Re: [DISCUSS] Message Store

2012-10-25 Thread Christian Müller
We can discuss some ideas at ApacheCon EU (I will be there). But we have to make sure we share the content of our discussion afterwards here at this list. Looking forward to meeting you there... Best, Christian Sent from a mobile device Am 25.10.2012 15:55 schrieb "Christian Ohr" : > I would ne

Re: [DISCUSS] Message Store

2012-10-25 Thread Christian Ohr
I would never dare to subvert the Camel community - in fact that's why I started this thread here. Christian 2012/10/25 Rob Davies : > +1 > > > > On 25 Oct 2012, at 12:44, Hadrian Zbarcea wrote: > >> There will be quite a few Camel committers at ACEU. Technical discussions >> must be inclusive

Re: [DISCUSS] Message Store

2012-10-25 Thread Rob Davies
+1 On 25 Oct 2012, at 12:44, Hadrian Zbarcea wrote: > There will be quite a few Camel committers at ACEU. Technical discussions > must be inclusive of the community and take place on this dev@ list though. > > Hadrian > > > On 10/25/2012 03:47 AM, Christian Ohr wrote: >> Let me quickly sum

Re: [DISCUSS] Message Store

2012-10-25 Thread Hadrian Zbarcea
There will be quite a few Camel committers at ACEU. Technical discussions must be inclusive of the community and take place on this dev@ list though. Hadrian On 10/25/2012 03:47 AM, Christian Ohr wrote: Let me quickly summarize - there appears to be quite some interest from the community (a

Re: [DISCUSS] Message Store

2012-10-25 Thread Christian Ohr
Let me quickly summarize - there appears to be quite some interest from the community (and apparently a number of homegrown solutions to fill the gap) and some plans around a Message History EIP (at the bottom of http://camel.apache.org/camel-30-roadmap.html) for a yet unscheduled future Camel rel

Re: [DISCUSS] Message Store

2012-10-24 Thread James Carman
I'm +1 for this feature and wouldn't mind helping out. We've done something very similar to this at work and would very much like for it to be "baked in" already for us. On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 9:50 AM, Claus Ibsen wrote: > On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 8:46 AM, Bengt Rodehav wrote: >> I think this

Re: [DISCUSS] Message Store

2012-10-24 Thread Björn Bength
Yeah We also need this kind of message store right now. Our need is claim-check, history, polling consumer and with random access. I'd thought we'd try with MongoDB, because it fits our current use case, if no camel component fits the bill. But it would be nice to be able to leverage an "official"

Re: [DISCUSS] Message Store

2012-10-24 Thread Claus Ibsen
On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 8:46 AM, Bengt Rodehav wrote: > I think this is an excellent idea. We're using Camel as the basis for our > integration platform and a message store is a mandatory component. We need: > > - To store all message traffic in order to have an audit trail. Both > successful and

Re: [DISCUSS] Message Store

2012-10-24 Thread aedwards
+1 for this feature. It is very much needed. Agree with Bengt's comments. -- View this message in context: http://camel.465427.n5.nabble.com/DISCUSS-Message-Store-tp5721454p5721503.html Sent from the Camel Development mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: [DISCUSS] Message Store

2012-10-23 Thread Bengt Rodehav
I think this is an excellent idea. We're using Camel as the basis for our integration platform and a message store is a mandatory component. We need: - To store all message traffic in order to have an audit trail. Both successful and failed exchanges. - To provide a certain level of manual retry.

Re: [DISCUSS] Message Store

2012-10-23 Thread Willem jiang
There is a lots of way to implement to Message store. Option1. If we treat is a first class of Camel, we could build up a set of API to let aggregator or tracer to use. As it is common usage that we need to store the exchange persistently, It make sense to provides such kind of API in Camel as

Re: [DISCUSS] Message Store

2012-10-23 Thread Hadrian Zbarcea
Hi Christian, You are correct about the fact that a Message Store is missing (kinda). There are a few components that support a message store implementation of sorts, as you mentioned. You are also correct that it should be a first class citizen. Practically, an endpoint that supports a poll

[DISCUSS] Message Store

2012-10-23 Thread Christian Ohr
Hi everyone, in the past I came several times across situations that required the one or other kind of Message Store. I noticed that in Camel this doesn't seem to be a "first class citizen" in the sense of a primary architectural concept, which can be applied consistently whereever needed. In sho