Re: [HEADS UP] Jakarta 10 migration

2022-11-25 Thread Otavio Rodolfo Piske
Hello, This looks cool. Please let me know if you would like some help setting up the github actions. We have some of them that you can use as a starting point and maybe you can tweak them for that. If you believe these branches are going to be active for a while, there's another thing you might

Re: Camel 4 roadmap and affect on Camel 3

2022-11-25 Thread Otavio Rodolfo Piske
Hi Claus, I like the plan and I think we have something doable for Camel 4. IMHO, I think it's important for us to get ready for several upcoming releases of projects that are important to our community (Spring Boot 6, Quarkus 3, Jakarta 10). In my wish list I also have a few internal refactoring

Re: Evolution of Kamelets

2022-11-25 Thread Otavio Rodolfo Piske
Hi Andrea, I think those are good ideas and I believe it would be beneficial for the project to make the Kamelets a more prominent concept within our projects. I believe we can reach a larger audience by doing so. In particular, I like the idea of the Kamelets marketplace. All in all, it's +1 fro

[HEADS UP] Jakarta 10 migration

2022-11-25 Thread Guillaume Nodet
I've begun working on the Jakarta 10 migration. I tried with a 4.x branch [1], but it's difficult to maintain with the number of commits in the main branch. So I decided to switch to a different mechanism. I've created several branches upstream : * jakarta-rewrite [2] : contains a migration shell

Re: Camel 3.18.4 Release

2022-11-25 Thread Gregor Zurowski
Already started on it. On Fri, Nov 25, 2022 at 10:18 AM Claus Ibsen wrote: > > Hi > > Okay so I have checked the 3.18.x branches and they all pass CS and RAT > checks. > Also I backported some camel-karaf OSGi fixes and checked that the > features.xml validate and works. > > Gregor, we are ready

Re: Camel 4 roadmap and affect on Camel 3

2022-11-25 Thread Claus Ibsen
Hi There is an early start on Camel v4 work in this PR https://github.com/apache/camel/pull/8579 After the Camel 3.20 LTS release, then we should likely switch over the "main" branch to become the work branch for v4. And then have a camel-3.x branch for ongoing v3 work. When that time comes then

Re: Evolution of Kamelets

2022-11-25 Thread Pasquale Congiusti
I think the first point to address is about the Kamelet API [1]. Right now this is living (and evolving) as part of Camel K. If we decide to spin off something different, then we need a new project (or reuse the catalog) to take care of the API maintenance (also the CRD part). As an alternative, we

Re: Camel 4 roadmap and affect on Camel 3

2022-11-25 Thread Claus Ibsen
On Fri, Nov 25, 2022 at 3:05 PM Nicolas Filotto wrote: > Hi Claus, > > That sounds like a good plan, here are the first questions that I have in > mind: > > * Why do we need to keep on releasing new LTS versions of Camel 3? > * Why not simply consider 3.20 as the last LTS version of Camel

Re: Camel 4 roadmap and affect on Camel 3

2022-11-25 Thread Nicolas Filotto
Hi Claus, That sounds like a good plan, here are the first questions that I have in mind: * Why do we need to keep on releasing new LTS versions of Camel 3? * Why not simply consider 3.20 as the last LTS version of Camel 3 and only maintain it? * What kind of features/improvements do

Re: Camel 4 roadmap and affect on Camel 3

2022-11-25 Thread Claus Ibsen
Hi I think after a period of review and feedback on this subject, then we should post an official blog post on the website about the roadmap and timelines. On Fri, Nov 25, 2022 at 11:42 AM Claus Ibsen wrote: > Hi > > This is a proposal for a plan for Apache Camel 4 and how this can affect > Ca

Re: Evolution of Kamelets

2022-11-25 Thread Claus Ibsen
Hi Thanks for starting this important topic. I will come back with more thoughts later. But one thing that stood out to me is that the kamelets documentation today is tied into knative [1] and kamelet bindings. it looks a bit like the documentation is auto generated for that part. There's a lot o

Camel 4 roadmap and affect on Camel 3

2022-11-25 Thread Claus Ibsen
Hi This is a proposal for a plan for Apache Camel 4 and how this can affect Camel 3. Summary === The overall scope is that the leap from Camel 3 to 4 is a lot less than going from Camel 2 to 3. And that we have a timebox approach where we aim for a 6 month period of work. The need for Cam

Re: Camel 3.18.4 Release

2022-11-25 Thread Claus Ibsen
Hi Okay so I have checked the 3.18.x branches and they all pass CS and RAT checks. Also I backported some camel-karaf OSGi fixes and checked that the features.xml validate and works. Gregor, we are ready for the release. On Thu, Nov 24, 2022 at 8:14 PM Claus Ibsen wrote: > Hi > > We have upgr

Evolution of Kamelets

2022-11-25 Thread Andrea Cosentino
Hello, Kamelets are becoming an important and universal higher-level components / building-blocks of Apache Camel; that are universal usable in all of Camels runtimes and projects, whether its Camel on Spring Boot, Camel Standalone, Camel Kafka Connector, Camel Quarkus, Camel JBang and Camel K as