Re: [DISCUSS] - Align Camel karaf commands as Karaf is doing

2011-12-10 Thread Christian Müller
The same for me. Best, Christian Sent from a mobile device Am 09.12.2011 12:34 schrieb "Claus Ibsen" : > Hi > > I guess people may start to become a bit confused with this. I am a bit. > > Anyway I would like for Camel Karaf Shell to follow the same practice > as Karaf itself. > So whatever you

Re: [DISCUSS] - Align Camel karaf commands as Karaf is doing

2011-12-09 Thread Claus Ibsen
Hi I guess people may start to become a bit confused with this. I am a bit. Anyway I would like for Camel Karaf Shell to follow the same practice as Karaf itself. So whatever you guys do there, I think is fine for Camel. On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 8:01 PM, Ioannis Canellos wrote: > On Thu, Dec 8,

Re: [DISCUSS] - Align Camel karaf commands as Karaf is doing

2011-12-08 Thread Ioannis Canellos
On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 3:08 PM, Christian Schneider wrote > > karaf uses namings like: > bundle:list > service:list > > These are resource oriented what means that the scheme bundle references a > resource type. The are not exactly resource oriented, I would say the are "feature" oriented. Take

Re: [DISCUSS] - Align Camel karaf commands as Karaf is doing

2011-12-08 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
apache.org http://blog.nanthrax.net Talend - http://wwx.talend.com - Reply message - From: "Christian Schneider" To: Subject: [DISCUSS] - Align Camel karaf commands as Karaf is doing Date: Thu, Dec 8, 2011 12:05 pm The number of characters per command is the same. Using tab can

Re: [DISCUSS] - Align Camel karaf commands as Karaf is doing

2011-12-08 Thread Guillaume Nodet
>> Hi Christian, >>> >>> I would wait the subshells and let the commands as it is. >>> >>> My 2 cents ;) >>> Regards >>> JB >>> >>> -- >>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré >>> jbono...@apache.org >>> http:

Re: [DISCUSS] - Align Camel karaf commands as Karaf is doing

2011-12-08 Thread Christian Schneider
ly message - From: "Christian Schneider" To: Subject: [DISCUSS] - Align Camel karaf commands as Karaf is doing Date: Thu, Dec 8, 2011 12:05 pm The number of characters per command is the same. Using tab can save you from typing most characters in both styles. So I think the focus

Re: [DISCUSS] - Align Camel karaf commands as Karaf is doing

2011-12-08 Thread Guillaume Nodet
B > > -- > Jean-Baptiste Onofré > jbono...@apache.org > http://blog.nanthrax.net > Talend - http://wwx.talend.com > > - Reply message - > From: "Christian Schneider" > To: > Subject: [DISCUSS] - Align Camel karaf commands as Karaf is doing > Date

Re: [DISCUSS] - Align Camel karaf commands as Karaf is doing

2011-12-08 Thread Christian Schneider
Hi Claus, karaf uses namings like: bundle:list service:list These are resource oriented what means that the scheme bundle references a resource type. camel:route-list is not resource oriented. camel references a framwork. camel-route:list would be more similar to karaf. Of course we can not

Re: [DISCUSS] - Align Camel karaf commands as Karaf is doing

2011-12-08 Thread Claus Ibsen
Hi On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 9:49 AM, Christian Schneider wrote: > > I really like the idea of having camel:route and then simply call list or > start or stop. > > We can even do that without the sub shells already by naming the commands > slightly different. > > Instead > camel:route-list > camel:c

Re: [DISCUSS] - Align Camel karaf commands as Karaf is doing

2011-12-08 Thread j...@nanthrax.net
lign Camel karaf commands as Karaf is doing Date: Thu, Dec 8, 2011 12:05 pm The number of characters per command is the same. Using tab can save you from typing most characters in both styles. So I think the focus on resources really makes the difference and I think it is more natural to think in res

Re: [DISCUSS] - Align Camel karaf commands as Karaf is doing

2011-12-08 Thread Christian Schneider
The number of characters per command is the same. Using tab can save you from typing most characters in both styles. So I think the focus on resources really makes the difference and I think it is more natural to think in resources for humans than in commands. Christian Am 08.12.2011 10:38, s

Re: [DISCUSS] - Align Camel karaf commands as Karaf is doing

2011-12-08 Thread Charles Moulliard
Hi, I prefer that we keep as command family name a short name. "camel" is fine but "camel-route" or "camel-context" are too long. Imagine when operating a project on a platform, the number of characters to be typed on the keyboard. This has an impact which is not negligible. So why not using

