Re: [VOTE] Accept karaf-camel as new Apache Karaf subproject

2023-01-18 Thread Andrea Cosentino
As a side note, it's not only aligning the features, it's also upgrading the servicemix bundles to be able to align, JB knows what I'm talking about. I helped there a lot too (less in the last year or so) and it's really a mess. Il mer 18 gen 2023, 20:43 Romain Manni-Bucau ha scritto: > Le mer.

Re: [VOTE] Accept karaf-camel as new Apache Karaf subproject

2023-01-18 Thread Romain Manni-Bucau
Le mer. 18 janv. 2023 à 20:17, Andrea Cosentino a écrit : > Il mer 18 gen 2023, 20:06 Romain Manni-Bucau ha > scritto: > > > Le mer. 18 janv. 2023 à 19:43, Andrea Cosentino a > > écrit : > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > The point is just one in relation to OSGi metadata. The components will > > be

Re: [VOTE] Accept karaf-camel as new Apache Karaf subproject

2023-01-18 Thread Andrea Cosentino
Il mer 18 gen 2023, 20:06 Romain Manni-Bucau ha scritto: > Le mer. 18 janv. 2023 à 19:43, Andrea Cosentino a > écrit : > > > Hello, > > > > The point is just one in relation to OSGi metadata. The components will > be > > consumed, also, by runtimes that don't need OSGi metadata, so why all the >

Re: [VOTE] Accept karaf-camel as new Apache Karaf subproject

2023-01-18 Thread Matt Pavlovich
> On Jan 18, 2023, at 12:43 PM, Andrea Cosentino wrote: > > Hello, > > The point is just one in relation to OSGi metadata. The components will be > consumed, also, by runtimes that don't need OSGi metadata, so why all the > components should be with OSGi metadata and packaged as bundles? Hi A

Re: [VOTE] Accept karaf-camel as new Apache Karaf subproject

2023-01-18 Thread Romain Manni-Bucau
Le mer. 18 janv. 2023 à 19:43, Andrea Cosentino a écrit : > Hello, > > The point is just one in relation to OSGi metadata. The components will be > consumed, also, by runtimes that don't need OSGi metadata, so why all the > components should be with OSGi metadata and packaged as bundles? > I'm m

Re: [VOTE] Accept karaf-camel as new Apache Karaf subproject

2023-01-18 Thread Andrea Cosentino
Hello, The point is just one in relation to OSGi metadata. The components will be consumed, also, by runtimes that don't need OSGi metadata, so why all the components should be with OSGi metadata and packaged as bundles? I don't see the reason why. At least the OSGi metadata should be generated u

Re: [VOTE] Accept karaf-camel as new Apache Karaf subproject

2023-01-18 Thread Matt Pavlovich
I have a similar question on this point-- > On Jan 18, 2023, at 12:02 PM, Łukasz Dywicki wrote: > > 6) I do not see any sign of what is going to happen with OSGi metadata which > is present for Apache Camel 3.x components. Is Camel 4.x going to retain OSGi > metadata? How is maintaining OGSI

Re: [VOTE] Accept karaf-camel as new Apache Karaf subproject

2023-01-18 Thread Łukasz Dywicki
-1 from my side Given the scope of work and possible improvements I do not see a strong reason to move camel-karaf into karaf-camel hence my veto on the proposal. This vote opens up a dangerous path where Karaf gains more fat and moves into direction of integration product on its own while, til

Re: [VOTE] Accept karaf-camel as new Apache Karaf subproject

2023-01-18 Thread Freeman Fang
+1 (binding as Karaf PMC member) Freeman On Wed, Jan 18, 2023 at 5:03 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote: > Hi guys, > > The Apache Camel community proposed to move Camel Karaf to the Apache > Karaf project (as a new subproject). > > As a reminder, Camel Karaf provides: > - support Camel Contexts/R

Re: [VOTE] Accept karaf-camel as new Apache Karaf subproject

2023-01-18 Thread fpapon
+1 (binding) regards, François On 18/01/2023 11:03, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote: Hi guys, The Apache Camel community proposed to move Camel Karaf to the Apache Karaf project (as a new subproject). As a reminder, Camel Karaf provides: - support Camel Contexts/Routes as OSGi services (camel-cor

Re: [VOTE] Accept karaf-camel as new Apache Karaf subproject

2023-01-18 Thread Claus Ibsen
+1 (binding) On Wed, Jan 18, 2023 at 11:03 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote: > Hi guys, > > The Apache Camel community proposed to move Camel Karaf to the Apache > Karaf project (as a new subproject). > > As a reminder, Camel Karaf provides: > - support Camel Contexts/Routes as OSGi services (camel

Re: [VOTE] Accept karaf-camel as new Apache Karaf subproject

2023-01-18 Thread Zineb Bendhiba
+1 (binding) Le mer. 18 janv. 2023 à 11:03, Jean-Baptiste Onofré a écrit : > Hi guys, > > The Apache Camel community proposed to move Camel Karaf to the Apache > Karaf project (as a new subproject). > > As a reminder, Camel Karaf provides: > - support Camel Contexts/Routes as OSGi services (cam

