderates
-Mensagem original-
De: Stephen McConnell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Looks like a few people want to see the LOADER renamed to something else
> - and given that we need to update and validate the scripts to take into
> account the the Cygwin fixes (which I missed) - I figured another RC
mcconnell2003/12/19 08:46:15
Modified:repository project.xml
repository/impl/src/java/org/apache/avalon/repository/impl
DefaultCacheManager.java DefaultRepository.java
repository/main/src/java/org/apache/avalon/repository/main
Berin Loritsch wrote:
Stephen McConnell wrote:
Bacause this is a technical subject - it does not belong on the PMC
list - it belongs here.
Actually, it is something the PMC is responsible for. Technical
matters that
the PMC has no say in are the kind that affect the CODE. Configuration
Ma
On Saturday 20 December 2003 01:18, Hamilton Verissimo de Oliveira (Engenharia
- SPO) wrote:
> De: Niclas Hedhman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > convince me to move away from CVS at this point in time.
>
> Sure. Or you just don't want to learn different commands arguments ;-)
There is a lot of sma
Stephen McConnell wrote:
Bacause this is a technical subject - it does not belong on the PMC list
- it belongs here.
Actually, it is something the PMC is responsible for. Technical matters that
the PMC has no say in are the kind that affect the CODE. Configuration
Management concerns such as JI
Niclas Hedhman wrote:
I don't know how long I can delay my vote;
On Thursday 18 December 2003 10:30, Stephen McConnell wrote:
1. Avalon Utilities 1.0
+1
2. Avalon Repository 1.2
+0 (not played with it yet)
Looks like a few people want to see the LOADER renamed to something
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
Berin Loritsch wrote:
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
We have projects using Subversion now. Sometime in 2004, there
will be a switch over from CVS. If people want, we can set up
avalon/[sandbox/]avalon-net.
This is a vote we should have with the PMC. BTW, shou
On Friday 19 December 2003 04:02, Berin Loritsch wrote:
> I believe we should merely migrate toward what is produced by the logging
> TLP.
And they need more IoC ;o) , and ways to block the direct access...
Niclas
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On Thursday 18 December 2003 22:35, Yannick Menager wrote:
> Not yet... that is on the TODO list ;-) Right now it can only be run
> standalone.
>
> But I'm planning on adding an adaptor to integrate it within IDEA and
> Eclipse
I need to take a sharp look at this... :o)
If I can wrap the "remote
I don't know how long I can delay my vote;
On Thursday 18 December 2003 10:30, Stephen McConnell wrote:
> 1. Avalon Utilities 1.0
+1
> 2. Avalon Repository 1.2
+0 (not played with it yet)
> 3. Avalon Meta 1.3
+1
> 4. Avalon Merlin 3.2
+0 (not played enough with it yet)
Niclas
Berin Loritsch wrote:
> Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> > We have projects using Subversion now. Sometime in 2004, there
> > will be a switch over from CVS. If people want, we can set up
> > avalon/[sandbox/]avalon-net.
> This is a vote we should have with the PMC. BTW, should we CC:
> the developer's
mcconnell2003/12/19 08:08:57
Removed: merlin/platform/src/repository/merlin/jnlps merlin.jnlp
merlin/platform/src/repository/merlin/xmls kernel.xml
Log:
Remove content that is out-of-date and not included in the dist.
--
Berin Loritsch wrote:
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
Berin Loritsch wrote:
Yes, I know the next update will remove an empty folder from your
working
copy, but stills ugly. Is there any plan to move to subversion?
The last time we talked about subversion ...
We have projects using Subversion now
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
Berin Loritsch wrote:
Yes, I know the next update will remove an empty folder from your
working
copy, but stills ugly. Is there any plan to move to subversion?
The last time we talked about subversion ...
We have projects using Subversion now. Sometime in 2004, there
-Mensagem original-
De: Noel J. Bergman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> We have projects using Subversion now. Sometime in 2004, there will be a
> switch over from CVS. If people want, we can set up
> avalon/[sandbox/]avalon-net.
Why not? That would be cool and a primary test that won't aff
>>> 2. Avalon Repository 1.2
>>
>>I looked in the site for more info about it, didn't find anything.
>>
> http://avalon.apache.org/repository
Doh!!
hammett
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Stephen McConnell wrote on Thursday, December 18, 2003 11:32 PM:
> Jörg Schaible wrote:
>> This package does not contain the patches to the scripts starting
>> merlin and have following errors:
>>
>> - Merlin cannot be started in Cygwin
>> - No parameter containing spaces can be defined in any OS
On Thursday 18 December 2003 20:02, Hamilton Verissimo de Oliveira (Engenharia
- SPO) wrote:
> The worst thing in the CVS is keeping folders. It's all right if a project
> wouldn't change, but I have never seen it happens.
>
> This weekend I'll change some things in the avalon# and don't like to g
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