Re: What to do with Sevak.

2003-02-19 Thread Peter Donald
On Tue, 18 Feb 2003 00:04, Paul Hammant wrote: > * Keep Sevak API at Apache > * Keep Catalina impl at Apache > * Move Jo! impl to Sourceforge > * Move Jetty impl to Sourceforge Keep them all together as else it will be hell to maintain and use. So move them all out to somewhere where they can evo

Re: What to do with Sevak.

2003-02-19 Thread Peter Donald
On Tue, 18 Feb 2003 04:30, Ulrich Mayring wrote: > Seriously, I don't want to spoil the party, but it sounds braindead to > me that we have to move our own, self-written code out of Apache, even > if everyone wants it to stay. Since when have you known politics to be sensible? :) -- Cheers, Pet

Re: What to do with Sevak.

2003-02-17 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Paul Hammant wrote, On 17/02/2003 14.04: Folks, We've had a number of ideas on what to do with Sevak, given we have license issues. I think the last idea was: * Keep Sevak API at Apache * Keep Catalina impl at Apache * Move Jo! impl to Sourceforge * Move Jetty impl to Sourceforge +1

Re: What to do with Sevak.

2003-02-17 Thread Leo Simons
Ulrich Mayring wrote: Paul Hammant wrote: We have had instruction on 'import'. Jars here or there are irrelvant. Hello Paul, so what about Sun's Java License? We're doing many imports of JDK public APIs :) Seriously, I don't want to spoil the party, but it sounds braindead to me that we

Re: What to do with Sevak.

2003-02-17 Thread Paul Hammant
Ulrich, > so what about Sun's Java License? We're doing many imports of JDK public > APIs :) I tend to agree. However, for teh record, APIs provided by the compilation environment as a default are typically exempt from the complex licensing situations. The GPL itself, however amazingly viral

Re: What to do with Sevak.

2003-02-17 Thread Peter Royal
On Monday, February 17, 2003, at 12:07 PM, Paul Hammant wrote: I can understand Jo! since it is GPL. You mean LGPL, which is very different to teh GPL, but similarly forbidden for use (import) at Apache. right :) But Jetty's license is based off the artistic license. What's wrong with that?

Re: What to do with Sevak.

2003-02-17 Thread Paul Hammant
> > Sevak API is fine. The impls, clearly, import other people's > > codebases. "using public APIs" also > > counts GPL. Here we are only talking about LGPL and a proprietary > > credit-affording license for > > Jetty. > > I can understand Jo! since it is GPL. You mean LGPL, which is very d

Re: What to do with Sevak.

2003-02-17 Thread Peter Royal
On Monday, February 17, 2003, at 09:33 AM, Paul Hammant wrote: Sevak API is fine. The impls, clearly, import other people's codebases. "using public APIs" also counts GPL. Here we are only talking about LGPL and a proprietary credit-affording license for Jetty. I can understand Jo! since it

Re: What to do with Sevak.

2003-02-17 Thread Ulrich Mayring
Paul Hammant wrote: We have had instruction on 'import'. Jars here or there are irrelvant. Hello Paul, so what about Sun's Java License? We're doing many imports of JDK public APIs :) Seriously, I don't want to spoil the party, but it sounds braindead to me that we have to move our own, se

Re: What to do with Sevak.

2003-02-17 Thread Paul Hammant
Ulrich, > > With respect to the former, I think sevak api should go to say incubator. The >catalina impl > > should either go with it, or end up with Catalina (as a separate download?). > > I think the Sevak API should remain with Phoenix, because it is a > central feature to an application

Re: What to do with Sevak.

2003-02-17 Thread Stephen McConnell
Paul: My preference is to keep Servak here as I think there is still more cooking to be done on this particular facility. What exactly are the license issues that would need to deal with? Cheers, Steve. Paul Hammant wrote: Folks, We've had a number of ideas on what to do with

Re: What to do with Sevak.

2003-02-17 Thread Ulrich Mayring
Paul Hammant wrote: With respect to the former, I think sevak api should go to say incubator. The catalina impl should either go with it, or end up with Catalina (as a separate download?). I think the Sevak API should remain with Phoenix, because it is a central feature to an application ser

What to do with Sevak.

2003-02-17 Thread Paul Hammant
Folks, We've had a number of ideas on what to do with Sevak, given we have license issues. I think the last idea was: * Keep Sevak API at Apache * Keep Catalina impl at Apache * Move Jo! impl to Sourceforge * Move Jetty impl to Sourceforge With respect to the former, I think sevak api s