Re: [VOTE] Accept karaf-camel as new Apache Karaf subproject

2023-01-18 Thread Andrea Cosentino
+1 (binding) -- Andrea Cosentino  -- Apache Camel PMC Chair Apache Karaf Committer Apache Servicemix PMC Member Email: ancosen1...@yahoo.com Twitter: @oscerd2 Github: oscerd On Wednesday, January 18, 2023 at 11:03:27 AM GMT+1, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:

Re: [VOTE] Accept karaf-camel as new Apache Karaf subproject

2023-01-18 Thread Romain Manni-Bucau
Any hope to evaluate the "bunch" of users which would move to this new project and not spring-boot/quarkus/anything-hype-cause-$$? Can be great to see if the community wants to focus on karaf or aggregation on the long run due to available/active resources. If we have proofs there is a need and c

Re: [VOTE] Accept karaf-camel as new Apache Karaf subproject

2023-01-18 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
Correct, I mentioned this in my previous email (camel-karaf to karaf-camel). Regards JB On Wed, Jan 18, 2023 at 1:26 PM Claus Ibsen wrote: > > Hi > > And the source code java package names needs to be migrated as well > org.apache.camel.karaf -> org.apache.karaf.camel > > And documentation is mo

Re: [VOTE] Accept karaf-camel as new Apache Karaf subproject

2023-01-18 Thread Claus Ibsen
Hi And the source code java package names needs to be migrated as well org.apache.camel.karaf -> org.apache.karaf.camel And documentation is moved over to Apache Karaf, where the karaf camel releases its own new set of documentation/website. The existing Camel Karaf 3.x will be maintained as-is

Re: Release Camel 3.18.5

2023-01-18 Thread Gregor Zurowski
Sounds like a plan. Will check in tomorrow. Thanks, Gregor On Wed, Jan 18, 2023 at 12:09 PM Claus Ibsen wrote: > > Hi Gregor > > If you wait till tomorrow then Spring Boot 2.7.8 is to be released, it > would be good to get that upgraded before cutting. > https://calendar.spring.io/ > > On Wed, J

Re: [VOTE] Accept karaf-camel as new Apache Karaf subproject

2023-01-18 Thread Claus Ibsen
Hi This SHOULD also mean that the project should be known as karaf-camel AND that the artifacts released for download and maven central should have changed GAVs groupId = org.apache.karaf.camel artifactId = karaf-camel-xxx version = x.y.z For version then it may want to follow the Camel version,

Re: Release Camel 3.18.5

2023-01-18 Thread Claus Ibsen
Hi Gregor If you wait till tomorrow then Spring Boot 2.7.8 is to be released, it would be good to get that upgraded before cutting. https://calendar.spring.io/ On Wed, Jan 18, 2023 at 11:02 AM Gregor Zurowski wrote: > Hi, > > Sounds good. We released 3.18.4 on December 1st, so it's probably a >

Re: Release Camel 3.18.5

2023-01-18 Thread Claus Ibsen
Hi It would be good to upgrade to spring 5.3.25 in the 3.18.x branch before cutting the release. On Wed, Jan 18, 2023 at 11:02 AM Gregor Zurowski wrote: > Hi, > > Sounds good. We released 3.18.4 on December 1st, so it's probably a > good time to get the release started. > > I am taking a look

Re: [VOTE] Accept karaf-camel as new Apache Karaf subproject

2023-01-18 Thread Nicolas Filotto
Hi, Great news! +1 (non-binding) Regards, Nicolas From: Jean-Baptiste Onofr? Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2023 11:03 To: dev Cc: dev Subject: [VOTE] Accept karaf-camel as new Apache Karaf subproject Hi guys, The Apache Camel community proposed to move Camel

Re: [VOTE] Accept karaf-camel as new Apache Karaf subproject

2023-01-18 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
Hi Andrea, yes, thanks. I forgot to mention that the move if for Camel 4.x (not the existing branch/version). Regards JB On Wed, Jan 18, 2023 at 11:05 AM Andrea Cosentino wrote: > > As as side note to what JB just wrote: > > as Apache Camel community we'll still maintain the 3.x side of the > p

Re: [VOTE] Accept karaf-camel as new Apache Karaf subproject

2023-01-18 Thread Andrea Cosentino
As as side note to what JB just wrote: as Apache Camel community we'll still maintain the 3.x side of the projects, for continuity, Karaf-camel will be the house for the Camel 4.x OSGi support. Thanks. Il giorno mer 18 gen 2023 alle ore 11:03 Jean-Baptiste Onofré < j...@nanthrax.net> ha scritto:

[VOTE] Accept karaf-camel as new Apache Karaf subproject

2023-01-18 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
Hi guys, The Apache Camel community proposed to move Camel Karaf to the Apache Karaf project (as a new subproject). As a reminder, Camel Karaf provides: - support Camel Contexts/Routes as OSGi services (camel-core-osgi) - Camel components specific to OSGi and Karaf (camel-blueprint, camel-scr, ..

Re: Release Camel 3.18.5

2023-01-18 Thread Gregor Zurowski
Hi, Sounds good. We released 3.18.4 on December 1st, so it's probably a good time to get the release started. I am taking a look now and can start cutting the release today. Thanks, Gregor On Tue, Jan 17, 2023 at 10:16 AM Andrea Cosentino wrote: > > Hello, > > I think we should do a new 3.18.x