Re: [DISCUSS] determining our Camel release dates in JIRA in advance

2012-12-02 Thread Christian Müller
> I don't think its a good idea announce a specific day in advanced, > which we wont make anyway. > A concrete date would be too specific. What's about a month? Camel 2.9.5 -> Dez. 2012 Camel 2.10.4 -> Jan. 2013 Camel 2.11.0 -> Jan. 2013 We have some conceivabilities about the next release dates.

Re: [DISCUSS] determining our Camel release dates in JIRA in advance

2012-11-26 Thread Daniel Kulp
On Nov 23, 2012, at 2:16 AM, Claus Ibsen wrote: > On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 10:24 PM, Christian Müller > wrote: > The advantage for me to have a new minor release every 3 - 4 month is: >> - the earlier availability of changes which are not backwards compatible. >> But to be honest, I don't think

Re: [DISCUSS] determining our Camel release dates in JIRA in advance

2012-11-22 Thread Claus Ibsen
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 10:24 PM, Christian Müller wrote: > I suppose we have a silence consensus here to announce the releases in > advance. So far so good... > Not really. I think people expressed that their favored more what we do now. I am not really sure we have consensus. Though I may have

Re: [DISCUSS] determining our Camel release dates in JIRA in advance

2012-11-22 Thread Christian Müller
I suppose we have a silence consensus here to announce the releases in advance. So far so good... The advantage for me to have a new minor release every 3 - 4 month is: - the earlier availability of changes which are not backwards compatible. But to be honest, I don't think we have much of them.

Re: [DISCUSS] determining our Camel release dates in JIRA in advance

2012-11-20 Thread Hadrian Zbarcea
We did not try to release every 3 months after we started to issue patch releases. I agree with Claus that what we have now is a better model, and I prefer it as well. That said, I agree the release cycle should be more predictable and announced in advance. I like for instance the Ubuntu model

Re: [DISCUSS] determining our Camel release dates in JIRA in advance

2012-11-20 Thread Claus Ibsen
Hi I think the current model is fine. If you look at other projects they don't release minor releases more quickly than we do. Having the current scheduled with a patch release every 4-6 weeks is good. Then bug fixes gets into a stable branch in timely manner, and allow people to upgrade easily (

Re: [DISCUSS] determining our Camel release dates in JIRA in advance

2012-11-20 Thread Łukasz Dywicki
I really like the idea of having major releases more often. It makes transition between releases faster and easier, even for users. There was a talk few months ago about git usage in camel (instead of svn) few months ago: http://camel.465427.n5.nabble.com/DISCUSS-force-switching-from-SVN-to-GIT-

[DISCUSS] determining our Camel release dates in JIRA in advance

2012-11-17 Thread Christian Müller
What's your opinion about determining our next Camel release dates in JIRA in advance? I think this could help us to synchronize our planning (from each committer). It will also help us to work more in the RERO (release early - release often) mode because it makes it more difficult to miss a releas