I was surprised by the difference in memory too, but this is a small diff
(apart from the newly generated readPropertyDirectly/writePropertyDirectly
methods) so there isn't anything else going on.  My unverified assumption
of HashMap is that is doubles in size each time it resizes, so entities
with more fields could cause more waste. For example a entity with 65
fields would have 63 empty array slots (ignoring fill factor).  So the
exact savings may vary.

On Sat, Jun 17, 2017 at 1:01 AM Robert Zeigler <robert.zeig...@roxanemy.com>
wrote:

> I’m also a little surprised at the 1/2-ing… what were the values being
> stored? I suppose in theory, many values are relatively “small”,
> memory-wise, so having the overhead of also storing the key could ~double
> the memory use, but if you’re storing large values, I wouldn’t expect the
> utilization to drop as dramatically. What were your data values (type and
> length distribution for strings)?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Robert
>
> > On Jun 10, 2017, at 6:49 AM, Michael Gentry <blackn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi John,
> >
> > I'm a little surprised that map-based storage is over 2x worse in memory
> > consumption.  I'm wondering if there is more going on here than storage
> of
> > the property values.  Would it be simple enough to adapt your test case
> to
> > compare a list of POJOs vs a list of maps and see what the memory
> footprint
> > and difference is that way?
> >
> > I personally was thinking the big improvement for using fields directly
> is
> > the speed improvement.  I didn't think the memory consumption difference
> > would be that dramatic.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > mrg
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 10:55 AM, John Huss <johnth...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I did some experimenting recently to see if changes to the way data in
> >> stored in Cayenne objects could reduce the amount of memory they
> consume.
> >>
> >> I chose to use separate fields for each property instead of a HashMap
> >> (which is what CayenneDataObject uses).  The results were very
> affirming.
> >> For my test of loading 10,000 objects from every table in my database I
> got
> >> it to use about about *half the memory* of the default class (from 921
> MB
> >> down to 431 MB).
> >>
> >> I know there has been some discussion already about addressing this
> topic
> >> for the next major release, so I thought I'd throw in some observations
> /
> >> questions here.
> >>
> >> For my implementation I subclassed CayenneDataObject because in previous
> >> experience I found implementing a replacement to be much more difficult
> and
> >> subject to more bugs due to the less frequently used code path that
> >> PersistentObject and it's descriptors take you down.  My apps rely on
> >> things that are sort of specific to CayenneDataObject like Validating.
> >>
> >> So one question is how we should be addressing the need that people may
> >> have to create their own data classes. Right now I believe the
> recommended
> >> path is to subclass PersistentObject, but I'm not convinced that that
> is a
> >> viable solution without wholesale copying most of CayenneDataObject into
> >> your subclass.  I'd rather see a fuller base class (in addition to
> keeping
> >> PersistentObject around) that includes all of CayenneDataObject except
> the
> >> property storage (HashMap).
> >>
> >> For my implementation I had to modify CayenneDataObject, but only
> slightly
> >> to avoid creating the HashMap which I wasn't using. However, because
> class
> >> isn't really intended for customization this map is referenced in
> multiple
> >> methods that can't easily be overridden to change the way things are
> >> stored.
> >>
> >> Another approach might be to ask why anyone should need to customize the
> >> way data is stored in the objects if we can just use the best solution
> >> possible in the first place?  I can't imagine a more efficient
> >> representation that fields.  However, fields present difficulties for
> the
> >> use case where you aren't generating unique classes for your model but
> just
> >> rely on the generic class.  In theory this could be addressed via
> runtime
> >> code generation or something else, but that would be quite a change.
> >>
> >> So I'm looking forward to discussing this and toward the future.
> >>
> >> John
> >>
>
>

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