Re: Improving our frequency of (patch) releases, and letting committers make releases

2019-10-24 Thread Eric Evans
On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 12:30 AM Mick Semb Wever wrote: > > > > I believe some basic distribution changes would greatly help the entire > > question here, including making release builds easier for other people > > to perform, shortening the cycle times as desired. If there is some > > interest in

Re: Improving our frequency of (patch) releases, and letting committers make releases

2019-10-18 Thread Jon Haddad
I agree with Mick. Those tickets have been open for a while, and I think we're unlikely to resolve them in the next few days. Since we're updating it anyways, I'll put mine in there too. Might as well triple the number of active community members doing releases. On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 1:30 AM M

Re: Improving our frequency of (patch) releases, and letting committers make releases

2019-10-17 Thread Mick Semb Wever
> I believe some basic distribution changes would greatly help the entire > question here, including making release builds easier for other people > to perform, shortening the cycle times as desired. If there is some > interest in building releases, I would like some help solving the > proble

Re: Improving our frequency of (patch) releases, and letting committers make releases

2019-10-17 Thread Michael Shuler
Oh! As an added bonus of migrating to proper bintray package repository types, we also cure the pain of users attempting to install older versions than the latest release, since all versions in the suite are installable. -- Michael On 10/17/19 9:47 AM, Michael Shuler wrote: Noted: https://is

Re: Improving our frequency of (patch) releases, and letting committers make releases

2019-10-17 Thread Michael Shuler
Noted: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-14963 Fundamental current docker build flaws: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-14962 Distribution changes suggested for deb/rpm: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-14966 https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSA

Re: Improving our frequency of (patch) releases, and letting committers make releases

2019-10-17 Thread Joshua McKenzie
Might make sense to split the difference and have a loose reactive policy of "consider / discuss a potential release when any of the following are hit": 1. something critical is merged (data loss fix, cluster down fix, etc) 2. there are changes to the branch 3. it's been weeks since the

Re: Improving our frequency of (patch) releases, and letting committers make releases

2019-10-17 Thread Jon Haddad
Mick's absolutely right. Even if we had been doing more frequent releases, it's a big risk for us to only have one person able to it in the first place. I also agree with Benedict. I don't think we need to be crazy strict about windows. As long as we tell folks they may need to import keys, I th

Re: Improving our frequency of (patch) releases, and letting committers make releases

2019-10-17 Thread Benedict Elliott Smith
+1 We need to do something about this, and I don't mind what. It would be better if we cut fix releases immediately after a critical fix lands, much as we used to. We've got fairly lazy about producing releases, perhaps because many of the full-time contributors now work for organisations tha

Improving our frequency of (patch) releases, and letting committers make releases

2019-10-16 Thread Mick Semb Wever
> We're still in the position where only four people in the project: > Michael, Sylvain, Jake, and Eric; can cut, stage, and propose a > release. Our current patch release frequency is lacking. It's been 8 months since 3.11.4. This is having an impact on users and their faith in the technolo