> Actually, the Maturity Model can be a very nice framework to organize > incubation around.
If you're talking about a platonic MM, then I agree. If you are talking about the MM at https://community.apache.org/apache-way/apache-project-maturity-model.html, I think it needs to be much more carefully written and much more accurate to be a "nice framework". In particular, "aims to capture the invariants of Apache projects ... A mature Apache project complies with all the elements of this model" is wishful thinking or outdated or both.
