Re: [DISCUSS] Trolls and community

2022-01-10 Thread JiaTao Tao
About maven, I still miss it. Arguing is pointless If all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail Regards! Aron Tao Vladimir Sitnikov 于2021年12月23日周四 07:10写道: > >[2] > http://ceki.blogspot.com/2010/05/forces-and-vulnerabilites-of-apache.html > > ^^ It is a must-read indeed. > I

Re: [DISCUSS] Trolls and community

2021-12-23 Thread Alessandro Solimando
Dear Calciters, it is indeed a hard conversation to reply to, but I really like this community, and I feel that the largest possible participation to this discussion is needed, I strongly encourage others to chime in as well, even if they are mostly readers of the ML. I think that Jacques

Re: [DISCUSS] Trolls and community

2021-12-22 Thread Albert
I echo Jacques’ nice and decent comments on this. *"""* *- I think Julian and Vladimir are far and above the most prolificcontributors on the project (by any measure I can use: code, commits, emailresponses, longevity, consistency, releases, etc). [3]- I think Julian and Vladimir

Re: [DISCUSS] Trolls and community

2021-12-22 Thread Vladimir Sitnikov
>[2] http://ceki.blogspot.com/2010/05/forces-and-vulnerabilites-of-apache.html ^^ It is a must-read indeed. I wish I read it much earlier than a week ago. Julian, as I see you did not reply to [1]. It implies you ignore my suggestions in that thread, or you think they are worse than what you

Re: [DISCUSS] Trolls and community

2021-12-22 Thread Jacques Nadeau
This is a hard message to respond to. Hopefully my comments will reduce the friction for others to share their own observations. Something that I will reiterate here is that Julian posted this on a public forum which is a request to not only get feedback from committers and PMC members but the

[DISCUSS] Trolls and community

2021-12-22 Thread Julian Hyde
Hey community, I need your help. You might have noticed that Vladimir and I are fighting it out in a long email thread [1]. I find it stressful and time-consuming to be involved in threads such as this with Vladimir. And I find myself taking out my frustrations on my family. I should not have to