Re: [PROPOSAL] ASF Board Report - December 2011

2011-12-08 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
Agree Claus, I made it on the "Powered By Karaf" logo. Regards JB On 12/09/2011 08:26 AM, Claus Ibsen wrote: On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 7:09 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote: Hi Christian, The report looks good to me. At first read the report looks good for me as well. Regarding the "Brandin

Re: [PROPOSAL] ASF Board Report - December 2011

2011-12-08 Thread Guillaume Nodet
The list of requirements are available at the bottom of the following page http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs.html On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 08:26, Claus Ibsen wrote: > On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 7:09 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré > wrote: >> Hi Christian, >> >> The report looks good to me. >>

Re: [PROPOSAL] ASF Board Report - December 2011

2011-12-08 Thread Claus Ibsen
On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 7:09 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote: > Hi Christian, > > The report looks good to me. > At first read the report looks good for me as well. > Regarding the "Branding Status" section, I think that all is compliant, but > I let Dan, Guillaume and Hadrian answer. > I think t

Re: [PROPOSAL] ASF Board Report - December 2011

2011-12-08 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
Hi Christian, The report looks good to me. Regarding the "Branding Status" section, I think that all is compliant, but I let Dan, Guillaume and Hadrian answer. Regards JB On 12/08/2011 11:49 PM, Christian Müller wrote: Hello! You can find my initial proposal for the ASF Board Report - Dece

[PROPOSAL] ASF Board Report - December 2011

2011-12-08 Thread Christian Müller
Hello! You can find my initial proposal for the ASF Board Report - December 2011 at [1]. Feel free to amend/correct wherever it's necessary. I will/have to submit the board report until 12/14/2011 to the Apache board. We have of course to alter the "Branding Status" section. @Dan, Guillaume, Had

Re: [DISCUSS] - Align Camel karaf commands as Karaf is doing

2011-12-08 Thread Ioannis Canellos
On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 3:08 PM, Christian Schneider wrote > > karaf uses namings like: > bundle:list > service:list > > These are resource oriented what means that the scheme bundle references a > resource type. The are not exactly resource oriented, I would say the are "feature" oriented. Take

Re: [DISCUSS] - Align Camel karaf commands as Karaf is doing

2011-12-08 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
Yup, agree. Regards JB On 12/08/2011 06:29 PM, Christian Schneider wrote: Basically this is a good idea to wait. But then it may be best to not change the commands at all for 2.9.0 so people have to adapt only once. What do you think? Christian Am 08.12.2011 16:06, schrieb Guillaume Nodet:

Re: [DISCUSS] - Align Camel karaf commands as Karaf is doing

2011-12-08 Thread Guillaume Nodet
That's exactly what I had in mind. On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 18:29, Christian Schneider wrote: > Basically this is a good idea to wait. But then it may be best to not change > the commands at all for 2.9.0 so people have to adapt only once. > > What do you think? > > Christian > > > Am 08.12.2011 16

Re: [DISCUSS] - Align Camel karaf commands as Karaf is doing

2011-12-08 Thread Christian Schneider
Basically this is a good idea to wait. But then it may be best to not change the commands at all for 2.9.0 so people have to adapt only once. What do you think? Christian Am 08.12.2011 16:06, schrieb Guillaume Nodet: +1 I don't see the need for a change now given that we'll have to change a

Re: [DISCUSS] - Align Camel karaf commands as Karaf is doing

2011-12-08 Thread Guillaume Nodet
+1 I don't see the need for a change now given that we'll have to change again with subshells. On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 12:54, j...@nanthrax.net wrote: > Hi Christian, > > I would wait the subshells and let the commands as it is. > > My 2 cents ;) > Regards > JB > > -- > Jean-Baptiste Onofré > jbo

Re: [DISCUSS] - Camel 2.9 release

2011-12-08 Thread Hadrian Zbarcea
You are correct, 2.10-SNAPSHOT. It doesn't necessarily mean we will have a 2.10 (although I assume we will) as we can change that later when needed. Cheers On 12/07/2011 04:58 PM, Christian Müller wrote: Thank you very much Claus of taking care of it. I'm wondering what the new trunk version

RE: [DISCUSS] - Camel 2.9 release

2011-12-08 Thread Joshua Watkins
I would like to put my vote behind a 2.10 as it would probably make it outa bit faster than the a shiney new 3.0 version. These are mainly forselfish reasons of being able to have camel on jetty 7.6 instead of 7.5.3.There have been reported instability issues in 7.5.3(1). These instabilityissues

Re: [DISCUSS] - Align Camel karaf commands as Karaf is doing

2011-12-08 Thread Christian Schneider
Hi Claus, karaf uses namings like: bundle:list service:list These are resource oriented what means that the scheme bundle references a resource type. camel:route-list is not resource oriented. camel references a framwork. camel-route:list would be more similar to karaf. Of course we can not

Re: [DISCUSS] - Align Camel karaf commands as Karaf is doing

2011-12-08 Thread Claus Ibsen
Hi On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 9:49 AM, Christian Schneider wrote: > > I really like the idea of having camel:route and then simply call list or > start or stop. > > We can even do that without the sub shells already by naming the commands > slightly different. > > Instead > camel:route-list > camel:c

Re: [DISCUSS] - Align Camel karaf commands as Karaf is doing

2011-12-08 Thread j...@nanthrax.net
Hi Christian, I would wait the subshells and let the commands as it is. My 2 cents ;) Regards JB -- Jean-Baptiste Onofré jbono...@apache.org http://blog.nanthrax.net Talend - http://wwx.talend.com - Reply message - From: "Christian Schneider" To: Subject: [DISCUSS] - Align Camel karaf

Re: [DISCUSS] - Align Camel karaf commands as Karaf is doing

2011-12-08 Thread Christian Schneider
The number of characters per command is the same. Using tab can save you from typing most characters in both styles. So I think the focus on resources really makes the difference and I think it is more natural to think in resources for humans than in commands. Christian Am 08.12.2011 10:38, s

Re: [DISCUSS] - Align Camel karaf commands as Karaf is doing

2011-12-08 Thread Charles Moulliard
Hi, I prefer that we keep as command family name a short name. "camel" is fine but "camel-route" or "camel-context" are too long. Imagine when operating a project on a platform, the number of characters to be typed on the keyboard. This has an impact which is not negligible. So why not using

Re: [DISCUSS] - Align Camel karaf commands as Karaf is doing

2011-12-08 Thread Christian Schneider
I really like the idea of having camel:route and then simply call list or start or stop. We can even do that without the sub shells already by naming the commands slightly different. Instead camel:route-list camel:context-list I propose to have: camel-route:list camel-context:list This wo