Re: [VOTE] Hide 'issues' tab in the Camel-Extra Google Project site

2012-09-30 Thread Hadrian Zbarcea
Henryk, it's a legal issue and an important one. It is not arbitrary that ASF projects cannot use xGPL. And believe it or not, the vast majority of companies I interacted with do care if it's permissive licenses or like BSD or MIT or ALv2 or something much more restrictive like GPL or other lic

Re: [VOTE] Hide 'issues' tab in the Camel-Extra Google Project site

2012-09-29 Thread Christian Müller
Hello Henryk! Please find my comments inline... Best, Christian On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 10:22 PM, Henryk Konsek wrote: > > I assume that the outcome of the discussion at [1] will be we cannot use > > the Apache mailing list for mail notifications from Apache Extra / Camel > > Extra. > > I'm no

Re: [VOTE] Hide 'issues' tab in the Camel-Extra Google Project site

2012-09-29 Thread Henryk Konsek
> I assume that the outcome of the discussion at [1] will be we cannot use > the Apache mailing list for mail notifications from Apache Extra / Camel > Extra. > I'm not sure what the outcome will be for the documentation, we already > have in the Apache Confluence WIKI for Camel Extra components. M

Re: [VOTE] Hide 'issues' tab in the Camel-Extra Google Project site

2012-09-29 Thread Christian Müller
I assume that the outcome of the discussion at [1] will be we cannot use the Apache mailing list for mail notifications from Apache Extra / Camel Extra. But the discussion is still in progress and I will wait for a final decision (which should be documented somewhere). However, we could also create

Re: [VOTE] Hide 'issues' tab in the Camel-Extra Google Project site

2012-09-26 Thread Hadrian Zbarcea
I fail to follow the reasoning. There are plenty of camel components hosted by other open source projects, various individual github users and even by commercial companies. What does project governance have to do with anything? Bonus question: is your expectation that Apache Camel would be a o

Re: [VOTE] Hide 'issues' tab in the Camel-Extra Google Project site

2012-09-26 Thread Christian Müller
You can follow the discussion here [1]. [1] http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/community-dev/201209.mbox/%3CCALvzYd-h4Q=cteggqcneeninhvose8uigt2gtk22n9cmr_k...@mail.gmail.com%3E Best, Christian On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 1:29 PM, James Carman wrote: > There is some discussion about this, tho

Re: [VOTE] Hide 'issues' tab in the Camel-Extra Google Project site

2012-09-26 Thread James Carman
There is some discussion about this, though. We aren't sure if it's the "hosting" or the "management" of the code that is the sticking point. The hosting is definitely out, but merely using an external source control system and all the other infrastructure/management services here at the ASF migh

Re: [VOTE] Hide 'issues' tab in the Camel-Extra Google Project site

2012-09-26 Thread Willem jiang
+1 if we can unify the wiki and issue for Camel and Camel-Extra. The reason which we setup the Camel-Extra project is we cannot host the code of GPL license in Apache. I don't think we cannot add the document or issues into Apache Camel due to that kind of issue. Any thoughts? On Wednesday, S

Re: [VOTE] Hide 'issues' tab in the Camel-Extra Google Project site

2012-09-26 Thread Henryk Konsek
> - Using Apache JIRA for Camel extra For now, I'll keep Camel Extra issues in Google Issue tracker. We shouldn't have Camel Extra issues spread around two places. However it will be nice if eventually we could use Jira for that. > (- Using Issue notifications on iss...@camel.apache.org for issue

Re: [VOTE] Hide 'issues' tab in the Camel-Extra Google Project site

2012-09-25 Thread Christian Müller
This is what I want to figure out with the people on the right mailing list: - Using Apache JIRA for Camel extra (- Using Issue notifications on iss...@camel.apache.org for issues raised in Camel extra) - Using Commit notifications on comm...@camel.apache.org for changes in Camel extra - Using the

Re: [VOTE] Hide 'issues' tab in the Camel-Extra Google Project site

2012-09-24 Thread Henryk Konsek
> Until this is not settled, I don't > want to change this. MAY BE we cannot use the the official Apache JIRA to > track issues at Apache extra... Ok guys, probably I don't get some nuances of the Apache politics. >From this point of view some issues (like CAMEL-5382[1]) are illegal and should not

Re: [VOTE] Hide 'issues' tab in the Camel-Extra Google Project site

2012-09-24 Thread Hadrian Zbarcea
-1 Yes it would be nice/convenient. However, camel-extra is an external project. AFAIK, the ASF is not providing hosting services for external projects. Hadrian On 09/24/2012 05:12 PM, Henryk Konsek wrote: +1 if we make it simple and easy for our Camel extra users to find the Apache Camel

Re: [VOTE] Hide 'issues' tab in the Camel-Extra Google Project site

2012-09-24 Thread Christian Müller
Hi Henryk! Do you follow the other discussion [1]? Until this is not settled, I don't want to change this. MAY BE we cannot use the the official Apache JIRA to track issues at Apache extra... [1] http://camel.465427.n5.nabble.com/Re-Apache-Extras-notifications-was-Disable-GitHub-commenting-httpd-

Re: [VOTE] Hide 'issues' tab in the Camel-Extra Google Project site

2012-09-24 Thread Henryk Konsek
> +1 if we make it simple and easy for our Camel extra users to find the > Apache Camel JIRA. Anybody else wants to express their opinion? If not, can we assume it is a quiet consensus? -- Henryk Konsek http://henryk-konsek.blogspot.com

Re: [VOTE] Hide 'issues' tab in the Camel-Extra Google Project site

2012-09-15 Thread Christian Müller
I think a [DISCUSS] subject would have been better than a [VOTE], but however... +1 if we make it simple and easy for our Camel extra users to find the Apache Camel JIRA. Best, Christian On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 10:27 PM, Henryk Konsek wrote: > Hi, > > While working on the camel-extra stuff tog

[VOTE] Hide 'issues' tab in the Camel-Extra Google Project site

2012-09-15 Thread Henryk Konsek
Hi, While working on the camel-extra stuff together with Christian, I've risen the proposal of removing the 'Issues' tab [1] from the Camel extra page. Instead of Google Issues tracker, we could put the information on the Camel Extra home page, telling that one should use Camel Jira [2] to report