Re: [DISCUSS] - Align Camel karaf commands as Karaf is doing

2011-12-08 Thread Christian Schneider
I really like the idea of having camel:route and then simply call list or start or stop. We can even do that without the sub shells already by naming the commands slightly different. Instead camel:route-list camel:context-list I propose to have: camel-route:list camel-context:list This wo

Re: [DISCUSS] - Align Camel karaf commands as Karaf is doing

2011-12-05 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
Thanks Claus. I'm working on it today ;) Regards JB On 12/06/2011 06:56 AM, Claus Ibsen wrote: Hi I created a ticket to track this https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CAMEL-4746 On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 5:27 PM, Johan Edstrom wrote: +1 On Dec 5, 2011, at 1:50 AM, Christian Müller wrote:

Re: [DISCUSS] - Align Camel karaf commands as Karaf is doing

2011-12-05 Thread Claus Ibsen
Hi I created a ticket to track this https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CAMEL-4746 On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 5:27 PM, Johan Edstrom wrote: > +1 > > On Dec 5, 2011, at 1:50 AM, Christian Müller wrote: > >> +1 >> >> Sent from a mobile device >> Am 02.12.2011 16:30 schrieb "Claus Ibsen" : >> >>> Hi

Re: [DISCUSS] - Align Camel karaf commands as Karaf is doing

2011-12-05 Thread Johan Edstrom
+1 On Dec 5, 2011, at 1:50 AM, Christian Müller wrote: > +1 > > Sent from a mobile device > Am 02.12.2011 16:30 schrieb "Claus Ibsen" : > >> Hi >> >> On the Karaf @dev they are talking about changing the naming of the >> commands. >> >> http://karaf.922171.n3.nabble.com/PROPOSAL-New-Karaf-com

Re: [DISCUSS] - Align Camel karaf commands as Karaf is doing

2011-12-05 Thread James Strachan
On 2 December 2011 15:29, Claus Ibsen wrote: > Hi > > On the Karaf @dev they are talking about changing the naming of the commands. > http://karaf.922171.n3.nabble.com/PROPOSAL-New-Karaf-commands-norm-td3430815.html > > eg > camel:list-routes  --> camel:route-list Or we could even go with route:l

Re: [DISCUSS] - Align Camel karaf commands as Karaf is doing

2011-12-05 Thread James Strachan
+1 On 2 December 2011 15:57, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote: > Hi Claus, > > fully agree, and in fact, it's in my TODO list. > > If all are agree, I will do it :). > > I plan to commit Karaf sub-shell (on Karaf trunk) over the week end. > > What do you think to update Camel trunk to start to use sub-

Re: [DISCUSS] - Align Camel karaf commands as Karaf is doing

2011-12-05 Thread Christian Müller
+1 Sent from a mobile device Am 02.12.2011 16:30 schrieb "Claus Ibsen" : > Hi > > On the Karaf @dev they are talking about changing the naming of the > commands. > > http://karaf.922171.n3.nabble.com/PROPOSAL-New-Karaf-commands-norm-td3430815.html > > eg > camel:list-routes --> camel:route-list

Re: [DISCUSS] - Align Camel karaf commands as Karaf is doing

2011-12-04 Thread Ioannis Canellos
+1 On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 5:57 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote: > Hi Claus, > > fully agree, and in fact, it's in my TODO list. > > If all are agree, I will do it :). > > I plan to commit Karaf sub-shell (on Karaf trunk) over the week end. > > What do you think to update Camel trunk to start to us

Re: [DISCUSS] - Align Camel karaf commands as Karaf is doing

2011-12-02 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
Hi Claus, fully agree, and in fact, it's in my TODO list. If all are agree, I will do it :). I plan to commit Karaf sub-shell (on Karaf trunk) over the week end. What do you think to update Camel trunk to start to use sub-shell (maybe it's better to wait that Camel 2.9.0 is out first) ? Reg

[DISCUSS] - Align Camel karaf commands as Karaf is doing

2011-12-02 Thread Claus Ibsen
Hi On the Karaf @dev they are talking about changing the naming of the commands. http://karaf.922171.n3.nabble.com/PROPOSAL-New-Karaf-commands-norm-td3430815.html eg camel:list-routes --> camel:route-list I think we should do the same for the Camel karaf commands. -- Claus Ibsen ---